EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

[Pagey]

Yeah I have plugged it. Stings a fair bit, come-up is as fast as snorted but obviously since you're putting way more up there than if you were snorting it packs quite the punch. That's how I tried it the first time actually and tbh it made me feel edgy the way bad coke does, and 4-FA is noted for its smoothness. Far preferred snorting it (only a couple of days later) to plugged. Haven't tried oral as far as I can remember, what do you mean by "it's pretty bad orally"?

Cool thanks. Might give it a shot just to see, I'd really gotten my hopes up that there was a way to get the same effects without burning a hole through your nose haha. Sucks the report isn't more positive though. Regarding oral, the come-up is quite a bit longer obviously (~15-20mn), the peak isn't nearly as powerful and I found the fact that you kinda build up towards the peak rather than having the full effects in the seconds after snorting to be a big letdown...ie. the whole thing just feels kinda flat and meh.

 

[swampdragon]

..but.. surely it doesn't matter what it's called? It's whether it's any good that's the issue.

 

[Pagey]

Then plugging should be just your thing. As I said, just beware of some GI discomfort. It burns when snorted so extrapolate from there...

Ah right, yes. That can't be so pleasant.

A good cure I found for ANY drug related GI distress when plugging is to plug a bit of coke before-hand. Half a line will do, even less. Just completely numbs the area.

Yup I'm not surprised to hear that. I was thinking of buying lignocaine and to take a line of that before future 4-FA fun but that would surely work with plugging as well. Cheers

 

[Mailmonkey]

Anyone ever tried plugging 4-FA?

yes!

Yeah I have plugged it. Stings a fair bit, come-up is as fast as snorted but obviously since you're putting way more up there than if you were snorting it packs quite the punch. That's how I tried it the first time actually and tbh it made me feel edgy the way bad coke does, and 4-FA is noted for its smoothness. Far preferred snorting it (only a couple of days later) to plugged.

I quite liked the effects of plugging it..i didn't find it that effective snorted.

Then plugging should be just your thing. As I said, just beware of some GI discomfort. It burns when snorted so extrapolate from there...

A good cure I found for ANY drug related GI distress when plugging is to plug a bit of coke before-hand. Half a line will do, even less. Just completely numbs the area.

Yeah, as i said, i liked the effects of plugging it, but it made me need a shit every time. 250mg plugged had good quick hit, but i had to shit within 20 mins so prob didn't absorb all of it, i dunno.

pirate still stings when i snort it, but never makes me need to shit after plugging it.

In the end I found bombing it to be best....but as I said, we used it more a s a "backdrop" for pirate. just something to sustain the quick pirate hits

 

[Pagey]

I quite liked the effects of plugging it..i didn't find it that effective snorted.

Ah! Hope!

Yeah, as i said, i liked the effects of plugging it, but it made me need a shit every time. 250mg plugged had good quick hit, but i had to shit within 20 mins so prob didn't absorb all of it, i dunno.

pirate still stings when i snort it, but never makes me need to shit after plugging it.

In the end I found bombing it to be best....but as I said, we used it more a s a "backdrop" for pirate. just something to sustain the quick pirate hits

Yeah I really didn't have that experience with bombing at all so it might've been the combo for you. You didn't get too much edginess when you plugged the 4-FA then MM?

 

[Mailmonkey]

You didn't get too much edginess when you plugged the 4-FA then MM?

not at all, but stims never make me edgy, apart from "coke" (actual coke is fine) or mdpv (which i just don't fucking "get" at all)

 

[justinsayno]

..but.. surely it doesn't matter what it's called? It's whether it's any good that's the issue.

Names are very important.

For example if 'smear tests' were called 'cunt scrapes' girls would be more reluctant to have them

 

[Pagey]

not at all, but stims never make me edgy, apart from "coke" (actual coke is fine) or mdpv (which i just don't fucking "get" at all)

Ah nice. Alright well, definitely seems worth a try, I'll report back shortly :D

 

[F.U.B.A.R.]

if 'smear tests' were called 'cunt scrapes' girls would be more reluctant to have them

Arf

 

[Marmalade]

names are very important.

For example if 'smear tests' were called 'cunt scrapes' girls would be more reluctant to have them

=d ...

^jebus. why it so difficult to just post a fucking smilie.

FORUM'S GONE TO SHIT

 

[ColtDan]

Havent followed the convo but 4-FA is good

thats all x

 

[Tangerine Dream]

Diclazepam is available now. No idea if it's a 'good' benzo/better than etizolam though...

Also I saw this:

And it's legal... Wonder if it's any good as an opiate, and whether it will become available any time soon given how similar it is to salvinorin A? Interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herkinorin

 

[mydrugbuddy]

ponders; should i get 10 pellets in immediatelly to sample, or wait for the powder.

In the time it took to write that ive decided to try some pelllets, they cant be nay worse than phenazepam, thats for sure.

sample order made, will prob arrive on Wed. Wouldnt it be gret to have a new really good benzo, rather than another damp squid like called pyrazolam.

The jury is out.

Opiate activity too ? I'll have 1kg please.

i dunno how yoy type those scientific symbols, but after the brifest of skim reads that artcle mentioned k and u opiate recptor activity. Dont think ive had my k receptors triggered off before. All excited now, got ANOTHER new toy.

These past few weeks has seen me trying a lot of new stuff, and possibly accounts for some of my mood swings. Apologies to all tjose that ive been a cunt to cos of this.

 

[Tangerine Dream]

ponders; should i get 10 pellets in immediatelly to sample, or wait for the powder.

In the time it took to write that ive decided to try some pelllets, they cant be nay worse than phenazepam, thats for sure.

sample order made, will prob arrive on Wed. Wouldnt it be gret to have a new really good benzo, rather than another damp squid like called pyrazolam.

The jury is out.

Opiate activity too ? I'll have 1kg please.

i dunno how yoy type those scientific symbols, but after the brifest of skim reads that artcle mentioned k and u opiate recptor activity. Dont think ive had my k receptors triggered off before. All excited now, got ANOTHER new toy.

These past few weeks has seen me trying a lot of new stuff, and possibly accounts for some of my mood swings. Apologies to all tjose that ive been a cunt to cos of this.

I might wait for the powder but interested to hear if the pellets are any good Hopefully the phenaz won't taint your experience too much? I hear that shit lasts a long time in your system...

And lol @ damp squid

 

[Pagey]

^If I were you I would go with both 2C-C and 4-FA. Would be godly :D

 

[mydrugbuddy]

my phenazz binging stops tmorrow afternoon. Ive no idea how long the affected brain areas will take to recover, but judging by past experience (and not wishiong to tempt fate) i should be more or less functional and normal in a couple of weeks. I have college open days and stuff coming up then.

good point about the phenaz tainting my system tho, it does have hell of a half life. If the tablets arrive mid week, most of the phenaz should have worn off by then.

 

[Pagey]

Hmmm good idea - throwing the beautiful visuals I get from 2C-C (it's an Incredibly visual psych for me, leaving me otherwise totally lucid if a bit lazy and cuddly) with the empathy of M1 and the speedy kick from both that and 4-FA sounds pretty tasty...
Might throw in the 5-APB to kick the empathy/euphoria into overdrive, plus 5-APB, 2C-C and 4-FA all have pretty similar durations.... Decisions, decisions... Love having new toys to play with

I think that sounds amazing
My best recent combo was 2C-C, 4-FA and 6-APDB (ridiculously moreish though), and it was absolutely fucking awesome....you'd get a similar thing with 5-APB I'd expect, so can't imagine you'd have anything other than a perfect time with added methylone.
Report back if you try it please

 

[Tangerine Dream]

Actually "damp squib" is a metaphor stemming from the pyrotechnic/demolitions industry; not sure if that's what MDB meant though.....

Yeah I laughed at the squid bit

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...-The-top-10-misquoted-phrases-in-Britain.html

The top ten misquotes by British people are as follows:
1) A damp squid (a damp squib)
2) On tender hooks (on tenter hooks)
3) Nip it in the butt (nip it in the bud)
4) Champing at the bit (chomping at the bit)
5) A mute point (a moot point)
6) One foul swoop (one fell swoop)
7) All that glitters is not gold (all that glisters is not gold)
8 ) Adverse to (averse to)
9) Batting down the hatches (batten down the hatches)
10) Find a penny pick it up (find a pin pick it up)

 

[mydrugbuddy]

i thought it was just a phrase for something that was just a bit shit. Glad to raise a smile and a laugh though.

 

[Pagey]

I most definitely will ma chère.

Won't be before 3 weeks though as I need to kick the tramadol I've been on practically daily for 3 months now. Going CT with the aid of therapeutic doses of MXE to keep the zaps and the sweats away. Have only been on 200mg tops so won't be too hard, but I want to be squeaky clean for this experience :D

Do you reckon it's best suited to a club environment or should I stay home with the wifey and appreciate its myriad loveliness effects in intimacy? Going to buy a sound system before I do this also. Been needing one for ages, now it's gone beyond mere want to explicit need

edit = Pagey have you got a trip report/can you comment on how the visuals of 2C-C were impacted by the other drugs, what synergised, what changed, etc.? Tell me more please, you've whet my appetite :D

(TD I'm surprised "wet my appetite" instead of "whet" isn't on the list while we're on topic=

Argh fucks sake my keyboard keeps switching from US to Italian layout at random making punctuation a bitch to deal with...

I didn't write a trip report but I'm certainly happy to comment :D
Took about 40mg of 2C-C and 150mg of 6-APDB orally. It kicked in about 20mn later and the two really complimented each other - the visuals were very much increased (really could see the air moving around me...you know what I mean) and it was just very relaxed and comfortable euphoria. Mostly kinda felt like stronger 2C-C but with a less psychedelic headspace. Also I particularly liked the slight stimminess the 6-APDB added cuz I tend to get a bit tired on 2C-C.
Added a line of 4-FA about an hour in - the visuals kind of disappeared at that point and it was more just simple straightforward (massive) euphoria. Less energy/moving around/bruxism than I would get on 4-FA alone though. So yeah, with the 3 together the 2C-C faded in the background a little and was mostly there to add some body fuzziness/comfort I think. However, after that I kept redosing lines of 6-APDB/4-FA every hour or so and the visuals got to be really quite strong a few hours in...everything very blurry and fuzzy mostly.
Which brings me to my next point, which is that 4-FA and 6-APDB in combo really were ridiculously fiendish and you should be aware of that :D

Honestly if I were you I'd do it at home with your wife...I think it would have been a bit much for a club. Also the 2C-C does make you wanna just chill out and chat. I was at home speaking to friends and wouldn't have changed a thing.
Hope that helps!

Oh and good luck with the tramadol! I'm sure it'll go well

Edit: just thought of something I should probably add...I have a fair few memory blanks from that night which I think come from the 6-APDB and 4-FA combo (I'd expect you'd get that from 5-APB too). Like I would be talking to someone and suddenly realise I'd written the weirdest and most random sentence ever and not have the slightest memory of doing it. Kinda freaky. And another reason to not use in a club environment/around lots of people