eating Nurofen

[Doooofus]

I've been thinking about this whole odd/even batch number thing and the consequences of it. Say it turns out that all odd numbered batches definitely do not split. In the interests of harm minimisation the logical thing to do would be to tell everyone about it - splash it across the internet, add it to FAQs etc etc. But in doing so we increase the chances (or so I think) of alerting the manufacturers to the fact that people are abusing the product, and that we have found a way around their attempt at preventing this. Sure the manufacturers would know that a portion of sales are being abused, but they may decide to take further action if they get wind of the fact that the deterrent (odd batch numbers) has been avoided.

Which may result in all batches being made unsplittable... And we are back to CWEing after all this. So, do we spread the news (if the trend continues) or is this our little secret?

This post is a little tongue in cheek, but it is an interesting idea that we may be contributing to fazing out splittable N+.

Also, I was wondering if the UK (where most N+ are unsplittable) only receive odd batch numbers or whether this pattern is limited to Australia only....?

 

[deano]

This post is a little tongue in cheek, but it is an interesting idea that we may be contributing to fazing out splittable N+.

Also, I was wondering if the UK (where most N+ are unsplittable) only receive odd batch numbers or whether this pattern is limited to Australia only....?

I was also wondering the same thing, for example the ones that split are imported and the ones that don't are locally produced.... or the other way around. The date certainly doesn't seem to matter. I'm sure the day will come when all of them are "nonsplittable"

Seems the odds and even method is a winner for now though

 

[h-90]

Why on earth would Nurofen care that some of their customers split the pills to abuse Codeine. Infact they would be pleased because addicted customers buy more.

 

[deano]

Why on earth would Nurofen care that some of their customers split the pills to abuse Codeine. Infact they would be pleased because addicted customers buy more.

Personally I'm sure it increases sales, but they did invent the "nonsplittable" tab for a reason.

 

[smokeblow]

I just had a thought.....

I remembered something from my uni days (yay)... simple supply and demand relationship stuff, from economics. Basically, if demand for a product increases, so does it's price.

Think about this with regards to Nurofen. They realise that they are selling more packs of N+ with the current splittable batches.. If they continue to produce the same tablets, then the supply will continue to increase as more people want to buy N+. However, the only problem we have is that Nurofen will increase their prices to increase revenue. Simple economics.

However, if Nurofen produce more packets than the demand is, the price will not be pushed up any higher because the supply more than meets the demand. If the consumers (yep, all of us) who purchased the total demand, and were all satisfied (ie: they are splittable) then the price of the left over N+ packets which had not sold may eventually drop, thus allowing for Nurofen to sell the remaining packets.. In turn, this would allow those on a lower income to buy Nurofen who previously did not have the opportunity because of high price. make sense?

hmm... so don't blame me if above sounds like complete nonsense.. blame Uni.


edit: just went N+ shopping

only problem, I could not get a chance to check the batch numbers before I purchased. I received the following

24 pack.....
Batch number: 23YY
expires: 05 2007

48 pack (from different chemist)
batch number: 1YY
expires: 05 2007

BOTH packs have 'Y' and odd batch numbers, heck even expiry dates. Will edit this post again later and tell results of spitting. No doubt these won't spilt

 

[deano]

24 pack.....
Batch number: 23YY
expires: 05 2007

48 pack (from different chemist)
batch number: 1YY
expires: 05 2007

BOTH packs have 'Y' and odd batch numbers, heck even expiry dates. Will edit this post again later and tell results of spitting. No doubt these won't spilt

Maybe we should return the "unsplitables as faulty"

Batch 18YY exp. 05 2007 split ok.

 

[charlesbronson]

as for splittable N+ achieving better sales results, sure that's great for Nurofen and if it were up to them they'd be selling us more than just splittable N+ tablets to make a buck, but it is the TGA and other govt organisations that have their say and that is why sooner or later no packs will be splittable. Codeine 30mg tablets with no other actives are Schedule 8 (same schedule as morphine, dexamphetamine, rohypnol etc) so the authorities won't hesitate to shut this little loophole unfortunately (for us and Boots Healthcare).

Meanwhile, cheers all for the revelation about the odd/even numbers, i'll throw in some data that i gathered:

48 pack: Batch 9YY / Expiry 04 2007 Splits - NO

48 pack: Batch 6YY / Expiry 04 2007 Splits - YES

 

[Strawberry_lovemuffin]

as for splittable N+ achieving better sales results, sure that's great for Nurofen and if it were up to them they'd be selling us more than just splittable N+ tablets to make a buck, but it is the TGA and other govt organisations that have their say

That's absolutely correct, give the man a donut.

I know personally the trials of dealing with the TGA and pharmaceutical companies aren't allowed to wipe their ass without showing the TGA what's on the toilet paper. Since the Pan debacle especially they're all over the medicines industry like a rash on a fat lady's thighs.

 

[smokeblow]

^ yeah.. so true..

oh well. my batch number on the 24's that I now have consumed split but not the usual clean split.. I chose to swallow 12 halves, then the other 12 halved I CWE as I do anyway.. I may have missed some codeine, as I have felt ZERO effect tonight.. Could just have been the scene and setting which has a lot to do with the experience. I will try the 48's all day tomorrow.. I choose N+ every time over lamb on Australia day

 

[eccitude]

Has anyone thought that this apparent splittable/non-splittable odd/even batch theory may be because perhaps the different batches might be made at different factories? Perhaps one of the factories just has crap quality control like that factory that got shut down last year by the TGA?

Gotta love a good conspiracy theory

 

[Doooofus]

pete_gasparino - Great post, although I think it has already been established (in this thread, I think) that indeed the codeine and ibuprofen are still separate in unsplittables - it is just a pain when you get a pack that don't split properly. The way splittable pills *pop* apart is just so damn satisfying But it is good to see all that info in one place, and good work with the research too - backing up your facts

I have found when splitting unsplittables that I get the best results when I mark a score around two thirds across the top of the pill (as opposed to halfway for splittables... know what I mean?) and then press down with the blade or knife at a slight angle towards you, i.e. angle the top edge of the razor slightly towards your body. Make sense? ...

In regards to swelling, I got that once when I combined alcohol and codeine - my hands and face swelled incredibly. I made a thread in Drug Basics about it a while back if you can be bothered looking. I find that with my usual dose (150-220mg) the histamine reaction is manageable and doesn't really bother me all that much.

Gah, I have to go... my N+ is starting to kick in

 

[clop]

Sorry to spoil the show.

Adelaide, 24 pack, 19YY, exp. 5/2007, splittable - definitely yes.

 

[boodha]

i have split 3 packets, asked for 48's, all have split perfectly, the first one i split. When i looked close at it, i could see a "seam", so now, i just use a knife an crack em down that area and 98% of them split no problems.
The ones that dont are easy to clean up(scrape off the iburofen with your nail) with ony 1-2% actually splitting in half/breaking up, elminating some of the codeine, the rest are PERFECT(well, yeah).

codeine seems quite subtle but heavy at times, mixed with pot it can be very nice, but alone i find it a tad lacking, i seem to need 300mg and something else to really get a "high" but at these levels a bit too much can really seem too much, hence the subtle but heavy.
but one 48pack seems to be = to one codeine expereience.

i also have cwe the split pills, disploved them in cold water then filtered them through coffee filters, just to get rid of the shit and only have codeine, it seems to work.

i always take a telfast, i do become quite itchy.

update, just rode up and bought another 48pk didnt care to look at packet number blah blah, again split as all of them have, easily. infact i split a few with my teeth on the ride back

 

[YakuzaAngel]

im allergic to aspirin would i be alergic to codine?

cheers

 

[Doooofus]

Sorry to spoil the show.

Adelaide, 24 pack, 19YY, exp. 5/2007, splittable - definitely yes.

Interesting... very interesting. I assume you've split Nurofens before? Are these ones splitting perfectly? I mean, sure you can split unsplittables, they just don't pop apart like splittables do.

 

[John Candy]

My 1YY 48 batch split perfectly well, and my hand is well seasoned in the art of splitting.....

Now, if I can only perfect the art of Splitting without Splitting.....

 

[twonk]

Interesting thread.

Ive been doing this nurofen thing for quite awhile, and much like pete-gasparino, i no longer get any beneficial enjoyable effects - even from large doses.

In regards to that swelling thing, it sounds very much like a side-effect of the histamine response - its a similar form of hives in which i imagine the swelling also causes redness and a strange itchiness/tingling. In fact, the other day, i thought i would try using nurofen again despite my tolernace being large. i used proabbly 300mg and my reaction was definately unexpected. I became incredibly itchy, broke out in hives and my blood pressure and body tempreture increased dramatically. I ran to the doctor's office in fear that i was going into anaphylactic shock, and lo and behold i was.

I was given the epinepherine shot, and minutes later i was feeling much better. I cant believe this happened, although i have had similar histamine reactions before from taking large doses, but never anyhting this threatening.
Anyway guys, the best way to resolve this is jsut to take an anti-histamine before, reducing the undesirable codeine itchiness.
Thanks for reading
Twonk.

 

[smokeblow]

Originally posted by smokeblow


48 pack (from different chemist)
batch number: 1YY
expires: 05 2007

ok. can now officially say I am confused? last night I could not split the first 24 in the 48 pack above.. I just returned from the cutting lab, to now tell you all that the last half of the pack spit perfectly? hmmm.. maybe I was careless last night and just did not use the correct approach with the blade? but I have done this a million times now. First time I have ever had a 48 pack which half split and half won't...

 

[clop]

Interesting... very interesting. I assume you've split Nurofens before? Are these ones splitting perfectly? I mean, sure you can split unsplittables, they just don't pop apart like splittables do.

Yes I've split plenty before. And yes these split just as easily as any others. I lie a carving knife along the top of the pill and gently bang the top of the blade with my fist and they just fall cleanly apart.

clop

 

[MoeBro]

im allergic to aspirin would i be alergic to codine?

cheers

no, but you might be allergic to ibuprofen, which is an aspirin derivative

make sure you eat the right side (N+)