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^ or anything UK legal thats in that family, dont think the ban left any wriggle room though.
I read the legal stuff just after the ban but TBH the chemistry side of it went over my head.

The fact that nobody has come up with a replacement probably says it all though
 
I did hear a rumour that new UK legal arylcyclohexylamines are on the way but am not holding my breath.

I really like 3-MeO-PCP but it is certainly fairly similar to MXE. Has a more manic edge to it which I quite like. Would probably choose it over MXE if the price was a bit closer but it ain't so is but an occasional treat at most.
 
hmm, for me, 2fma give quite little tolerance even with consecutive day use. however, i use it like that very very seldom (perhaps a couple of consecutive days every other month or more). also, for me, an oral dose of 2fma taken at 5pm will allow me to sleep by 12pm... perhaps its just a case of varying milage or something

3-meo-pcp i like more than mxe.. theres something about mxe that just doesnt click with me. but im not a big fan of dissasociatives in general and perhaps the little degree of dissasociation that low doses of 3meo provide is just right for me. i also like the fact that it is seemingly less serotoninergic than mxe

anyone heard of 2MA? (CAS 5580-32-5)...
 
I'm a massive pussy when it comes to taking drugs (in so much as I won't touch them) as Shambles/knock will attest to, so won't be pushing anything too hard.
 
pontifex01 said:
Shambles already gave (me) the thumbs up for phens + opis so you should be allright... Don't mean to sound like I'm boasting but when I hit the crack I hit it rather hard so what may be true for me may not be true for you...
Worst issue I can foresee is nausea. Codeine makes me vomit like a cunt, far, far more than smack.
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u gonna try mxe for tolerance buddy?
 
Who is familiar with pentedrone? Utter shit in my opinion, but over here in the USA 4-methyl-pentadrone has been getting some real good feedback. I've not yet tried it, but those who have say it beats 4-mec and 4-fa out of the water. More like m1 or 4-mmc, neither of which I've tried but I know those are 2 tried and true chems right there.
 
RLP said:
Hello.

Can someone tell me out of the following list what I should or shouldn't mix with 6-APB:

EPH, CFA, MDMA, MXE, NEK, AMT, MDAI.

Thanks. X
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There've been some troubling reports about combining MXE and 6-APB. They appear to potentiate each other, though nobody can really say how/why. MXE combines very badly (for some people) with a number of serotonergics... and very nicely for some other people.

APB and MDMA is quite intense, but it's also quite rough on the heart, and for that reason I'd take care. AMT and MDMA is also an intense combination but again, this is probably down to potentiation so caution is advised.


Recently got my hands on some 3-MeO again for a semi-reasonable price and it's just as beautiful as I remember it being <3. So much so that I wrote it a poem, it's in the Words subforum if anyone interested xD
 
What happened with the 4-MAR analogue? Did it get taken off the market or something? Still a bit surprised that there isn't more methamphetamine in the country yet.
 
I too want aminorex analogues. Also phenmetrazine analogues. And more methamphetamine. Is it really asking too much?
 
Diclazepam Powder - in stock at xxxxxxxxx early August!

What are we calling it? 2'-chlorodiazepam? Clorazepam? Diclazepam? 1-methyl-Delorazepam?!

Looks like "Diclazepam" anyway and powder will be in stock 1-2 weeks.


what are they fucking about with this shit for, cant they just get some more etizolam ? (to answer my own question it seems not, and its gonna have to be a EU buy for me now- ive waited long enough for them to get their arse in gear now)

how can anyone serioisly consider naming someting diclazpepam. You're not gonna tell your mate down the pub what youve taken if thats the moniker it gets.




Fuckin 'ell it actually sounds like it could be good

What is Diclazepam?

Diclazepam is a PAM (positive allosteric modulator) of the benzodiazepine receptors, specifically the ‘diazepam sensitive’ sites. It was developed by a team at Hoffmann-La Roche lead by Leo Sternbach (US Patent 3136815).

What Diclazepam used for?

In theory and our In-Virto experiments we found it to have anxiolytic (central receptors) and muscle-relaxant (peripheral receptors) properties.

The chlorine groups also allows the generation of radioisotopes via thermal neutron activation thus producing convenient radioactive tracers that provide a low-cost methodology of studying the benzodiazepine site in in-vitro studies.

Diclazepam's affinity values are calculated as:

α1 2.51 ±0.25

α2 3.42 ±0.19

α3 4.02 ±0.19

α5 5.13 ±0.19

Any one know what those numbers mean with regards to its potentcy etc ?

the pellets are already available.
 
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Anyone ever tried plugging 4-FA? (ponti?) I've been snorting it so far but it tends to keep half my face throbbing and bloody for two days afterwards :| and I thought it was pretty bad orally so was wondering if anyone could compare the intensity when it comes to plugging vs. snorting? / time to come up, rush etc. Thanks :)
 
pontifex01 said:
What's wrong with the name? Are drugs supposed to sound cool? Like the dickheads who dealt MXE when it first came out calling it "Rhino Ket" pffft.
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thats the 2 extremes there. i m obviously noy gong to be a fan of names that seem to aimed at 11 year olds - rhinoket LMFAO, but diclapaepam, doesnt take much imagination to think of the piss taking an innuendo that gonna come your way should you mentiom you have any.

I mean does the first syllable have to have the same meaning as the word "idiot" for example, that jusyt one of my reasons. Same as saying ive got some twatezpepam really ?

People would think you were a dic or a twat just for taking things with such names. Nobody drinks beer called "knobhead" do they (AFAIK) the fuckin real ale CAMRA bunch might very well do.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
thats the 2 extremes there. i m obviously noy gong to be a fan of names that seem to aimed at 11 year olds - rhinoket LMFAO, but diclapaepam, doesnt take much imagination to think of the piss taking an innuendo that gonna come your way should you mentiom you have any.

I mean does the first syllable have to have the same meaning as the word "idiot" for example, that jusyt one of my reasons. Same as saying ive got some twatezpepam really ?

People would think you were a dic or a twat just for taking things with such names. Nobody drinks beer called "knobhead" do they (AFAIK) the fuckin real ale CAMRA bunch might very well do.
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=D

Well, if introduced to the compound as a relative of 'die-azz-ae-pam' one would probably pronounce it as "die-clazz-ae-pam"

Similarly, I always chuckle when people refer (to hydromorph) as "d's". Obviously its a simple abbreviation of a brand, but it still does.

If you're still worked up about it, have a diclaz.
 
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