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Come on guys only buy products sold by their chemical name, let's not fall for this marketing strategies, it's not safe.
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zamzams
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Ok I Started at 20:00pm with a mate
T+00 had 80mg cap each
T+30 feeling a mild speedy effect & raised heartbeat, feeling very chatty.
T+1h snort two 5mg lines, no euphoria, heart beat raised a little now mine is 110bpm
note: we decided to record the rythym of our hearts using a webcam mic and a soup cup used as a parabolic chamber (i.e putting the cam in the cup) and pressing the cup to our chests) to listen for irregulars or palpitations.
everything was normal except now we have performed 2 guys 1 cup.
Sense of humour is still very much intact, similar for me to when i'm on MDMA, we are finding things funny, my mate is often very short-tempered and this substance has elevated his mood somewhat, yet body is very relaxed with no muscles tensing.
Extremely enhanced concentration on performing tasks we are not getting distracted like experienced with MDMA.
T+1h 30
mild body tingles and rushes continue (no pins and needles though) and some mild euphoria, sometimes it feels speedy others quite relaxed, very much like the feeling i get with acid but without any psychedelic effects.
We both have warm clammy hands and tachycardia, no cold extremeties though, feet are very warm almost the opposite of meph effects.
T+1h 45 both taken another 80mg cap each.
T+ 2h 30 Mood is good now no major effect felt from last redose effects seem to be waning, thoughts are still very clear, not spaced out, but can feel trancey at times.
Definitely feels purely seritonergic with a speedy body load, no gurning or noticable pupil dilation, both of us are hot/flush (could be due to the scorching weather) mate started working on a spreadsheet for work and is now saying he wants to do a much larger dose
Will report back in a bit my mate is just signing up his username is Phan7.
Also Shambles, if Jezebella took an SSRI with this and ended up in a bad way physically, could this drug have MAOI properties do you think?
T+00 had 80mg cap each
T+30 feeling a mild speedy effect & raised heartbeat, feeling very chatty.
T+1h snort two 5mg lines, no euphoria, heart beat raised a little now mine is 110bpm
note: we decided to record the rythym of our hearts using a webcam mic and a soup cup used as a parabolic chamber (i.e putting the cam in the cup) and pressing the cup to our chests) to listen for irregulars or palpitations.
everything was normal except now we have performed 2 guys 1 cup.
Sense of humour is still very much intact, similar for me to when i'm on MDMA, we are finding things funny, my mate is often very short-tempered and this substance has elevated his mood somewhat, yet body is very relaxed with no muscles tensing.
Extremely enhanced concentration on performing tasks we are not getting distracted like experienced with MDMA.
T+1h 30
mild body tingles and rushes continue (no pins and needles though) and some mild euphoria, sometimes it feels speedy others quite relaxed, very much like the feeling i get with acid but without any psychedelic effects.
We both have warm clammy hands and tachycardia, no cold extremeties though, feet are very warm almost the opposite of meph effects.
T+1h 45 both taken another 80mg cap each.
T+ 2h 30 Mood is good now no major effect felt from last redose effects seem to be waning, thoughts are still very clear, not spaced out, but can feel trancey at times.
Definitely feels purely seritonergic with a speedy body load, no gurning or noticable pupil dilation, both of us are hot/flush (could be due to the scorching weather) mate started working on a spreadsheet for work and is now saying he wants to do a much larger dose
Will report back in a bit my mate is just signing up his username is Phan7.
Also Shambles, if Jezebella took an SSRI with this and ended up in a bad way physically, could this drug have MAOI properties do you think?
zamzams
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Whilst i totally agree with this, i was sucked in like a lot of people by the hype. The reason given for keeping the chemical name a secret was apparently due to the fact that one particular manufacturer - we shall call him Eric apparantly wanted to stop other people from manufacturing it and stealing his business.
I have no idea if the above statement is true or a load of bull but it seems to be only valid reason for keeping this a secret. Obviously if it is for other reasons though. i.e this chem is a phenylethalamine or a BK then that would also make sense.
I would be interested to find out how someone could find out what this stuff is. Or best place to take it for analysis - maybe a university professor?
*rings Walter White
that is the packaging-and-sticker combo that gave NHSdirect worse anxiety than i had. i'm morbidly fascinated, but try not to turn blue.
also Alcyone (i can't do this linking stuff for shit) yeah i wasn't having a go it's just one of those things that can go a bit wrong sometimes (admittedly less than when weird dealers thinks girls and drugs is a joke - for the record, this man also tried to pimp out my friend and robbed me of a good hour being stuck in a pub with his boss telling me he was worried about him, i realise i have problems in the people department) but i know i got a bit weird and defiant about the whole prozac thing, which never caused any problems but was a fairly ridiculous attitude, in that if i had ended up in A&E it would effectively have been through trying to double-dare the pharmaceutical industry and general amorphous world at large, except they are not actually a real person you can play chicken with.
in the unfortunate event of other people being as ridiculous, i post my ramblings on the internet, because someone somewhere might be like, "oh yeah that's a totally logical way to look at things, but now i don't need to try that because a fellow genius said it's a bit rubbish".
i dunno. i reckon we're probably all a bit dodgy for joining groups like this (respect to anyone who can do it for purely spiritual-type reasons, but they're probably about 72 reincarnations ahead of most people) but knowing your inner idiot and negotiating with it ironically seems to be the best solution a lot of the time. a watched pot never boils and all that, though this is clearly a problematic available-on-magnets-and-keyrings kind of phrase to take any further with internet drug people.
EDIT: re the actual drugs thing, luckier people seem to have what i got with meph, and the remaining stuff makes me like all the mephorror stories of yore. hence, er, let's all cross our fingers. it doesn't feel fair to be allergic to the ban though, clemaggedon should have thought of that before the door-step photo-shoot. (PS: does anyone else kind of wish the whole coalition -nearly wrote "demolition", freud made some good points- meant the cleggs had a basement flat and half the garden or something? or maybe NHSdirect were right about my impending doom).
also Alcyone (i can't do this linking stuff for shit) yeah i wasn't having a go it's just one of those things that can go a bit wrong sometimes (admittedly less than when weird dealers thinks girls and drugs is a joke - for the record, this man also tried to pimp out my friend and robbed me of a good hour being stuck in a pub with his boss telling me he was worried about him, i realise i have problems in the people department) but i know i got a bit weird and defiant about the whole prozac thing, which never caused any problems but was a fairly ridiculous attitude, in that if i had ended up in A&E it would effectively have been through trying to double-dare the pharmaceutical industry and general amorphous world at large, except they are not actually a real person you can play chicken with.
in the unfortunate event of other people being as ridiculous, i post my ramblings on the internet, because someone somewhere might be like, "oh yeah that's a totally logical way to look at things, but now i don't need to try that because a fellow genius said it's a bit rubbish".
i dunno. i reckon we're probably all a bit dodgy for joining groups like this (respect to anyone who can do it for purely spiritual-type reasons, but they're probably about 72 reincarnations ahead of most people) but knowing your inner idiot and negotiating with it ironically seems to be the best solution a lot of the time. a watched pot never boils and all that, though this is clearly a problematic available-on-magnets-and-keyrings kind of phrase to take any further with internet drug people.
EDIT: re the actual drugs thing, luckier people seem to have what i got with meph, and the remaining stuff makes me like all the mephorror stories of yore. hence, er, let's all cross our fingers. it doesn't feel fair to be allergic to the ban though, clemaggedon should have thought of that before the door-step photo-shoot. (PS: does anyone else kind of wish the whole coalition -nearly wrote "demolition", freud made some good points- meant the cleggs had a basement flat and half the garden or something? or maybe NHSdirect were right about my impending doom).
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ok i'll stop spamming eventually but just one further thing on the drug that seems to have even less of an idea what to do than any of us can work out or try to extract from dealers, the weird-skin effects seem to kind of come and go. no speediness or anything scary but i swear my skin has been changing colour within a fairly limited range that doesn't seem to progress to full are-you-dead blue but still changing since i left A&E. my skin is also a bit bumpy like blackheads or something but without, like, black stuff. it's just..... weird. i'll let you know if it carries on more than another few days, and would appreciate anyone else chameleoning in no discernible time sequence. to try and elaborate on the skin thing, it's not a rash (i had like five red dots on one arm earlier, it's not exactly wide-scale but my face skin feels as if it's got a tiny little extra pocket of plasma between the top layers of skin... not in a terrifying way but just incredibly odd and potentially worrying if you're not kind of just interested in this stuff anyway, which i am. seriously... wtf.
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zamzams
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we're not discussing meph here and if i give you advice here it may be confused for NRG-2 so please copy/edit your post and addd it to a new thread instead, where i can answer u
Zigourney
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I fell asleep around 6am and woke up again at 8am, then just been tossing and turning, I couldn't fall back to sleep. The reports I read about nrg2 keeping you awake for hours, much longer than meph/E's is definitely true. I woke up with a hangover and my brain feels swollen. As soon as I stood up from getting out of bed I had an immediate head rush, like when you stand up too quick but felt seriously stronger, I nearly fell down, had to lay back down again before it went away.
I just finished having a big breakfast, I forced myself to eat, though I couldn't chew food properly and could hardly taste any salt or the ketchup in my egg sandwich. The inside of my mouth feels beaten up just like it does after a E/meph session but I can't remember clenching my jaw or gurning last night.
I think this chemical maybe a weak derivative of mephedron or something quite similar but obviously I'm no chemist and am just guessing. The initial come up felt the same as meph but it doesn't take you high enough...it just stays at a constant level but for longer, also there was no euphoria and there was no gurning. It just felt smooth and mellow constantly throughout the night. We were in control and aware of everything until it was wearing off and I had a spliff outside. After that I was completely smashed off the opposite direction the spliff buzz was taking me, it was a rapid comedown and I felt zoned out loosing track of time, at which point I went for my bed and was just drifting away to some music coming out of my headphones besides my pillow. This was as expected because that's what happens to me after taking a spliff on a comedown from a stimulant such as E/MDMA/meph.
All in all, my opinion on NRG2 is that don't believe the hype it isn't stronger than meph but it does keep you awake for much longer. I guess its ok I had a good time because I finished of nicely with a spliff, otherwise I think I would of been disappointed.
I just finished having a big breakfast, I forced myself to eat, though I couldn't chew food properly and could hardly taste any salt or the ketchup in my egg sandwich. The inside of my mouth feels beaten up just like it does after a E/meph session but I can't remember clenching my jaw or gurning last night.
I think this chemical maybe a weak derivative of mephedron or something quite similar but obviously I'm no chemist and am just guessing. The initial come up felt the same as meph but it doesn't take you high enough...it just stays at a constant level but for longer, also there was no euphoria and there was no gurning. It just felt smooth and mellow constantly throughout the night. We were in control and aware of everything until it was wearing off and I had a spliff outside. After that I was completely smashed off the opposite direction the spliff buzz was taking me, it was a rapid comedown and I felt zoned out loosing track of time, at which point I went for my bed and was just drifting away to some music coming out of my headphones besides my pillow. This was as expected because that's what happens to me after taking a spliff on a comedown from a stimulant such as E/MDMA/meph.
All in all, my opinion on NRG2 is that don't believe the hype it isn't stronger than meph but it does keep you awake for much longer. I guess its ok I had a good time because I finished of nicely with a spliff, otherwise I think I would of been disappointed.
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zamzams
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I didn't sleep much in the end. was sweating a bit and didn't get to sleep until 5hours after last dose.
we ended up finishing off 400mg each over the course of 7 hours. it does have a moreishness like meph but that's where the similarities stop. It increases heart rate and makes you relaxed, i don't see much point in that without having some euphoria.
We both decided this stuff wasn't worth the money & didn't have any remotely interesting effects.
we ended up finishing off 400mg each over the course of 7 hours. it does have a moreishness like meph but that's where the similarities stop. It increases heart rate and makes you relaxed, i don't see much point in that without having some euphoria.
We both decided this stuff wasn't worth the money & didn't have any remotely interesting effects.
^ I tend to agree. If I were to compare it to anything it would be MDAI - very mellow and relaxing but not much else. That's not a bad thing to be but if you're looking for a party drug or a stim along meph lines you'll be disappointed,
My sample is a brilliant white, slightly clumpy powder with no noticeable aroma. Burns like fuck snorted so didn't repeat that method and had a coupla bombs instead. Didn't go above 150mg bombed cos it really didn't feel like redosing had much effect. 150mg bomb had me feeling warm with a few tingly rushes but wasn't speedy. Felt relaxed but not quite sedated (also similar to MDAI) and had no trouble sleeping afterwards. Would be okay for a chilled night with a few spliffs and/or beers maybe but not something to use for partying cos it's as far from a party drug as it gets really. I'd treat it just the same as I would MDAI. Combos may be more interesting (as they are with MDAI again).
And on the SSRI thing, it definitely feels like a serotonergic to me - no sign on dopamine effects - so most likely won't have any effect at all if you're on SSRIs. I wouldn't worry though - you're really not missing anything exciting.
My sample is a brilliant white, slightly clumpy powder with no noticeable aroma. Burns like fuck snorted so didn't repeat that method and had a coupla bombs instead. Didn't go above 150mg bombed cos it really didn't feel like redosing had much effect. 150mg bomb had me feeling warm with a few tingly rushes but wasn't speedy. Felt relaxed but not quite sedated (also similar to MDAI) and had no trouble sleeping afterwards. Would be okay for a chilled night with a few spliffs and/or beers maybe but not something to use for partying cos it's as far from a party drug as it gets really. I'd treat it just the same as I would MDAI. Combos may be more interesting (as they are with MDAI again).
And on the SSRI thing, it definitely feels like a serotonergic to me - no sign on dopamine effects - so most likely won't have any effect at all if you're on SSRIs. I wouldn't worry though - you're really not missing anything exciting.
zamzams
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Just a heads up on this one. This stuff really dehydrates you so maybe best to stay away from beer. I ended up doing another small dose saturday night with a few beers and today i am feeling it. I don't recommend repeated use as it does feel like it puts pressure & strain on the heart.
My urine was very dark this morning (almost brown!), much worse than what meph ever did to me and i've had a constant headache & muscle aches (arms and hands) along with some heart palpitations & kidney pains.
The headache isn't too bad but i felt like this was related to dehydration so if you do do it repeatedly then make sure you stay hydrated.
It's not a diuretic though, i can only assume that it was due to excessive sweating. This weekend has been a scorcher though which may have had some factor in me feeling like this.
Well. I've gotten through a bottle of rum already and am well into the whisky now and it seems to be going damn fine with the NRG-2. I am sweating like a pig but it's a hot and humid night where I am. Been pissing like a usual boozy night. I guess I'll find out tomorrow how big a misake it was 8)
Psilo707
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nrg-2!!! I was fool enough to order some from a website which claimed it is 99.8% pure.
recieved it today and tried it few times from 12 till now (14:30). starteing with .15gr then .25gr and the last one was .35gr. what a waste of money. dont throw your money away. God I miss mephedron.
recieved it today and tried it few times from 12 till now (14:30). starteing with .15gr then .25gr and the last one was .35gr. what a waste of money. dont throw your money away. God I miss mephedron.
Regarding the fact that these NRGs aren't sold by their real name, a potential reason occurred to me. It's a lot harder to make a law banning something if its chemical name isn't known. Granted, government chemists would be able to ID it given a bit of time, but it would make it harder.
From the point of view of us labrats though, it's a bloody nuisance for exactly the same reason.
From a marketing point of view, if you're selling the best designer drug ever (let's call it XTC-666) and it gets banned, what's to stop you using its good name for an entirely different compound? Or even selling the same compound with a different made-up name? It's not like it's remotely feasible for the authorities to check everything that gets sent in the mail, after all.
From the point of view of us labrats though, it's a bloody nuisance for exactly the same reason.
From a marketing point of view, if you're selling the best designer drug ever (let's call it XTC-666) and it gets banned, what's to stop you using its good name for an entirely different compound? Or even selling the same compound with a different made-up name? It's not like it's remotely feasible for the authorities to check everything that gets sent in the mail, after all.
MrIbis
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supposedly this is what NRG-2 is:
"(2α,3α) -epithio-17α-methyl-17β-ol-N-Benzyloxycarbonyl-d-prolin"
google searches indicate jack shit to that end. Can anyone with a better understanding of that systematic name give me some indication as to the pharmacodynamics of it?
"(2α,3α) -epithio-17α-methyl-17β-ol-N-Benzyloxycarbonyl-d-prolin"
google searches indicate jack shit to that end. Can anyone with a better understanding of that systematic name give me some indication as to the pharmacodynamics of it?
^ It's a made up name - no drug by that name does (or even could, from what I've heard) exist. It's just a nonsense name that sounds impressive.
Raymonde: How do you think police ID that bag of white powder they catch you with? They test it just as the government will be testing these branded RCs. They probably know what they are already - it's just us that gets to play labrat![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
Raymonde: How do you think police ID that bag of white powder they catch you with? They test it just as the government will be testing these branded RCs. They probably know what they are already - it's just us that gets to play labrat
MrIbis
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phase_dancer made an interesting post re: the nomenclature i provided. It could quite possibly exist.
Yet it's likely a bullshit ploy.
Yet it's likely a bullshit ploy.