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EADD: New (and less new) RCs - steric hindrance and vestigial rituals

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It is very good advice and I must start being a little less reckless...mostly I have always done as Knock so rightly says but sometimes you make assumptions it's the same as last order or you say fuck it. Gotta stop eyeballing too that is daft but I have massive problems calibrating or "collaborating" (as I stated to someone yesterday...and yes I have watched that handy youtbe vid...just bloody things piss me off. Note to self buy better and easier to use scales..if anyone has a make/model that is twit proof please do pm me.8)
 
Well it's all stuff I learnt from BL so I can't take the credit :) It irks me that other people aren't learning it though.
 
Nice post and a timely reminder, Knock :)

I'm not going to even pretend that I do that stuff - can't think of a single occasion when I have - but that doesn't mean anything other than I've gotten away with it so far. As Knock points out, people who die or suffer serious consequences as a direct result of unforseen errors like mislabelled chemicals, tainted batches of drugs, dramatic variations in purity and so on also most likely got away with it every time. Until that time they didn't. Accidents happen and not just at the user's end of things.

I totally get the complacency thing cos I have been totally complacent. It's true that tragic accidents like the bromo-dragonfly incident are thankfully incredibly rare, but they only have to happen once to seriously ruin your day. Perhaps permanently. It does sound kinda dramatic but that would be because it really is life and death stuff when it comes down to it.

I, like so many of us, tend to want to just dive in to the Goodies almost before the package has hit the doormat. I'm getting a bit better at impulse control but the measures suggested could possibly be done over the course of a day at a push. Obviously if you take your time that's even better. It should be quite possible to order whatever it is you are wanting in time to allow for allergy testing and dose titration in the manner Knock describes. Given the variety and increasing popularity and availability of uberpotent RCs out there these days - the aforementioned bromo-dragonfly, the NBOMe series, fentanyl analogues and so on - it seems to me there is more chance for mistakes to happen somewhere along the way between lab and end user. Even those of us (yes, that includes me) who have been at it for years and are as complacent as it gets really should be taking steps to ensure that what we ordered is what is on the label is what is in the baggie.
 
foolsgold said:
ive got better since this place but not alot but im slowly learning
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I'm fairly sure that applies to all of us, FG. Certainly does me anyway. Many of us will have a lifetime of bad habits behind us and I know what I thought about some of the HR advice when I first came across it. It can seem over the top because most of us don't see the consequences when things go wrong. Incidents as serious as the bromo-dragonfly one are very rare events but they do happen and when they do it's not like there's any warning until it's too late. Yes word will usually get out that there is a rogue batch or whatever the problem is but there's no guarantee you would see the warning in time, and obviously somebody (or most likely several people) are going to be unfortunate enough to be the people that the warning is referring to who got to find out first hand :\

It really just comes down to changing those bad habits. If we'd all been introduced to drugs using these basic HR techniques it'd seem completely nuts if anybody suggested doing otherwise. If HR standards are going to be improved across the wider society it has to start somewhere and if more experienced users can learn to change their drug-taking ways to safer drug-taking ways then anybody can.
 
foolsgold said:
is that a hint knock :)
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haha why yes it is exactly what I had in mind when I chided you for boshing 1 gram of whatever chemical it was you got on Saturday :) But this latest rant wasn't aimed at you specifically.

Also worth bearing in mind that just because you're not getting any nice effects from a drug doesn't mean it's not going to kill you or fuck your kidneys or destroy a chunk of your brain or whatever. Poisons do all those things without being very enjoyable :D
 
doesn't help coming back from the doctors after al these years abusing my body to get its ok nothing wrong to make you feel superhuman like fuck it i can and have taken anything :)

I remember when i joined get fucked off at people kicking of because i was taking 200mg lines one up each nostril of a certain stim and get told to fuck off for trolling and the likes
 
foolsgold said:
I remember when i joined get fucked off at people kicking of because i was taking 200mg lines one up each nostril of a certain stim and get told to fuck off for trolling and the likes
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its because the board is full of, and run by middle-class rc fanboys with pages and pages of alphabet-soup checklists for hundreds of shite drugs, each more alike than the last. posh boys cant do drugs properly
 
Eh and also frequented by girls/women too of all social standings don't forget 8) I would never do an RC again if I could get decent/any MDMA, speed and coke that was not 99% lidocaine and paracetamol in this goddamn part of nowhere sticksville. Never even touched an RC knowingly untill I moved out of the big smoke 5 years ago. Just saying like ;)
 
2-[bis(4-fluorophenyl)methyl]sulfinylethanehydroxamic acid or CRL-40,941

CRL-40,941 is a new research chemical closely related to adrafinil and modafinil. It is the bis(p-fluoro) ring-substituted derivative of adrafinil, interesting as ive heard you lt singing the praises of modafinil
 
BlindHelperMonkey said:
its because the board is full of, and run by middle-class rc fanboys with pages and pages of alphabet-soup checklists for hundreds of shite drugs, each more alike than the last. posh boys cant do drugs properly
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LOL%)

RCs are the most glorious invention since the internet and sushi.

I like being a guinea pig, knowing that I'm taking something most of the world's drug users aren't even aware of. It's brilliant.

Still we also need the old warriors waiting on street corners for their traditional drugs smuggled on goats on hilltop trails in central Asia, I find both things equally fascinating, the hippie with a science degree in some university lab in California developing new analogues, the ruthless Chinese businessman having his minions synth it, the drug nerds trying them while posting on here, it's marvellous. As is the mental image of the Afghan farmers, dressed in their traditional clothes, cutting their poppies, high up the mountains with some breathtaking views...It's all good, we're all part of the same family, drugs is one thing where class is completely irrelevant
 
I haven't really done any pyrovalerone cathinones since when MDPV first showed up. MDPV and alpha-PPP are the only ones I've done - even with my stamp collector mentality I haven't really felt tempted to check out if the follow-ups turned out to be worthwhile. Now I ended up with a sample of 4-fluoro-alpha-PVP, and from reading user reports there seem to be a chasm between the "garbage, just throw it away" and the "wow, much better than 2-methylamphetamine or even 2-fa.... it's like good coke first, then good 'phet!" crowd.

At first I thought this either reflected the standards of non-Swedish RC users vs Swedish ones ("Ooh, a new RC! I think I'll start by IV:ing about, umm, 800 mg, do you guys think that's a good starting dose?"), or possibly between people who responded to MDPV with a "meh" (like me) and the hardcore stimfreaks who got instantly hooked on the rush (of the 300 people who were involved in non-fatal MDPV overdoses last year in Sweden, a very high percentage suffered from hepatitis C, long time drug addicts).

So, now I'm asking here, anyone got experience with this? I don't really expect to particulariy like it, but still, I'm curious.
 
Yeah that echoes my thoughts on mebroqualone, except that vaping it also made my nose bleed.
 
ooh oh oh er bromo dragonfly? 4-bromoamphetamine? brephedrone?

ah I give up.
 
Shambles said:
I still always manage to get through however much of it I bought and end up wishing I'd not bothered.
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You know like when you eat to much chocolate and it makes you a bit sick on xmas day.

my2c on 'Shitalin' EPH.

i have dosed it 3 times, twice oral at 50mg + 50mg booster.

and at these above pussycat suzed doses i found it to be exaxctly what it ought to be, a mild stimulant with few side effects........ a bit like its american cousin ritalin.

and then today 50mg oral and 170mg insufllated which provided some rush, but, not anything to write home about.
I wouldn't use it to get high, there's mush better options available for doing work though aint so bad,


Also has a low dose 5-EAPB experience today. 50mg and then a further 50mg bout an hour or so later.

Surprisingly strong effects and i can see how that TR of the 5 lads on 135mg which is just nigh on unreadable but a great bit of journalism.
full report in TR section, bit of a bore but it was low dose chilling out day so...

Will be trying again.
 
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