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there are some shite ones, but also at least one extremely good one, that is virtually my one stop shop for everything. If they ever get taken down it'll be panic stations at mdb central as i have come to rely on them. I have dozens of other vendors bookmarked, but i prefer sticking to the one that has gained my trust.
 
ColtDan said:
I used to love 6-APB, amazing stuff. started giving me headaches through and lasted a bit too long
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Those benzo fury pills were lethal, never did get the powder in. Can anyone remember the name of the green powder that was similar to this but got banned along with the 6 apb real soon after it came out?
 
Losing a trusted vendor is a kick in the nuts. No-one will ever be able to fill the WLRC-shaped hole in my life.

JGG/Jolly Green Granules, no?
 
mydrugbuddy said:
4mec was allways shit, whether it was uk pre ban or european post ban. It just had so much to live up to, its hype promised so much, but the substance itself did little more than keep you awake at night. One of the most shit substances ever invented, i just cannot understand why it's so popular, or why so many vendors tried to sell it at least.

Your Chinese theory about the reason for the lack of proper mephedrone is very interesting. There was talk about Indian labs starting to make it a year or 2 ago, i dont know what became of that. Presumably very little as there hasnt been any 'shock waves' of excitement, non that have reached me at least.
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AFAIK all meph is now made by the Indian labs. And they use a different process to the Chinese. And the process the Chinese used produced a small (10% or less) by-product which, through luck maybe more than judgement, just happened to synergise with the meph and give it the euphoric kick everyone loved. Now the process is changed there is no pre-ban meph. Although arguably what you get now is more 100% mephedrone.

F&B told me this.

And of course it begs the question why the fuck won't the Indians just use the Chinese process? I don't know.
 
I imagine it's the same synth, just the Chinese are cowboys, so they use technical grade reagents, which are ~90% pure. It's thought the tech grade 4-methylated precursor they used contained the 3-methylated isomer as a significant impurity. So, when you perform the reaction, all the 4-methylated precursor ends up as 4-MMC (meph). The 3-methylated impurity undergoes the same process, and as you'd expect, also forms a methcathinone, 3-MMC. That's the theory, anyway. So, if this is the case, then buying some 3-MMC (which is widely available) and mixing it in about a 1:9 ratio with your clean Indian 4-MMC should give you the old skool tusheng peng drone.

Disclaimer: Don't actually do this. Just SWIM's theoretical musings.

Pretty sure JGG was mephedrone wasn't it?
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I think that was established, yeah. A lot of branded shit that popped up in the wake of the Great Meph Ban was actually just meph being shifted on the sly. Still, it's the only green powder (:|) I can recall being sold.
 
Yeah but

1) I followed one of your chemistry posts for the first time ever

2) It makes theoretical sense. Let's do it.
 
Thanks for the 'in the know' bit of info.

Maybe its like Breaking Bad and they need teaching how to do it. As to why the fuck the relevant chinese people havent done the business with the relevant indian people is a question i dont think any one can answer. The money such a team could create doesnt seem to be a sufficient incentive. There seems to be some kind of worldwide complete lockdown on it, which is quite some achievement, simillar to the odt situation (except thats simply a big pharma patent issue apparently).
 
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babylonboy said:
buying some 3-MMC (which is widely available) and mixing it in about a 1:9 ratio with your clean Indian 4-MMC should give you the old skool tusheng peng drone.
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i tried saying something simillar a while ago but because i didnt have anything to back it up, (like knowledge of chemistry) i couldnt get any credibilty for that type of statement.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Apparently the european MXE is fine too. I havent personally tried it as i dont get through very much MXE.
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Aye, the MXE available now from the EU is, in my opinion, way better than the stuff before the ban. The 6-APB is from the same place and I would expect the quality to be their usual high standard.

I suppose there is only one way to find out. Might grab some 4-FA as well, the talk of it in that speed thread has given me a craving for it and it's also been a while.
 
Better than before the ban?? amazing, gonna have to get some. used to love that weird twisted stuff. the afterglows were amazing. but the batches got a bit shit

6-APB is so expensive. good value though if i remember correctly as one small-ish dose would last all night. 100mg or something

Feeling good off this 200mg of 4
 
got my gram of Pyrophenerone coming hopefully in the morning or monday most likely the morning though buzzing all ready going to be a real pioneer with this one only 50 of us are getting it :)
 
ColtDan said:
Better than before the ban?? amazing, gonna have to get some. used to love that weird twisted stuff. the afterglows were amazing. but the batches got a bit shit

6-APB is so expensive. good value though if i remember correctly as one small-ish dose would last all night. 100mg or something

Feeling good off this 200mg of 4
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The stuff I have now sends me on a right trip. Lying on the bed, eyes closed and locked into some sort of space chair, catapulted into space and on a twisty journey through different places and self-exploration. Stuff before the ban never gave me such things. These are slightly higher doses, but the lower still gives me a hell of a lot of introspection and confidence. Afterglows are still typical MXE amazing.

I would definitely recommend seeing that you liked the stuff before.

Yeah the 6-APB is a bit more expensive I have to say. Gone off MDMA though and seeking something a bit more on a refreshing side. Been ages since the last few 6-APB experiences. Might do a 4-FA combo with it as well.
 
foolsgold said:
going to be a real pioneer with this one only 50 of us are getting it :)
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Pioneer or guinea pig? I mean I can understand your excitement but please do the HR thing of starting off at a very low dose, waiting a good while before redosing, and gradually increasing your doses. Don't need any more RIP threads. This goes for all 50 of you.
 
come on knock this is me you're talking to the guy who when trying to couldn't even kill his self :) but thank you for worrying yoyo50 says its 40 mg to 60 mg vaped to get a buzz going so il start out with half a gram up me nose lol :) no i'll start low for once promise
 
What even is it? Does anyone have a systematic name or any kind of formula? Is it just a random branded chemical? There's loooads of MDPV analogues available, what's so hot about this one?
 
foolsgold said:
i wasnt saying that but not all eu vendors are the dogs bollocks some are scum *no vendor names* for one nothing but bad review after bad review crap drugs and scam after scam
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Aint that the same as UK vendors? There are at least 4 gems with top notch products & service that have been around since the early days i can list off the top of my head, and really with a site like safeorscam.com (NOT sourcing knock don't worry), there are no excuses for using the shit ones.
 
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