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Ecstasy drought sees switch to meow meow

On the topic of mephedrone - European Monitoring Centre on Drugs and Drug Addiction has released a couple of reports. I've read the risk analysis - pretty cautious on potential harms including cardiotoxicity. States deaths involved other drugs too. Also outlines a couple of synth routes...
 
Hi guys.

I'm not exactly a pill expert, however having browsed this forum and pillreports has been pretty insightful.

I've only taken pills -- whatever was in them in the end, I'm not sure -- a few times. The last being at my 21st in January, and the first being New Years Eve 2008/09. With the exception of one incident October last year (and the experiences seem to be very similar to MDA), I have only taken half a pill at a time. I have never experienced such a long lasting, euphoric, loving feeling that occurred during my first time; ever since then the experiences have been enjoyable, but never like 'that'.

Having read of MDMA droughts since mid 2000's, I wonder if my first time even contained MDMA. I am pretty confident that all subsequent experiences weren't MDMA, but the first time was just so amazing. I wonder, though, it might have been because it was my first ever time having a pill; a placebo effect? Was MDMA circulating more in late 2008 than it was now? I remember taking it at like 9.30pm, and the 'come down' started about 3am or so (though smoking a joint reignited the peak-like feelings). Every other time the come down -- and sometimes not even a good peak -- was like after 1.5 hours - 2 hours. I look back on photos and my pupils are epically dilated, and until this day I have never looked so genuinely happy and loving with the world and others in photos. The few days after I had such an afterglow; every other time, if anything, I get a bit morose. I guess I'll never know now.

I'm wanting to take a pill again in the last weekend of October, but knowing that MDMA/MDxx is so scarce at this time I wonder if it's worth the effort. I read about these green elephants on pillreports, and I bet half a pill would do me just fine if it's the real deal, but there are comments accusing the OP to be fake (no photo, no detailed report etc).

Do you guys believe that the green elephants are real?

Sorry that my post sounds so naive! :)
 
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Galaxy Rise said:
Having read of MDMA droughts since mid 2000's, I wonder if my first time even contained MDMA. I am pretty confident that all subsequent experiences weren't MDMA, but the first time was just so amazing.
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The answers in the question, if it was that amazing then it more than likely was MDMA.
 
Yeah, that's what I figured. But after reading about this drought, then maybe the experience is now looked upon nostalgically with rose coloured glasses.
 
Galaxy Rise said:
Hi guys.

I'm not exactly a pill expert, however having browsed this forum and pillreports has been pretty insightful.

I've only taken pills -- whatever was in them in the end, I'm not sure -- a few times. The last being at my 21st in January, and the first being New Years Eve 2008/09. With the exception of one incident October last year (and the experiences seem to be very similar to MDA), I have only taken half a pill at a time. I have never experienced such a long lasting, euphoric, loving feeling that occurred during my first time; ever since then the experiences have been enjoyable, but never like 'that'.

Having read of MDMA droughts since mid 2000's, I wonder if my first time even contained MDMA. I am pretty confident that all subsequent experiences weren't MDMA, but the first time was just so amazing. I wonder, though, it might have been because it was my first ever time having a pill; a placebo effect? Was MDMA circulating more in late 2008 than it was now? I remember taking it at like 9.30pm, and the 'come down' started about 3am or so (though smoking a joint reignited the peak-like feelings). Every other time the come down -- and sometimes not even a good peak -- was like after 1.5 hours - 2 hours. I look back on photos and my pupils are epically dilated, and until this day I have never looked so genuinely happy and loving with the world and others in photos. The few days after I had such an afterglow; every other time, if anything, I get a bit morose. I guess I'll never know now.

I'm wanting to take a pill again in the last weekend of October, but knowing that MDMA/MDxx is so scarce at this time I wonder if it's worth the effort. I read about these green elephants on pillreports, and I bet half a pill would do me just fine if it's the real deal, but there are comments accusing the OP to be fake (no photo, no detailed report etc).

Do you guys believe that the green elephants are real?

Sorry that my post sounds so naive! :)
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There was definately still MDMA pills going around at the end of 2008 start of 2009. I had my fair share then. They weren't as strong as pills from previous years but many still contained MDMA. if it was amazing and your pupils were highly dilated, plus you had lots of warm rushes and felt empathetic and loved up. then it was probably MDMA.

The difference with the last year is that virtually no pills contain MDMA, whereas the year or two previous there was just a steady decline in the quantity of MDMA in each pill.
 
As psytaco said there definately was still MDMA pills through 08 and 09. But they were getting rarer as we went.

Green elephants are confirmed to be real, and did come from overseas. However there is dud batch's around apparently already (This is quite common with popular pills, dealers are quick to make copycat batch's)


Do you remember the name of the pills you have had? I would say there is a decent chance the other times they weren't MDMA, whilst it may not seem as good as it did the first time. MDMA will still feel like MDMA. As I've said to a few people with less experience, when you have a pill sometimes your not sure if it was MDMA. But when you get MDMA you KNOW it's MDMA haha.

Peace
Pill Reports Mod ~ ts14
 
thestudent14 said:
As psytaco said there definately was still MDMA pills through 08 and 09. But they were getting rarer as we went.

Green elephants are confirmed to be real, and did come from overseas. However there is dud batch's around apparently already (This is quite common with popular pills, dealers are quick to make copycat batch's)


Do you remember the name of the pills you have had? I would say there is a decent chance the other times they weren't MDMA, whilst it may not seem as good as it did the first time. MDMA will still feel like MDMA. As I've said to a few people with less experience, when you have a pill sometimes your not sure if it was MDMA. But when you get MDMA you KNOW it's MDMA haha.

Peace
Pill Reports Mod ~ ts14
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Amen to that brother. U will know if u had MDMA or not:)
 
I don't remember the name of the pills I had. In fact, I don't even recall asking for a name. Probably rather foolish in hindsight.

But yeah, it was definitely a euphoric, loving feeling of both yourself and others that I've never experienced since. I've had fun on subsequent pills, but it was never "that".

I'm leading to believe that it indeed contained MDMA. Not only due to the recollection of such amazing feelings, but my pupils are epically dilated in the photos.

I hope to experience such a feeling again one day. That's why getting hold of MDMA would be amazing. :(
 
PsiloSubNaut said:
In years gone by, there have been many pills in the high 100's in Australia, but not since the early to mid 00's. There are currently a fair few pills in the 100-170mg range in Europe. Can only hope that they make their way to our shores in the millions...

Even the infamous red mitsi's of '04 were apparently only 110mg and they were killing people that were used to double or triple dropping! The authorities and doctors thought they were PMA to begin with...
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National...red-party-pills/2004/12/20/1103391701906.html

I swear I read a Herald Sun article stating that they were much higher than that (190mg) and i've had nothing as strong before or since those pills. That article had me making phone calls and taking a week off work within 10 seconds of reading it. Talk about waving a red flag at a bull. Those were the days %)

What's going to happen when the new generation of ecstasy users, come into contact with some real deal pingers???

The younger generation have been taking 5+ (I'm reading reports of 10+ in one sitting *sigh*) low dose, adulterated or bunk pills in a night and many of them have no idea that 2-3 high dose MDMA pills could be deadly toxic.

I OD'd when I dropped a blue sky and a yellow panda together back in 2004, it wasn't fun :\
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ha ha that brings back memories.i was at home once, had a blue sky and b-29 together, then topped up with a white mx half hour later. Lets just say my mates had to escort me out of home, i was a drippling mess massive visuals and could hardly walk, fuck i miss those days....
 
2530s said:
ha ha that brings back memories.i was at home once, had a blue sky and b-29 together, then topped up with a white mx half hour later. Lets just say my mates had to escort me out of home, i was a drippling mess massive visuals and could hardly walk, fuck i miss those days....
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Do u live in EU by any chance? I have had the sky beans in a few different colors back in 2005? or so and also yellow mx which no one ever heard of n couldnt find it on PR either.
 
Galaxy Rise said:
Hi guys.

I'm not exactly a pill expert, however having browsed this forum and pillreports has been pretty insightful.

I've only taken pills -- whatever was in them in the end, I'm not sure -- a few times. The last being at my 21st in January, and the first being New Years Eve 2008/09. With the exception of one incident October last year (and the experiences seem to be very similar to MDA), I have only taken half a pill at a time. I have never experienced such a long lasting, euphoric, loving feeling that occurred during my first time; ever since then the experiences have been enjoyable, but never like 'that'.

Having read of MDMA droughts since mid 2000's, I wonder if my first time even contained MDMA. I am pretty confident that all subsequent experiences weren't MDMA, but the first time was just so amazing. I wonder, though, it might have been because it was my first ever time having a pill; a placebo effect? Was MDMA circulating more in late 2008 than it was now? I remember taking it at like 9.30pm, and the 'come down' started about 3am or so (though smoking a joint reignited the peak-like feelings). Every other time the come down -- and sometimes not even a good peak -- was like after 1.5 hours - 2 hours. I look back on photos and my pupils are epically dilated, and until this day I have never looked so genuinely happy and loving with the world and others in photos. The few days after I had such an afterglow; every other time, if anything, I get a bit morose. I guess I'll never know now.

I'm wanting to take a pill again in the last weekend of October, but knowing that MDMA/MDxx is so scarce at this time I wonder if it's worth the effort. I read about these green elephants on pillreports, and I bet half a pill would do me just fine if it's the real deal, but there are comments accusing the OP to be fake (no photo, no detailed report etc).

Do you guys believe that the green elephants are real?

Sorry that my post sounds so naive! :)
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from what i have been lead to believe the first time will always be the best if you use semi regularly as the brain dumps all the serotonin, and it takes 7 years of non use to fully recover?
 
jamesyo said:
from what i have been lead to believe the first time will always be the best if you use semi regularly as the brain dumps all the serotonin, and it takes 7 years of non use to fully recover?
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I dunno where you pulled 7 years from? I'd love to see some referances should they exist.

But I personally think it's only a few weeks to at least 95% fully recover serotonin. I had a wonderful first experience with MDMA high pills a couple of years ago, and having the same pills about 5-6 weeks later absolutely mimic'd the same respone ~ Hours of amazing bliss.

I have never had the same high since, but I would whole heartadly believe that I haven't had a pill with anywhere near the strength since then.
I've heard with LSD you'll never experience the same as the first time, but even that I'm sceptical of. I believe it's more the amazing feeling of not knowing how good a substance can feel until you've tried it.

MDMA is a beautiful drug which can be easily abused if given easy access and affordability to it, but with the drought in hand I'd be absolutely shocked if it was tollerance from the first time making the other pills seem shit. Our drought is even more widespread then alot of people realise, people drop pipes left right and centre thinking they're the goods because they don't know better.
But if the first time was amazing and every time since it's been okay... I would absolutely put my money on what you had since at either being weak MDxx (MDMA, MDEA, MDA, bk-MDMA) or not MDxx at all

Had some Moons the other night, which are considerred MDA high by most but I'd say MDA medium (As I needed to double drop and felt I could still use more to reach that amazing feeling). But I would bet if I could get my Purple Grinners again they'd give me that out of control good feeling again in a heartbeat.

Ts14 ~ www.Pillreports.com Aus/NZ Mod
 
IMO your less likely to experience the same 'magic' as the first time with MDMA than with any other substance. It definitely doesn't apply with LSD. There may be that WOW factor if it's the first time you have hallucinated, but subsequent LSD trips will be as good or even better with the same dosage. MDMA on the other hand varies considerably from dose to dose. My first time was amazing and it has subsequently taken more to reach the same effects since those first few times, but I wouldn't say the effects were overly diminished until I started weekly use. With long breaks between doses you will ensure that you will have a great experience every time.

I certainly broke something in my brain during weekly and twice weekly use in the early to mid 00's. Now days I rarely take MDMA, but 300mg still breaks down those social barriers and has me as dancey and loved up as ever before. Probably a 3 fold dosage increase on what it took in my early days. Anything below 150mg is mediocre at best for me and I doubt any break, no matter how long, will ever resolve that.

The diminished effects from over using MDMA are only one bad side effect. I believe the memory impairments, especially the 'e-tarted' speech impediments are a good kick in the nuts and a strong reason to never take it more than every 4-6 weeks. Not to mention severe mood swings and total lack of motivation...

Everything in moderation
 
i can't remember where i've read or heard that but it always stuck in my brain for some reason. after doing some quick reading, it seems that studies have been pretty inconclusive as to the time frame and ability of the brain to recover from serotonin damage.

but yeah, as psilo said, everything in moderation and space out the usage
 
Trust me, you wait long enough not having something, the next time you have it, the magic is back!
 
i agree with moderation! it's no fun watching your friends peaking like no one's business off the same thing you took and you can't even get into the rhythm of the music...all because you haven't taken a weekend off in a month..

as for lsd, there's no 'dragon' to chase. it will manifest distinctly each time, imo.

as for these rumours of elephants in the room, making my knees knock, can anyone indicate how prevalent they are? because you'd think there'd be murmurs through the grape vine, but there isn't even a breeze.
 
The popularity of Mephedrone has nothing to do with how enjoyable it actually is, in my opinion.. I think it's a combination of the lack of med-high MDMA dose pills in recent times.. and the fact that people get excited about a new 'designer drug' regardless of what they know about it..

I had some guy come over to my house and answer a phone call, dribbling (very loudly) a bunch a shit about 'yeah nah my mate's got this new shit, reckons it's called woof woof, just like eckies and coke eh!'

I wanted to throw his phone and slap his face.

In saying that, I haven't and won't bother with pills for a while unless I know they're 100mg MDMA or thereabouts.. and that's only happened once in the last year or more.. there was a steady batch of blanks with 100-110mg MDMA for a few months until fella with the press got done for 8 years for being a crackhead (real crack cocaine.. that's the killer)

At the moment I see a good flow of crystal MDMA and people (at least the people in those particular circles) in SEQLD/NNSW are more than happy with that.. The spirit has creeped back into it and I can see more smiling faces and content users and positive experiences manifesting..

Pertaining to the topic.. Meph sucks. I can't take MDMA regularly like I have in the past, I guess it's done its dash for me.. I know I love my friends already, you know? But not everyone likes meth/base/smokeable like I do, so it's good to see a steady flow of good quality close-to-100% pure floating around :)

Also, first post.
 
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Welcome to bluelight lifetolifeless

Top first post, it's definately a combination of things of why Meph was as successful as it was.
The fact that it's legal is a big boost, not saying that prohibition works for other drugs but people do feel more easy trying something legal instead of illegal.

The fact that it came during the drought absolutely made it more used but lets not forget, it may not seem like a good substitute to Pure MDMA, but for people who have less experience with ecstasy will find Meph extremely enjoyable.

Glad to hear you can get crystal in QLD/NSW, wish I had access to in here in Vic at the moment. You seem to know when something is the real deal, but just letting you know a few months ago there was quite a steady flow of bk-MDMA (methylone) which is also a good substitute for the real deal but requires higher doses 250mg ~ 100mg.

Once again, good first post. You should stick around =D
 
Did someone say Molly? (MDMA) :)

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Will test myself this weekend hopefully. Havnt come across high quality molly for yeeeaaaars. Smells just like the 1st pill i bought in 2001:) its def around, screw adulterated pills. If u know what the real deal is then u wont have problems. Hope u all have a good weekend:)
Peace to all.
 
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