EADD: New (or relatively new) RCs - Tweakier and more moreish

[gayorstraight]

Only if they could be bothered getting a warrant to seize your computer to prove you bought a coupld of grams of something dodgy from an overseas vendor. Seems unlikely.

Very true, this is just egging me on to order moar drugs! Hooray

 

[bob_arctor]

Tryptamite: It certainly didn't feel like any 3/4-MMC, x-phenyldate, amphetamine, x-apb or x-FxA drug to me. It was a new feeling - slow come-on (1-2 hours)

Marked raise in temperature, a not very pronounced empathogenic feel, a _very_ nice tactile body high. Clean stimulation at the same time too. System was clear +10 hours. Actually, it felt incredibly good at times - I can see why the people who marketed it claimed things like "well, because of the way we tweaked this 4-methylaminorex analogue, it won't make people want to redose multiple times, thus reducing the _possible_ pulmonary problems". A well-balanced mix of SERT DAT NET activity, but almost a bit too strong at times.... I felt fine the day after - better than after doing 4-FMA or something like that at least, but something about the feeling has made me put this one in the bottom of the drawer. Could be an exotic gem, but with the 5ht2b uncertanties and all that .... nah...

The functional aspect of 4-MAR simply wasn't there, this was Party stuff (well, maybe it could be used in a psychedelic therapeutic situation, but I haven't tested it in those kind of lower dosages, at least not orally).

Hard to say if it really was 4'4-DMAR, but it didn't remind me of any other stimulants I've tried.

It seemed to disappear quickly enough after people started dropping dead in Eastern Europa (whatever it was they really consumed and in what amounts) but I've seen it pop up in powder form at some vendors (none that I have used before though).

 

[justinsayno]

Only if they could be bothered getting a warrant to seize your computer to prove you bought a coupld of grams of something dodgy from an overseas vendor. Seems unlikely.

With a target driven police force its never safe to assume you're too small to bother with.
A bust is a bust.

I have noticed some of the EU vendors have stopped selling illegals to the UK. MXE is the only thing thats really tempted me to try [ didnt appreciate the joy of a low dose or the peace of mind that comes from owning scales till it was too late ]

 

[Funkadelica]

Really wish I could try that 2-FMA.

Anyone else had any kidney problems with 2-FA or any of the FA's? Had about 25mg before I left my flat then another 50 say a couple of hours later. What followed was intense kidney pain on my right side spreading round to my front abdomen and my balls. Had to constantly piss to get rid of the pain, during so I would get intense tingles and shivers. Was horrible and my mates all desperately told me to have a beer or shot of alcohol to see if it helped. I caved in and it helped

 

[Shambles]

Shambles, re: IVing MDAI. Will get to that very soon as I have found a new source for proper IVing needles. Really rather looking forward to it :D. With just a pinch of heroin thrown in for good luck - what do you reckon? Not enough to overwhelm the MD, just to add to the physical lushness... Any point in that?

Personally, I'm a very big fan of opies + phens so go for it. Within reason and all that...

I also use MDPV in functional single doses which makes me some sort of freak

Actually makes you somewhat disturbing. I like you, Knock. Like you a lot. But this casual peev use does make me suspect you are actually not of this Earth and are probably some kinda hybrid species tossed aside at outload by your xenomorphic genelings cos you were a fukkin freak of fukkin nature

In RC news, sampled me 2-FA last weekend. Went down well, Nowt outstanding but felt (and smelled - especially smelled ) like proper oldskool sulphate and had broadly similar effects. Actually cleared and cleaned the living shit outta my living room for the first time since I moved in about a decade ago so... My doses were mostly in the 100-200mg range. Less was a nice tickle. But kinda needed triple digits to really shine. Sore as a motherfukker fukkin a mother with a spiky fanny to sniff. But really not so immediately painful in the grand scheme... Still snotting blood a week later, mind

 

[Shambles]

Yes it will. Not much more to add really.

In alternate flourophet ROA news, tried oral, rectal and IM. All satisfactory but as I started on nasal I kinda craved the instahit so mostly favoured IM (yeah, I know ). Oral was just too slow for me in that circumstance. Rectal was okay but surprisingly lacking in rush

Is the first of the flourophets I've sampled though so still finding my feet...

 

[Shambles]

Varies from person to person obviously. But was kinda midrange in terms of drastic opifaildrug imo, ime, ymmv, etc, etc.

Not as bad as opium, not as less bad as immodium.

Fairly shit but not outrageously shit.

 

[Funkadelica]

You should be drinking a couple of liters of water, not booze, if you're having kidney pains man :/

Anyway can't say I've had any trouble, and I've had nights where I snorted >500mg 4-FA, just boozing on top of it. Now that you've mentioned this I'll take care to drink plenty of water while I'm on it.

Yeah that's the thing I was off the booze for 2 weeks and have only been drinking fizzy water when I've been out with mates. That beer I had during that pain was the first booze I've touched. I don't think my kidneys or bladder like this stuff at all. Just had a 60mg bomb on it's own last night and whilst I never received the same amount of pain there was a touch of uncomfortableness after taking several pisses around the lower half of my body. Went away after 10 minutes or so but something tells me that this isn't good for my body.

Looks like I need to find something else until the 2-FMA becomes available again.

 

[jollypecker]

im waitin for shop to open after hols , I liked the mxe couldn't believe how strong it was , now I want to order mdpv once they reopen along with mxe prob is mdpv is hcl is this smokable also should I leave a day between each ie not dosing both same day?

 

[Shambles]

^ Yes it will be HCl and yes it is smokable. MXE goes nice with it but does somewhat emphasise the removal from consensus reality.

Just confirming this for posterity. Woke up today feeling like I was -48 hours away from totally kicking. For 2 lines that I barely felt, it was Not Worth It at all. Still, not outrageously shit so not cursing myself. Just nursing my sores in bed with valium and tramadol and doing a bit of writing, and it's all good. I'd say 3/10 on the WD scale.

Sounds about right. The more w/d you go through the quicker they come and the shiter they are. Imo, ime, ymmv, etc, etc.

 

[bob_arctor]

What's the consensus for the best functional RC stimulant with low dose dexy/rit effects, e.g very foxused and productive, without much if any kinda feindishness? Someone mentioned 2fa earlier but i've heard thats morish, are there any good ones? Hows low dose eph? Or should i just stick with modafinil

I'd say cycle modafinil with 2-FA (and amphetamine harm reduction supplements). 2-FA for me feels more more:ish than 2-FMA, but there really isn't any feeling of recreational stimulation to it at all in "functional" doses - and as long as you take it oral, it's a super-smooth ride. 2-FMA for me is good as well, but has way more vasoconstriction (to the point that it worries me) and tends to cloud my mind more (especially if snorted or plugged).

 

[Shambles]

I didn't find 2-FA massively moreish by stim standards. Quite the opposite really. Got through a gramme over 24h but didn't feel the need to rush at it. Pleasant stuff. Closest to oldskool phet I've come across.

Did absolutely frikkin ruin my nose though. Didn't even hurt that bad by RC standards but still snotting blood over a week later now

 

[bob_arctor]

I didn't find 2-FA massively moreish by stim standards. Quite the opposite really. Got through a gramme over 24h but didn't feel the need to rush at it. Pleasant stuff. Closest to oldskool phet I've come across.

I totally agree - I only meant in comparison with 2-FMA. 2-FA might be more enjoyable than, say, Ritalin, but the urge to redose isn't that much bigger. Hardly 4-MMC or MDPV material, just a very well-balanced stim

(on the other hand 1 gram lasted 2 months for me, so I might not have sampled the full nature of 2-FA yet! And if I'm going to, I might as well stock up, seeing as 2-FA - along with 3-FA/2-FMA/4-FMA and a bunch of NBOME:s - becomes illegal in my country on aug 1)

 

[Shambles]

Hehe. 2-FA has been illegal in this country from the time I was a toddler or thereabouts. As long as it's legal somewhere in the world (and/or somebody somewhere gives nary a shit about drug laws) iz all good :D

 

[foolsgold]

Warning time had something on Saturday called synth not sure as to what's in it got told by the guy who gave it me it was most likely mixed cathinones but got a feeling it's pma 200 mg and I could of torn some one it two without thinking once the adrenaline rush was over I could clearly feel my brain was on empty and I was not far off oding

Please not start with the lectures on taking things when I don't what they are as I've had a rough time this weekend as it is n slit my arms up again closest I've been cutting them in years lovely scar in the making and more nerve damage in my left arm most likely

 

[RLP]

Hello.

Can someone tell me out of the following list what I should or shouldn't mix with 6-APB:

EPH, CFA, MDMA, MXE, NEK, AMT, MDAI.

Thanks. X

 

[knock]

Not sure about safety but MDMA and AMT would probably overpower it.

 

[RLP]

AMT floored me on it's own (and not in a nice way) so you're probably right on that one.

Feeling I need to give the 6-APB a bit of a kick beyond red bull, as well as having a weird fucker experience up my sleeve for later on, hence the inclusion of MXE/NEK.

 

[Shambles]

aMT big no-no. SS innit. MDMA doable. Probably lushy as fuck. But watch yer doses cos will be intense. MDAI should be very nice but will be mongy as fuck. MXE I'd probably save until the end... but would no doubt be fun anyway. NEK I have no clue about. Thought it was supposed to be wank? CFA, EPH - would be shite. Dirty stims would just make it feel rough. For perks I'd go for one of the FA/FMA jobbies I reckon. Or just plain ol' speed.

 

[Mercc96]

2-FMA is defiently one of the best functional stimulants I've ever come across. Does anyone know what happened to the 4-MAR analogue that was supposed to be popping up sometime in the future? I think 4-EAR got shelved so I'm not sure.