Ethylphenidate Discussion Thread

[clubberdude]

I've tried this and doesn't seem to agree with me at all. Just seems to overstimulate my brain, but not in a good way. Very anxiogenic, almost makes me worry about the possibility of a seizure. This is a low doses. Won't be using again, doesn't feel safe at all.

 

[Christ!]

I've tried this and doesn't seem to agree with me at all. Just seems to overstimulate my brain, but not in a good way. Very anxiogenic, almost makes me worry about the possibility of a seizure. This is a low doses. Won't be using again, doesn't feel safe at all.

That's no good How much did you take roughly?

Are you on any meds like effexor? Combine it with anything?

Might not have been ethylphenidate.

 

[drug_mentor]

In my opinion this is more like coke than meth but really it isn't that much like either. The comparison to cocaine over meth is mainly due to the fact that for me cocaine is as mentally stimulating as amphetamines but not quite so much physically, in this regard ethylphenidate felt more like cocaine to me but that is not to say that it feels particularly like coke. Methylphenidate is closer to cocaine that this stuff is in my experience. It took a weirdly long time to fully come down (dunno if I just swallowed too much drip) for what I was expecting and I have to admit towards the end when I was feeling more brain drain than stimulation it wasn't the most pleasant. However a few meds and I slept like a baby, after 10 hours I woke up feeling fairly normal, perhaps a little sluggish.

 

[Hajime]

as I was saying, the difference between meth and coke is only really noticeable at small to medium doses(once again, ignoring length of effect)... the research seems to indicate that ethylphenidate should have decent eurphoria @ ~1/4 the mg of Methylphenidate and ime, ritalin is very smooth at an instant release of 40mg.

I wonder if ethanol burns 4x better than methanol? anyone feel like checking? (Edit: It would be a multiple of 4, bet $50aud)

 

[clubberdude]

That's no good How much did you take roughly?

Are you on any meds like effexor? Combine it with anything?

Might not have been ethylphenidate.

No it was pretty terrifying actually. I took about 80mg orally. I get a slight euphoric feeling for about 30 minutes, then this sense of doom, almost felt like my brain was very overstimulated (tested heart rate, was around mid 80's, so relatively low given the use of a stimulant), but felt like a storm. I then went on to feel like I could have had a seizure at any point for the next 4 or so hours, all the while anxiety was building. This subsided after about 5 hours of dosing, but had to walk slowly as I had a heart palpation (I'm in good health - so this should never happen), but otherwise no other cardiovascular issues were noted. However, after the initial 30 minutes of slight euphoria, my mood progressively decreased through to dysphoria, then depression after a few hours and stayed low for around 8-12 hours (it got so bad that I was thinking of taking my SSRI again (I'm coming off these, see below) - and would have done if I didn't think it could have lead to a potentially dodgy reaction). The mood has improved greatly since fortunately. Effects lasted over 12 hours - was still feeling overstimulated at 3 am this morning! (Took the EPH at around 1 pm).

I was taking an SSRI, which was Sertraline (Zoloft/Lustral), at 50 mg every 3 or so days, but stopped taking it about a month ago.

The idea that it wasn't Ethylphenidate did cross my mind, but got it from a reasonably reliable vendor, and the effects seem consistent-ish with some others experiences (though the negatives GREATLY outweighed the positives in my case). I couldn't find much dose data save for the fact it is 1/4 as potent as Methylphenidate (so would have been equivalent to 20mg or so of MPH, and most trip reports relate to doses in the 100-200mg range), but may have overdosed.

That said, I really don't like Coke much (low and comedown far greater than the high), which works in a similar way apparently, so maybe my brain doesn't like those kinds of stimulants (have no issue with Amphetamine or MPA). All I will say is that this stuff felt way more dangerous than Coke. Be careful with this stuff.

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Sorry to hear you didn't have a good experience, clubberdude. I haven't found ethyl to produce anxiety so far, for some reason even when I was suffering from bad anxiety issues though stimulants didn't seem to make it worse in fact often they had the opposite effect. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks though.

I've always thought the LD50 rates of amphetamines were kind of tricky to figure out, the amounts I see mentioned on a mg/per kg basis always seem kind of astronomical. I'm not sure if he'll be able to find a reference although I remember reading something like "fatal doses for children 200mg fatal dose for adults 1g" - but I can't remember what route of admin. that was and I don't think it was from a reliable source.

There is some info out there but not a lot; here is an excerpt from the text 'Medical Pharmacology':

Toxic Dose

The adult therapeutic dose of methamphetamine is 2.5 to 5.0 mg orally. The toxic dose varies widely. A dose as low as 1.3 mg/kg has been fatal (34).

 

[Sameria]

Just a reminder guys, this is the EP thread, not the Methamp. thread

 

[drug_mentor]

I had this stuff again last night with a couple friends. Didn't seem to work as well as the first time around, used about 2 points between the three of us snorted in one go and didn't feel very much in the way of euphoria. We were all stimulated for a good few hours though. For some reason this stuff seems to make me (and my two mates) pee a lot and also for the first hour or two it seems to make me cough a lot easier when smoking weed.

 

[footscrazy]

I've just tried this. Unfortunately it does seem to be slightly numbing, which seems like a bad sign. Not heaps, just a slight numb feeling in my throat when I swallow.

At this early stage I'm not sure of my verdict on it. It seems like a superficial version of meth which has all the same effects, but lacks the satisfaction, or something. Headdy my inner crackhead was def going nuts as I was racking this shit up, lots of anticipation, but I don't think it's something that could satisfy any icy craving. I'm not feeling like it hits the same spot, anyway.

For me it's had quite noticeable physical effects, cold stimmy sweats, pounding heart, shakey etc, but it might just be because I haven't done any stims for so long now. Also, I've always been quite susceptible to anxious type physical effects like that, I don't mind them though.

 

[bluelighttt]

Yeah footzy I got the same physical feelings the first few times i had abit too much but ive since found a happy medium.

As for why it doesnt hit the spot I would hypothesize its due to ethylphenidate being a reuptake inhibitor so it will takes longer to reach peak effects -- opposed to amphetamines which you are used to that provide an instant hit? But I am no chemist.

Anyway I enjoy that I generally have a healthy appetite on it as opposed to other stims

 

[footscrazy]

As for why it doesnt hit the spot I would hypothesize its due to ethylphenidate being a reuptake inhibitor so it will takes longer to reach peak effects -- opposed to amphetamines which you are used to that provide an instant hit?

Yeah, that's what I would think. Plus I'm snorting the ethylphenidate whereas I always used to puff ice, so there's a difference too.

I wasn't sure if the physical effects came from doing too much or too little! I just remember on ice if I didn't do enough, I'd feel anxious and uneasy, sort of like this.

Someone needs to come up with a slang name for this stuff. I'm sick of writing ethylphenidate and I'm sure we can think of something more sparky than EP

 

[bluelighttt]

Something funny so that it sounds ridiculous when the media get onto it and start talking about it.
Id like to hear a news reporter say "Man found snorting new drug: 'Cat-shit' "

 

[footscrazy]

It would be a real achievement to come up with a name here then see it being used in the media %)

I can't think of a thing now I'm on the spot though.

 

[Halif]

LOL 'cat-shit' :D

 

[footscrazy]

I'm not sure about this drug. My night on it is coming to an end and I can't say I had a good experience. To me, it lacked euphoria and instead put me in a pretty introverted, negative mindstate (with the hyper focus of a stim - hyper focused on every dumb thing I've said or done recently 8() like being scattered I guess, but worse, because I actually like being scattered on meth.

Most of all though I'm concerned about the physical effects it's having on me. I'm really sore, especially my lower back, legs and down my sides. I guess this drug is a vasoconstrictor and the pain feels like it might be related to circulation, but I've never had this problem on any other stim before. I'm actually a bit worried because the pain is quite intense, I was almost at the point of leaving work before, but I know I wouldn't get paid if I did I just hope when I wake up my legs haven't fallen off...

 

[headdah]

. Headdy my inner crackhead was def going nuts as I was racking this shit up, lots of anticipation, but I don't think it's something that could satisfy any icy craving. I'm not feeling like it hits the same spot, anyway.

Footsy, U spelled my name wrong, I'll forgive u this time. This time only

Judging by your review of this substance, I dont think I'll bother with this substance at all. Mad side effects and no positive. If i wanted that, I can just score my from local peers and get some shitty quality meth/oil/base etc etc etc

Yet, another dissapointing RC.

When will they release one that is decent, I.E. beats the efffects of the ol' top 4 (mdma,lsd,meth,cocaine)
(without nasty Side effects too)

 

[bluelighttt]

I decided to have 40 mgs thismorning on the way to the gym with half my usual pre-workout supplement (I only had 2 hours sleep, before having to meet some mates at the Gym for a huge shoulder day and may have still be stoned from the night before)
Wasn't my worst idea, Once in there I had huge focus and pushed massive weight the only problem noticed was that I sweated like crazy

 

[headdah]

I decided to have 40 mgs thismorning on the way to the gym with half my usual pre-workout supplement (I only had 2 hours sleep, before having to meet some mates at the Gym for a huge shoulder day and may have still be stoned from the night before)
Wasn't my worst idea, Once in there I had huge focus and pushed massive weight the only problem noticed was that I sweated like crazy

dude, becareful yo. mixing stims and then go on a mad workout, u are putting wayyyy too much stress into your heart. in Harm Reduction point of view, I would highly suggest that You should never do it again. but who am i to judge, I'm not the boss of you. But I would just like to let you know, this is very dangerous and can cause permenent damages. so please be careful!!!

 

[bluelighttt]

dude, becareful yo. mixing stims and then go on a mad workout, u are putting wayyyy too much stress into your heart. in Harm Reduction point of view, I would highly suggest that You should never do it again. but who am i to judge, I'm not the boss of you. But I would just like to let you know, this is very dangerous and can cause permenent damages. so please be careful!!!

You were right. this pre contains mainly 1,3 dimethyl and i have a fair tolerance to it and ethyl, but i felt way over the top. My heart was the worst: It was racing and I was flushed which are normal weight training but annoyingly it was taking ages for my bpms to drop after exertion. It took hours and lots of food and water to feel right again but i am still sweating hours afterwards. Great separately but dont mix, seems clear now but ya know

 

[mister]

I noticed AyahuascaSeeker13? post about a certain Aussie website got deleted, I think we have a right to know so Ill post a brief description without naming names.
According to the sites owner 2 employees got arrested either today or yesterday in their distribution warehouse for distributing a possibly illegal drug, one of the drugs they sell is Ethylphenidate. Apparently the details of customers such as CC details, names and addresses are held on a server thats not in Australia so anyone who has ordered from them SHOULD be safe. The owner seems to be a genuinely nice guy and his products are legal within Australia (this im not sure about). Either way I think ADD has a right to know whats happened.

I hope the owner, his family and employees get through this ok, and I hope theres no repercussions for any of us.

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