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EADD: New (and less new) RCs - steric hindrance and vestigial rituals

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I think people are being at a bit rude to this one, its the worst of the benzofurans i've tried for sure that being said 100mg sent to a fairly pleasant place with minimal side effects.

I think i rate all seretonergic stimulant types to well though due to having had sooo many terrible experiences with Piperazines.

Thia combined with entering today with zero tolerance probably made it better than it really is.


Saying that it's garbage though is a bit strong if you ask me, its just not as good as most of the previous analogues.
 
Anyone know the dose of 2-FA? is it stronger than 4-FA? ive noticed its slightly more expensive
 
ColtDan: I've usually used it at 20-30 mg as a functional stim, but this is probably lower than most other people would use recreationally. I don't think I'd like the experience of taking as much of it as I prefer with 4-FA (100-150 mg).
 
Mental Kenny said:
LOL%)

RCs are the most glorious invention since the internet and sushi.

I like being a guinea pig, knowing that I'm taking something most of the world's drug users aren't even aware of. It's brilliant.

Still we also need the old warriors waiting on street corners for their traditional drugs smuggled on goats on hilltop trails in central Asia, I find both things equally fascinating, the hippie with a science degree in some university lab in California developing new analogues, the ruthless Chinese businessman having his minions synth it, the drug nerds trying them while posting on here, it's marvellous. As is the mental image of the Afghan farmers, dressed in their traditional clothes, cutting their poppies, high up the mountains with some breathtaking views...It's all good, we're all part of the same family, drugs is one thing where class is completely irrelevant
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Great, love that post :D

ColtDan - 2-FA is stronger as a pure stim but produces little euphoria. For parties 4-FA is easily the best of all FAs. 2-FA is more likely to be useful as a studyworkaid. 4- is not useful at that.
 
Ah okay. i was thinking about mixing them

Is there music enhancement on 2-FA? cant decide what to order
 
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little if any music enhancement with 2fa. also, it has a cieling effect, in that for me at least, anything above 50mg doesnt bring anything more to the table.
it goes well enough for a night out with some booze on top, but its not a party drug in my book to be put on the same page with 4fa.
 
Going over 50mg certainly brought more to the table for me. It does depend on what you are looking for though. I like my stimulation full-on and sweaty. I've only had the one gramme so far and started off fairly cautiously at around the 30-50mg (sniffed - but I wouldn't really recommend snorting as, although not too painful at the time, I was snotting blood for a week afterwards). At that level it was basically "functional" - I found myself almost automatically starting to potter about tidying stuff which is always a good sign. As the day went on the lines got bigger and full-on sweatiness was achieved. Gramme lasted me a day starting in the morning and had the last of it sometime that night. I am a fiend though.

Don't think I listened to music but mainly cos I was doing other stuff and never thought to put any on. Straight stims don't tend to have the same kind of intrinsic music enhancement as something like 4-FA, MDMA or 6-APDB but that doesn't mean that music sounds bad on 'em, just that you tend to be distracted and caught up with other stuff. 2-FA is very much a straight stim - not like 4-FA at all. As I've said before, it's as close as you could ever wish to get to good quality speed which makes it a bit of a winner for those of us who bemoan the state of most street speed in this country. I'm a fan <3
 
Bought a g of it

Same here i like full on stim. speed and meph get me rushy. meph got a bit over the top though
 
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^ If you like speed then you'll almost certainly like 2-FA. Simple as that really. Not so much meph though as 2-FA doesn't have any of the serotonin-soaked headmush stuff that meph has.

babylonboy said:
For straight stims, reading is way beter than music anyway.
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I went with the traditional cleaning and tidying binge. And greatly needed it was too. Got loads done - me lil cave is more or less acceptably presentable now. As long as you don't stray too far from the tour guide :o
 
Looking forward to it

I reckon the 2-fa and 4-fa combined will be similar to meph if i dose it right. perhaps without that awful comedown

Meph used to get me so full on ecstatic
 
Initially I found it totally compulsive on the redosing front which didn't go so well. Got the comedown from Hell and the redoses stop doing much of anything beyond extending the residual stimulation after a while anyway. Last gramme I got I managed to control the redosing and kept it within 2-3 over a night (~500mg in total) and it was much better. Got proper effects and no nasty comedown. If you can keep a lid on the excessive redosing it's a much better experience overall.
 
Redose once and leave it at that tbh. Consecutive redoses get increasing 'uurrrgh', if you know what I mean. Nausea gets pretty bad in the late stages too. First time I did 4-FA I ended up puking the next day, and I was so dehydrated that my puke was solid and waterless. Really unpleasant heaving up a foodball like that, so lay off the redoses and drink plenty of water ;) Enjoy!
 
god you lot are so lucky that you can do that I can I redoes till its all gone be it a few 100mg to 5 10 20 grams no shit ive gone through 25g of mpa with not stopping before now two weeks non stop just blacked out for a few hours which would count as sleep I guess but hit the foil the nose straight off
 
Boshed 40 mg of 5-IAP / IAP /whatever the fuck they're deciding to call this stuff. Technically not a new drug that's for sure, but probably unknown enough to qualifiy for this thread (if not, fuck it, i was born off tangent). Anyway, i read a couple of reports off erowid that looked like they had been written by a couple of dudes that had done less than 5 drugs in their entire lifetime, between the pair of them! (apologies if these reports were written by any of you lovely people under yet purther alias, but then these were from like 5 years ago so who gives a fuck). Anyway, gotta admit the 40mg is feeling kinda strong. Its a funny kind of drug so far (only dropped like an hour ago, right before a massive fry up - something that is starting to look progressively more like a bad idea), not a straight stim, not a psychedelic either. I'm not a drinker anymore, thank god, but right now its got that early stage mdma kinda vibe to it where you kinda feel like a few shots of the good stuff would straighten you out. Definitely a little edgey. Physically not psychological. Be interesting to see how this one pans out over the next hour as it has clearly yet to fully cut loose. Interesting stuff though that's for sure.
 
foolsgold said:
god you lot are so lucky that you can do that I can I redoes till its all gone
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It's been a very recent change for me to be able to step away from the drugs whilst any remain. And still very much a work in progress. I don't want to even think about the state I got myself into the first time I tried 4-FA, and as for my lil thing for MDPV... It is possible to address and change compulsive and addictive behaviour but it's certainly not easy. Just gotta take it one step at a time, I think. Chip away at problems and at some point they become more manageable. At least that's what I'm trying to do. I think.
 
@ foolsgold - thanks for the link much appreciated

@ shambles - That's some real welcome HR philosophy i hear coming through that i can relate to a lot. It fucking kills me that i let things get so bad over the course of the last 3 years or so, given that prior to that i had managed to sustain more or less a 2 year run of surprisingly controlled drug use. We all got our different ways when it comes to the details but for me its the big picture that's all important. What i'm getting from you, and i generalise this to other recent threads we posted on as well, is that never throw in the towel mentality. Believe in yourself that a certain level of control can be found, eventually, and once you found it you can find it again. I sort of wanna stress this from a personal point as well because i hear people all the time saying that they wish they had the self control to sit in a house full of drugs all day and not use them. My answer always is "you do"! "you just don't know it yet". I never knew that shit was possible until i did it for the first time. That's all the difference between me and them. I know that if i've done it before its possible. Its a question of self believe more than anything. That's my 2 cents worth anyways..

One crucial thing in my book though, ( and make no mistake i'm not writing this to anyone in particular, especially as i have a fair grasp of the levels of hardcore possessed by the two guys that just happen to be in my vicinity right now in this thread,) drugs is like a job, its not a vacation. I think we all forget that sometimes. When you get in that kid in the candy store frame of mind its fucking over, if not next week, then 3 months down the line when you hope to god you actually make it to rehab. No, its like a job. You gotta work hard at it. There's no free lunch. And all clean time is points in the bank. Wake up one morning, don't feel great, don't feel shit, -DON'T reach for any drugs. Just watch some shit on poisenous snakes on poo tube or whatever. You can do drugs in the afternoon. That won't erase the 4 hours you went without drugs that you normally wouldn't have. Some people like me really hate clean days. I'd rather do 4 half days clean a week than 2 full days. And in my humble opinion the books balance out roughly the same. Each to his own.
 
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