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i was dosing just once in the day about 10 mins after waking up (800mg). Some people dose 2 or 3 times a day.
 
Well, I'm hoping to give Phenibut a try soon, thinking it might mix well with kava...
 
I can't believe that I've never heard of Phenibut, until now! I am having some of that. Maybe a way to calm the benzo use. Does anyone know how addictive it is, compared to benzos, etc?
 
I keep not having enough cash to order Pirecetam. Get paid tomorro tho I won't imagine it'll be much, so maybe next week.
 
Splatt said:
Do you just take it in the morning and not at lunc or night??

I want to start with attack doses with Chloline. Im thinking 4.2 grams in the morning for 2-3 weeks, then going to 2 grams for another 2-3 weeks, then 800mg-1gram as i hear it is better this weay and you still get the same results as it builds up in your system or something, or your body gets more adjusted to absorbing it.

What dose chloline should I take, 2 grams, then tap[er down to one grtam when tapering the piracaetam?
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Don't attack dose the chloline at all, I take about 800mgs of Chloline Bit, a gram left me feeling a bit wired at the end of the day and I didn't like it. Chloline has side effects when you take too much.
 
^^ I'd guess taking a benadryl or 2 would counteract that nicely, but that's not a nootropic, is it?
 
Yeah its making weird smells emit from my nose. The chloline.

How long of piracetam should I do until I know its affecting me. At the moment if anything its made me less active, bit dumber in ways of words and memory recall will this improve or am I one of the few that wont get worthwile effects from it. I'll give it a month but the powder tastes like shit and capping it all is a nightmare, so I shot it with water, but it doesnt dissolve 100%, then have an after taster of juice. Im taking MDMA in a week, should I stop or up the piracteam to get better mdma effects that day or a couple days before
 
just keep taking piracetam, also to give you a tip, low doses are way more effective, keep lowering the dose untill you notice anything you might be suprised
 
No they aren't, if you take high doses you're pretty much guaranteed to get it on track. What's the point in doing less of a drug to get more effects when it takes so long to begin to work in the first place? Dose high then try and taper down I say.

Also Splatt, what does it smell like? Apparently too much chloline makes you smell of fish. :\

It took about 3 weeks to start working for me, I didn't just decide one day that it was working, I just gradually noticed that my mindstate was vastly improved. Give it 3-4 weeks. I was doing 2400mg piracetam + 600mg chloline followed by a 1600mg piracetam booster about 5 hours later (was on nightshift so no insomnia worries though).
 
It took me 10 days to get sorted on the stuff. But I'm having trouble sleeping and I'm hornier than usual, but otherwise very motivated and organized. Procrastination is a thing of the past. It's no actual 'buzz' so it's hard to explain, but I definitely feel more 'here', with my brain all in one spot. I don't have the dosages down exactly, I'm just taking a teaspoon of Choline and one of Piracetam in the morning on an empty stomach, I mix it in with OJ or cranberry juice and the taste isn't bad.

It made me manic in that i was coming home after a long day of IT troubleshooting and implementing and then 'relaxing' after dinner to tech manuals and I had about 5 virtual machines going on my laptop. A joint or G would do little to blunt my razor-sharp attention span, but I couldn't sleep so I stopped taking a lunchtime booster.
 
MeDieViL said:
just keep taking piracetam, also to give you a tip, low doses are way more effective, keep lowering the dose untill you notice anything you might be suprised
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Lower doses can work better, but only once you've achieved effects with a higher dose. For starting off I'd recomend you keep at it for 2 weeks at least. I'd be surprised if you didn't feel anything after 2 weeks.
 
I need to get this shit ordered, seems like it could help me no ends. Next week I should have more than enough cash to put an order in, the not being able to sleep thing really is my main worry. I have enough trouble getting a decent sleep as it is.
 
I just slept on a 4.8 gram dose of Piracetam because I was tired. And im an insomniac. lol
 
^^ I hear that, probably why piracetam and choline don't seem to interesting to me. Hopefully the phenibut should help with that though. Vassopressin looks interesting too, as I seem to piss out everything I drink, half the time, always getting dehydrated.
 
Ok I'm about to actually get round to ordering this stuff, finally! Thinking just to see how it goes will opt for 250grams of piracetam powder and 100grams of Choline Citrate. Will that be ok for now just to see how it works with me?
 
I was going to do anorder earlier thios month, but the shipping was more than the product. I asked a few people at the time if they want to bulk up and the offer still stands.

I definately need piracetam after a few months very drinking and am contemplating phenibut for the same reasons but I'm wary of experimenting with GABA agonist to help overcome drinking problems.

I usually just use soya lecithin for choline, as its cheap and 2.4g of piracetam 3 times a day.

Im going to check my bank as i can probably spare 20 quid which will cover my piracetam and a share of shipping IIRC.
 
Phenibut is very like GBL in some ways (though feels milder) and can be addictive in a similar way if taken regularly. Because of this i don't think it should be used in the same was as piracetam.
 
Only gonna be $33 including shipping for my order. Whats the difference between the Choline types, are they literally just different brands or are there other differences?
 
I need to try this piracetam so much that I don't even know what happened to the reply to this thread I started. I might be up for that bulk order, are you after the 700g MTGG? If there's a third person that wants one then the price comes down for 3+ of them. Not that I'm tight or anything... any idea if shipping goes up a great deal with weight? I can't be arsed to create an account just to check.
 
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