Benzos Etizolam

[Morpheus19]

Without tolerance, 0,5mg Etizolam + 1 beer felt very nice. Not euphoric as hell, but okay for hanging out with friends.

 

[oSpherical]

I've been experimenting with Etizolam a bit more, as I didn't want to give up on it despite initial bad impressions.
I ordered some Intas Etilaam tablets in bulk to test them again, as I've been wanting something for anxiety for years but my doctor has always refused to give me anything besides anti-depressants. From what I've heard, Etizolam should be ideal as an anxiolytic, and according to many people, quite decent for relaxing recreational use.
Just as a note, etizolam is the first benzo type drug I've ever taken besides phenibut
I've tried it in several varying doses, including sublingual - and I find that I get incredibly mixed results.

In doses of 1mg, I don't feel any effects whatsoever, except a slight initial tingling sensation which lasts for a few seconds - which is probably when it enters the blood stream.
With 2mg, I either feel nothing or become a little staggery and lose some coordination, but still feel no psychoactive effects, and don't notice a decrease in anxiety.

3mg also gives no psychoactive effects, but increases the lack of coordination. There have been times when I've felt compelled to lie in bed after one of these doses. Interestingly enough, when lying in bed with my eyes closed I occasionally get something which I would compare to seratonin brain zaps, but not uncomfortable at all. Quite relaxing, in fact, Usually I fall asleep and wake up several hours later.
The other night I had some 6-apb. Once I wanted to get to sleep, I took 7mg believing it would counteract the stimulation, unfortunately it did nothing besides make me stagger around and feel drunk. I was hoping these would help act as a trip killer, but they seem too mild for that, and didn't even help relax my muscles or ease my jaw clenching. All it did was make me stagger around while still feeling overly stimulated. (This was long after the 6apb trip was over)

Overall, I do like having these around, whilst they offer nothing recreational to me, and lack anxiolytic effects, I still find them to be excellent sleeping pills.
One issue I do have is that very slight amnesia does appear to become present from daily use. The previous days seem like a hazy memory - which I find very odd considering the mildness of the effects.

However, I find that Phenibut was far superior. It was an amazing anxiolytic drug, it could be amazingly recreational too. Phenibut is definitely one of the most potent drugs I've ever taken, and was hoping that benzos would be similar, but a lot cleaner without the insane tolerance building.

Nonetheless, Etizolam is okay - just very boring, imo.
I'm envious of all the people in this thread speaking of euphoria and warm blanket feelings on such small doses.

Also, just a quick question. I've seen it mentioned that sublingual is a good way to take this, and I've tried and didn't notice much different. My question is; would insufflation work at all or wouldn't it be possible for your nasal membranes to absorb the chemical?
I know there's a lot of scorn for even considering insufflating things like this, but if it is possible, would it be more potent, and thus allow me to save more pills?
I've always found the fact that so many pills are useless unless taken on an empty stomach, so any way of bypassing that would make help me a lot.

 

[knock]

I believe (from other posts in this thread) that the fact that it's not water soluble makes it not so good for nasal dosing, as absorption by the mucous membranes in nose requires it to dissolve first.

I suppose that should mean that sublingual isn't that good either! Can't answer that, but I haven't bothered holding it under my tongue the last few times I've used it, I've just rinsed crushed pills down with water, and it's done the job (getting to sleep, I don't find this recreational at all either).

 

[Pegasus]

^Both work, sublingual is a damn good route for benzos too.

 

[knock]

I stand corrected.

 

[Albion]

I received 10mg of Etizolam yesterday. Popped one pill, felt a bit wobbly (not unlike a low dose of MXE). Popped two more and had a very nice nap. Had another two before bed and slept like a baby. I haven't been getting much sleep lately, and I think I've just found a remedy


The high itself is very relaxing and carefree. Does make me feel rather lazy though. Developed a bizarre case of hiccups btw.

 

[Transcendence]

Phenibut is a decent sedative, but once you use it for a while you'll notice a nasty rebound anxiety the next day. Tolerance builds extremely quickly so you can't just redose again. That's why I wouldn't recommend it for treating anxiety. Nice to have on hand for emergencies though, it helped me through the akathesia of sub withdrawels.

 

[Lewis_Tollani]

Itraconazole and fluvoxamine slow down the rate of elimination of etizolam leading to accumulation of etizolam and thus increased pharmacological effects.

Has anyone tried this? I will probably go buy me some Itraconazole and check that out tomorrow. But I would still like to hear if some of you have any experiences.

 

[Mugz]

Has anyone switched from a traditional benzo to etizolam for daily anxiety management? I am almost out of diazepam and was slightly concerned that since etizolam is a Thienobenzodiazepine rather than a traditional benzodiazepine then there might be some withdrawals from the diazepam even while switching to etizolam.

 

[Lewis_Tollani]

Has anyone tried this? I will probably go buy me some Itraconazole and check that out tomorrow. But I would still like to hear if some of you have any experiences.

So I did test this, ate a decent amount of Itraconazole. First of all it felt very wrong to eat anti fungal medication to boost drugs. But I can't refuse to at least give it try or two.

As a whole the whole experiment must be seen as a disappointment. Maybe and just maybe it prolonged the high for some time, but I'm not sure about this at all. If I feel up to it in the future I will probably try it again some time in larger doses.


On an another note: Do anyone else find that blackouts are far less uncommon with Etizolam then with other benzos. I don't know if I ever have lost periods longer then maybe twenty minutes with Etizolam unlike, with alprazolam or diazepam to name a few, where whole nights can disappear. This is for me a huge advantage.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Took 2mg of etizolam with 1.5-2.5g gabapentin, about two coffee liquor drinks, and an incredible hit from a bubbler bong that caused a hysterical coughing fit in me. I am on 1.5-2.0mg buprenorphine daily as well.

I saw closed eye visuals of tiger-like creatures, just their faces with flashing, warping outlines. And felt incredible.

I took the etizolam first and thought 2mg compared to about 1mg xanax - I found it fairly weak alone for the first hour and a half. My experience with it was mild at first.

 

[ashiba]

when lying in bed with my eyes closed I occasionally get something which I would compare to seratonin brain zaps, but not uncomfortable at all. Quite relaxing, in fact, Usually I fall asleep and wake up several hours later.

I experienced the exact same thing actually. No bed feelings or weird feelings in the brain. Just kind of light-zaps, changing patterns. Not like mushroom-induced CEV's but still no bad feeling.

 

[ashiba]

I received 10mg of Etizolam yesterday. Popped one pill, felt a bit wobbly (not unlike a low dose of MXE). Popped two more and had a very nice nap. Had another two before bed and slept like a baby. I haven't been getting much sleep lately, and I think I've just found a remedy


The high itself is very relaxing and carefree. Does make me feel rather lazy though. Developed a bizarre case of hiccups btw.

I also found Etizolam to be a GREAT sleeping-aid. The only other pill that leaves me with uninterupted sleep and well rested when I wake up is Temazepam.

The hickup-thing really make s me giggle, my friends thought it was hillarious

 

[gameace12]

I'm getting 10mg of Etizolam strips either today or tomorrow, I'll post back what I think of it. Keep in mind my thoughts may be invalid I can literally take 15mg of Xanax and it will have no effect on me. ( I don't mean it as in trying to measure my dick, I mean it as in I'm being serious so you need to keep that in mind if I say it's horrible )

 

[lurching]

imo, a pleasant, but mild benzo. it lacks the punch of say, alprazolam, and isn't sedating for a long time like clonazepam. the effect is however quite enjoyable, and the relative lack of muscle relaxation means that it leaves you not-too-impaired. but when i look at the current market price of these blue tablets, i think i'd rather go for bromazepam, which feels very similar to me (i'd equal 10mg etizolam to 3mg bromazepam, or maybe 5mg diazepam).

 

[sonic]

Has anyone switched from a traditional benzo to etizolam for daily anxiety management? I am almost out of diazepam and was slightly concerned that since etizolam is a Thienobenzodiazepine rather than a traditional benzodiazepine then there might be some withdrawals from the diazepam even while switching to etizolam.

Yeah, I did this switching from clonazepam to etizolam and the switch was totally painless. There was no withdrawal at all. I haven't made the switch directly from diazepam, but I'm sure you'll be fine if you have enough etizolam to work with.

 

[Pegasus]

I agree that it is similar enough to substitute partially for many benzos. Obviously don't switch all at once if you're dependent on a certain benzo, but a gradual transition should not be too difficult for most.

 

[tm1210mk4]

I found the Intal (spelling) shite, But there seems to be alot on the rc sites now.

 

[jancrow]

Mysterious that a lot of people don't find this works for them, it certainly gets to me. I had +-2.25mg over about six hours last night with three beers and about 1/32 of hash (ie not much) and I remember it completely buggering my memory, especially with regard to how many I'd taken- had to keep going to the box and counting the popped blisters.

Coordination was spectacularly off- I had to crawl upstairs at one point because I was worried I wouldn't be able to do them standing up. And I've no idea what I was doing later in the evening. I dimly remember an eating binge. Loading up a computer game I was playing I find my character in a location I don't recognise at all with loads of extra items, weapons etc which again I have no recollection of getting. And apparently I was awake til at least 1 am when I thought I'd gone to bed at 11.

From what I remember of the buzz it was quite euphoric around the midway mark, lots of pleasant physical sensations and a cheerful mood. And I looked extremely fucked in the mirror. Groggy this morning, trying to counteract that with strong coffee.

 

[oSpherical]

Even though these don't impress me that much, I love how cheap the Intas generic are [edited out price]. They're excellent value for money and can take the edge off stress or assist with sleeping. I was using melatonin before for sleep, but I find 2 etizolams do a much better job.