Black Octagon
Bluelighter
^Have you tried briefly microwaving them first?
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eating Nurofen
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Black Octagon: In response to your question, the 72 packs have a different logo on the front. They have a large red multilayered circle and no two silver arrows pointing toward one another at the bottom right.
Yes I have tried to microwave them (72 packs) and no they are not splitable. I have also seen adds for N+ recently (in Melbourne) and they are advertising 48 and 24 packs with the new logo as well. This would suggest that soon no packs will be splitable... microwave or no microwave.
I feel like Im on some sort of damn merry-go-round when I read/reply in this thread.
I would also like to mention that Im not taking buperenorphine to get off this shit... I recommend anyone with a serious N+ habit to start considering their long term health and well being. Be it a slow reduction in Codeine intake or if necessary seeing a Doctor.
Yes I have tried to microwave them (72 packs) and no they are not splitable. I have also seen adds for N+ recently (in Melbourne) and they are advertising 48 and 24 packs with the new logo as well. This would suggest that soon no packs will be splitable... microwave or no microwave.
I feel like Im on some sort of damn merry-go-round when I read/reply in this thread.
I would also like to mention that Im not taking buperenorphine to get off this shit... I recommend anyone with a serious N+ habit to start considering their long term health and well being. Be it a slow reduction in Codeine intake or if necessary seeing a Doctor.
Black Octagon
Bluelighter
^I see. That certainly is shit. I wonder if they'll start scratching their heads when their sales start to go down. There are a hell of a lot of codeine junkies out there.
Their sales are going to plummet, Panaphen+ is a competing product with little abuse potential and it costs less. They may very well loose a significant market share. Consider this... if there about 2000 people who are abusing N+ daily with an average intake of 48 pills per day and an average price of $14 this is the sums for one week alone!!:
weekly gross sales=2000*7*$14
weekly gross sales=$196,000
now that's some serious money, there may be less people abusing the drug but if you take into account occasional users 2000 could be a reasonable figure... ?
weekly gross sales=2000*7*$14
weekly gross sales=$196,000
now that's some serious money, there may be less people abusing the drug but if you take into account occasional users 2000 could be a reasonable figure... ?
Black Octagon
Bluelighter
Considering that Nurofen is sold worldwide, I personally think 2000 is an extremely conservative estimate.
Now that people wishing to continue recreational codeine use are basically forced to perform cold water extractions, the business is going to go to whichever company can provide the best value in terms of mg/$.
But that business is still going to pale in comparison to what Nurofen have been enjoying. This is weird in some ways. I always assumed that Nurofen were 100% aware that feeding the junkies was a major source of their revenue. Shrug.
Now that people wishing to continue recreational codeine use are basically forced to perform cold water extractions, the business is going to go to whichever company can provide the best value in terms of mg/$.
But that business is still going to pale in comparison to what Nurofen have been enjoying. This is weird in some ways. I always assumed that Nurofen were 100% aware that feeding the junkies was a major source of their revenue. Shrug.
This shit is getting funnier every time I look at it.
I can just see it now, Panaphen+ spots a spectacular marketing opportunity and brings out a new advertising campaign...
"Now 10 times easier to split then Nurofen +!"
Perhaps Nurofen will then start to put CWE instructions on the back of the packets to win back the codeine abuser market.
I can just see it now, Panaphen+ spots a spectacular marketing opportunity and brings out a new advertising campaign...
"Now 10 times easier to split then Nurofen +!"
Perhaps Nurofen will then start to put CWE instructions on the back of the packets to win back the codeine abuser market.
yeah, Im finding it to be good. Im not interested in it for rec. purposes just to stabilise me until I finish Uni. and sort out my issues that are causing my opiate abuse. I thinks its great,
just a pity you can't have take home doses
(sorry O.T.)
just a pity you can't have take home doses
(sorry O.T.)
Yeah sorry I was just thinking locally, I have no idea about overseas or if they have splittable tablets in other countries. That would compound it even more, they would be making millions of dollars of this. The largest legal dope dealership available, pretty f*cked up hey!
The_Masochrist
Bluelighter
so have all the packets been replaced to non splitable ones in vic yet ?
btw threads like this should never be allowed again, im now addicted to codiene thanks to this thread (of course its my own fault for letting it happen), and with this type of knowledge ignorance is bliss.
Anyway this site is ment to be about harm reduction, instead this thread tells you how to get high off otc medication that can be potentially dangerous (eg combined with alchole etc). what im saying is this thread offers nothing beneficial to society except to fatten nurofens wallets.
well ive been tapering my dose gradully with some success, im out
btw threads like this should never be allowed again, im now addicted to codiene thanks to this thread (of course its my own fault for letting it happen), and with this type of knowledge ignorance is bliss.
Anyway this site is ment to be about harm reduction, instead this thread tells you how to get high off otc medication that can be potentially dangerous (eg combined with alchole etc). what im saying is this thread offers nothing beneficial to society except to fatten nurofens wallets.
well ive been tapering my dose gradully with some success, im out
BigTrancer
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An important point you touched on is that this site is about harm reduction, however you implied a contradiction existed in this thread (and therefore site) which led you to become addicted to codeine.
There's a disclaimer at the bottom of every BL page about how we aim to help people make more informed decisions... and this thread does indeed speak volumes about how to safely obtain codeine from OTC preparations for recreational use. It is true that methods of extracting, splitting and otherwise obtaining codeine cheaply and quickly for recreational use are discussed in great depth.
The thread does not, however, say to repeat the experience on a daily basis, and in fact contains numerous reports of addiction, withdrawal and medical treatment due to overuse (abuse) of codeine. Sure, some people talk casually about frequent use, and their experiences and stories suggest they have done codeine a lot, but that doesn't mean everyone will have the same reactions/side-effects. At what point can we draw the line between giving both sides of the story, and trying to protect people from themselves? Ignorance isn't bliss, it's blindness.
Bluelight is unique in terms of the archive of HARM REDUCTION information, USER REPORTS/opinions and FACTUAL DATA are usually mixed together in proportions which vary greatly from post to post. The forums are moderated, which obviously swings the percentages a little in the endangered genome's favour but clearly the ball is in your court once you decide to step away from the computer and go try one of those recipes you read about on the internet.
Good luck kicking your codeine addiction. I'm sure that nobody ever sets out to become addicted to a drug, its just one of those things that you don't see a problem with until you realise that you can't stop.
BigTrancer
There's a disclaimer at the bottom of every BL page about how we aim to help people make more informed decisions... and this thread does indeed speak volumes about how to safely obtain codeine from OTC preparations for recreational use. It is true that methods of extracting, splitting and otherwise obtaining codeine cheaply and quickly for recreational use are discussed in great depth.
The thread does not, however, say to repeat the experience on a daily basis, and in fact contains numerous reports of addiction, withdrawal and medical treatment due to overuse (abuse) of codeine. Sure, some people talk casually about frequent use, and their experiences and stories suggest they have done codeine a lot, but that doesn't mean everyone will have the same reactions/side-effects. At what point can we draw the line between giving both sides of the story, and trying to protect people from themselves? Ignorance isn't bliss, it's blindness.
Bluelight is unique in terms of the archive of HARM REDUCTION information, USER REPORTS/opinions and FACTUAL DATA are usually mixed together in proportions which vary greatly from post to post. The forums are moderated, which obviously swings the percentages a little in the endangered genome's favour but clearly the ball is in your court once you decide to step away from the computer and go try one of those recipes you read about on the internet.
Good luck kicking your codeine addiction. I'm sure that nobody ever sets out to become addicted to a drug, its just one of those things that you don't see a problem with until you realise that you can't stop.
BigTrancer
^^^^ Well said BigTrancer.
I would never of botherd to try codine if i didn't get prescribed a pack after I left the dentist last week.
I tell ya what, giving up weed was a breeze taking a couple of these a day. They were just 30mg/500mg(para)
I can understand why youd bother to do extraction methods now. Not something id try personally but i was always curious why this thread created so much attention.
Its nothing mindblowing, but definatly relaxing.
I would never of botherd to try codine if i didn't get prescribed a pack after I left the dentist last week.
I tell ya what, giving up weed was a breeze taking a couple of these a day. They were just 30mg/500mg(para)
I can understand why youd bother to do extraction methods now. Not something id try personally but i was always curious why this thread created so much attention.
Its nothing mindblowing, but definatly relaxing.
pinkanga
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Correct BT. The thing about codeine is not only are the effects quite subtle but so are the addiction warnings. Personally, Im not addicted although I could quite easily at this point have 2 boxes a day 2-3 times a week. A box a day from that point would be feasible but totally pointless - it qould be at this stage that a stronger opiate may be required. So Im going cold-turkey and I gotta say its pretty fucking easy..... with no physical withdrawal symptoms. I do think about codeine daily tho, and my biggest disappointment would be that I can no longer have codeine-movie day/nights .....god they were great. Nothing last forever though.
crow011
Bluelighter
The_Masochrist said:
considering that potentially lives have been saved because of the information in this thread, i would argue that you dont have any say in what is and isnt acceptable in this online community in terms of harm reduction . . .
like you said, its your own stupid fault for getting addicted - but dont claim that because of one case of addicition this whole thread is a waste of time and is not beneficial to society . . .
the other side of the coin, too, is that perhaps the information contained in this thread has offered a new way of obtaining relaxation to otherwise more unhealthy and hazardous substances . . . just because something is a drug doesnt mean it is completely and utterly all bad . . .
we need to stop seeing substances like codeine and ecstasy as drugs and more as potential tools . . .
I agree with the flames The_Masochrist has received in response to his claim that this thread is to blame for his personal problems.
I also was addicted to codeine, yes I did read and contribute to this thread. But Im not going to blame my personal issues on information that could and has been of use to many people. Potentially stopping harm caused by uneducated practices that would have continued regardless.
Find another scapegoat 'The_Masochrist" look inside yourself and ask yourself some very very serious questions. If you keep blaming others your in for one tough ride....
I also was addicted to codeine, yes I did read and contribute to this thread. But Im not going to blame my personal issues on information that could and has been of use to many people. Potentially stopping harm caused by uneducated practices that would have continued regardless.
Find another scapegoat 'The_Masochrist" look inside yourself and ask yourself some very very serious questions. If you keep blaming others your in for one tough ride....
^ Word, well said! Without some of the information in this thread, no doubt there would have been people who may have eaten 12 nurofen + tablets whole just because they heard from someone who heard from someone else that the codeine in the tablets caused a very relaxing effect.
The_Masochrist - You need to learn the three R's
- Respect for others;
- Respect for yourself; and
- Responsibility for your own actions.
The_Masochrist - You need to learn the three R's
- Respect for others;
- Respect for yourself; and
- Responsibility for your own actions.
The_Masochrist
Bluelighter
geez i was merly putting a point across, must u make me feel like im insignificant, mabey i was a little politically incorrect with some of the things i said here is a better explanation of my ideas.
i agree there is some positives that come out of this thread but, i beilve that the negatives out way them
say this thread managed to reduce 1 visit to the hospital which i doubt, since if anyone was dumb enough to high dose something and, not know its effect on their body they wouldnt be browsing a harm reduction site. Most of the people on here are not your typical junkie idiot and will research things first. they would look up iburophen and codeiene phosphate seperatly in google or soemthing and, thats exactly what i did when i discovered the nurophen thread.
Now for the rest of hte people who see this thread for the first time and say hey why would i want to eat nurofen, they click on the thread, they read, they buy, they split and repeat untill addiction sets in. Dont say its an idiotic process because many people get addicted for a variety of reasons and most of them do not set out to do so.
So my point is, why dont we cancel that process and not have a recepie in someones face on how to get high that could be potentially harmfull and, in harmfull i mean codeine is an opiate and is highly addictive and i feel pretty strongly against them now. Since ive been on opiates ive managed to meet a few people who have and are addicted to harder stuff and from what ive seen and heard is that people are only getting worse or getting better on opiates there is no steady state for the average opiate user (this is based on my own experiance with myself and other opiate users).
thats what i mean when it offers nothing benefical to society, only negatives
bt you put some good points across and i admit good does come out of this thread, but i belive this thread has definatly caused more people to be discover codeine and become addicted then it has saved tehm from any type of health problems from trying to persue a codeine high and in doing so injested to much or other chemicals
perhaps this thread could be locked so its not in your face when you browse. so that it gets pushed back in the forum. if people need to see this information they can search, and in doing that they are persuing the information
i guess what im really anoyed about is that it creates new opiate addicts, something which is not desireable
oh and by the way my taper is complete and im codeine free for 3 days, its been hard but i think im on my way now
i agree there is some positives that come out of this thread but, i beilve that the negatives out way them
say this thread managed to reduce 1 visit to the hospital which i doubt, since if anyone was dumb enough to high dose something and, not know its effect on their body they wouldnt be browsing a harm reduction site. Most of the people on here are not your typical junkie idiot and will research things first. they would look up iburophen and codeiene phosphate seperatly in google or soemthing and, thats exactly what i did when i discovered the nurophen thread.
Now for the rest of hte people who see this thread for the first time and say hey why would i want to eat nurofen, they click on the thread, they read, they buy, they split and repeat untill addiction sets in. Dont say its an idiotic process because many people get addicted for a variety of reasons and most of them do not set out to do so.
So my point is, why dont we cancel that process and not have a recepie in someones face on how to get high that could be potentially harmfull and, in harmfull i mean codeine is an opiate and is highly addictive and i feel pretty strongly against them now. Since ive been on opiates ive managed to meet a few people who have and are addicted to harder stuff and from what ive seen and heard is that people are only getting worse or getting better on opiates there is no steady state for the average opiate user (this is based on my own experiance with myself and other opiate users).
thats what i mean when it offers nothing benefical to society, only negatives
bt you put some good points across and i admit good does come out of this thread, but i belive this thread has definatly caused more people to be discover codeine and become addicted then it has saved tehm from any type of health problems from trying to persue a codeine high and in doing so injested to much or other chemicals
perhaps this thread could be locked so its not in your face when you browse. so that it gets pushed back in the forum. if people need to see this information they can search, and in doing that they are persuing the information
i guess what im really anoyed about is that it creates new opiate addicts, something which is not desireable
oh and by the way my taper is complete and im codeine free for 3 days, its been hard but i think im on my way now
^ People are free to make their own decisions and conclusions.
Just because a person browsing these forums can see this thread does not mean they will automatically run straight down to the pharmacy, purchase a 48 pack of N+ then start splitting them like a mad person. For every person that has looked at this thread and thought "hey, Im gonna do that" there are 5 others who just thought; fuck it - why bother.
People will do what they want to do.
Just because a person browsing these forums can see this thread does not mean they will automatically run straight down to the pharmacy, purchase a 48 pack of N+ then start splitting them like a mad person. For every person that has looked at this thread and thought "hey, Im gonna do that" there are 5 others who just thought; fuck it - why bother.
People will do what they want to do.
eggman88888 said:
I agree with The_Masochrist and wholly disagree with eggman.
"For every person that has looked at this thread and thought "hey, I'm gonna do that" there are 5 others who just thought; fuck it - why bother."
If you're correct, you're saying that this thread has made 17% of the people who read it, who would never have thought of taking codeine; who, like me, had no idea you could even get high from codeine, nor that you can split pills you can buy over the counter in the local pharmacy, go out and try it.
I thought codeine was shit and only tried it two or three times, months ago, but I would never have bothered in the first place if it hadn't been for the information and thinly-veiled encouragement in this thread.
For people already using N+ to supply themselves with codeine, this thread is academic. For people not already using codeine, this thread gives you ideas you didn't have before.
clop
^ Those figures where clearly just of the top of my head, If we want to get serious then we should run a poll, which is not likely to happen.
Sure, the thread gives you ideas you havent had before, but like I said...
People make thier own decisions and they will do what they want to do.
IMO the original arguement still holds, take responsibility for your own decisions and choices and stop passing the buck!
Sure, the thread gives you ideas you havent had before, but like I said...
People make thier own decisions and they will do what they want to do.
IMO the original arguement still holds, take responsibility for your own decisions and choices and stop passing the buck!