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Etizolam ran out fuck guys :(

why the fuck has etiz dissapperead off all the uk vendors? i'm pissed off, it was easily the best rc benzo.

can't be doing with shitty diclaz or flubro's never ending half-life.
 
itsonlyme123 said:
I'd agree with solipsis. Ask your GP to refer you to a drug treatment service and get on a proper script. Or you can self refer if you know where go but you're gp will still be informed of any meds you are prescribed.
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thanks both for the suggestions, as diclaz is a 'traditional' benzo i think it should show positive for benzos iif they test me. Last time i went to that clinic they denied me bupe, and the Drs will probably be extremely reluctant to prescribe benzos. It would be great to have proper med grade diaz though, plus having a legit prescription would mean that i could finally travel overseas again. Only problem is that they might be in control of the doses and the taper rather than me, in terms of setting the dose and timing of the reductions, where obviously if you have your own supply you go at your own pace. Still, no harm in trying eh.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
thanks both for the suggestions, as diclaz is a 'traditional' benzo i think it should show positive for benzos iif they test me. Last time i went to that clinic they denied me bupe, and the Drs will probably be extremely reluctant to prescribe benzos. It would be gret to have proper med grade diaz though, only problem is that they would probably be in control of the taper rather than me, in terms of setting the dose and timing of the reductions, where obviously if you have your own supply you go at your own pace. Still, no harm in trying eh.
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Are you in the uk? Fuck your GP right in the ear! Get to a drug treatment service. Once/if you get a script you are in charge ultimately, they can't force you off benzos they have prescribed, that would be against your human rights:) I'm sure you can blag a script ?
 
itsonlyme123 said:
they can't force you off benzos they have prescribed, that would be against your human rights:) I'm sure you can blag a script ?
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If you read his posts, the intention is to get off the benzos entirely, not to 'blag a script'.

I agree that a supervised taper is by far the best option for most people, but given MDB's history and tendency toward polydrug abuse, I'd say the gains he made from unwittingly lowering his etizolam dose (both psychological and in terms of recovery from addiction) far outweigh any potential benefits from pursuing a supervised script, which is an avenue he's unsuccessfully attempted once.
 
Sammy G said:
If you read his posts, the intention is to get off the benzos entirely, not to 'blag a script'.

I agree that a supervised taper is by far the best option for most people, but given MDB's history and tendency toward polydrug abuse, I'd say the gains he made from unwittingly lowering his etizolam dose (both psychological and in terms of recovery from addiction) far outweigh any potential benefits from pursuing a supervised script, which is an avenue he's unsuccessfully attempted once.
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I know the intention is to get off them ultimately, I also know it can be a pain to get a script for diazepam hence using the term blag.
 
yea keep going the way you're going mdb, that's an awesome turn of events.. and u didn't even break a sweat worrying..
if you keep this up id say you will be off them for summer
 
Sammy G said:
Sorry - I might have misread your post as encouraging MDB to wrangle a long-term benzo script.
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No, I wouldn't encourage any form of addiction. "Blagging" a script is more desirable than going through abrupt withdrawal symptoms?
 
MDB can do it i know he can, just remember most Addiction is just fear, when you do finally quit ask yourself this

If i take away the fear, how am i feeling?

For me it was just feeling alive in the increased brain activity way, but nothing like the first time where it sent me nuts. Second time i felt like i was on a mental stimulate it wasn't bad at all, i went to work coming off a 2mg dose diaz no problem. Walk in the park for me. luckily
 
itsonlyme123 said:
No, I wouldn't encourage any form of addiction. "Blagging" a script is more desirable than going through abrupt withdrawal symptoms?
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If that were MDB's predicament, then sure. It isn't though. He has more than enough supplies to ensure that abrupt withdrawal would be a very remote possibility.

Dark Side said:
MDB can do it i know he can, just remember most Addiction is just fear, when you do finally quit ask yourself this

If i take away the fear, how am i feeling?
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Wise words.
 
It's still available *snip* And fairly cheaply as well. Don't see what you're all moaning about.

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Shambles said:
Perhaps unsurprisingly, massive screencaps of vendor sites does indeed come under the no sources rule. Do please apply a modicum of thought before posting.
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This also proves that not all mods are robots, if they're able to detect sourcery in pictures as well as text...
 
Explain how when the vendor site isn't named or shown in any way..?
 
So can i not jus dissolve it in water then? It not soluble it water? I need to get off it quick slept 29 hours forced most of it jus woke up hour or two ago , so go get tgis stuff and mix it ok :-( god im feeling ok but for how long fuck knows :-(
 
Morning Bare..:)

I can't answer that question but there must be a thread or some info somewhere. MDB would know. I don't understand why you are using the powder if you are not happy or confident to 'safely' do so. There are plenty of UK vendors still selling pellets..they are really really easy to find online.It does now seem that the intas of etilaam and etizest are not being sold as they were before, which is bad news as I had more trust in their dosing. Not just because they came in blister packs and looked more..well more..I have had pellets over the last year from about 10 different vendors and some have been like pale blue chalk and half smashed up when they arrive varying to the really hard coated almost turquoise ones. I mistrust them as one night I took a quantity I would have been fine with with the intas and got a VERY different outcome almost like they were triple strength so I personally am wary of the dosing of some.

I haven't fully caught up with this thread so apologies if I am repeating stuff others have said recently (I am pretty fucked right now) but there was good advice I seem to remember earlier about tapering..The Ashton method or the really sensible route of going to see your Gp and get scripted Valium and start tapering.

Right now the best albeit probably shit advice I can give is to just go and lay still...put on some calming music and try and relax..even if you don't sleep 'sleep' it is better than nothing and getting stressed out.

Wish you well Bare <3
 
Why not just stop full stop instead of tapering? Just drawing out the inevitable.
 
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