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EADD Heroin thread v.XXIV -- welcome back, PinkPapaver!

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Private doc monthly pick up - if you have no methadone in your blood for at least 2 weeks ,more is better, then rapid detox is easy and painless done it tons of times.
 
Not hard to grasp....I see a private Doc who issues me a script that allows me to collect all my meds monthly (methadone and valium). RE Rapid detox most people dont realise that if you jump straight from heroin to methadone and very importantly not have taken any methadone for at least 2 weeks (the longer the better as the 1/2 life is so long) you can taper down rapidly as i have done numerous times normally starting with 60/70mgs then dropping 5mg a day. I normally get down to 10mg then by then i normally cave but to get to zero I would go 10mg,8mg,6mg,4mg,2mg,1mg then stop. A few sleepless nights but not hard WD's
 
That post about how you come off the green slime is worth..........well something very important I know that much.
I mean it blondin that post to me will save me a lot of issues, thanks for that & it is times when you come across stuff like that it makes BL worth it.
 
blondin said:
Not hard to grasp....I see a private Doc who issues me a script that allows me to collect all my meds monthly (methadone and valium). RE Rapid detox most people dont realise that if you jump straight from heroin to methadone and very importantly not have taken any methadone for at least 2 weeks (the longer the better as the 1/2 life is so long) you can taper down rapidly as i have done numerous times normally starting with 60/70mgs then dropping 5mg a day. I normally get down to 10mg then by then i normally cave but to get to zero I would go 10mg,8mg,6mg,4mg,2mg,1mg then stop. A few sleepless nights but not hard WD's
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so you have to go without heroin and meth for 2 weeks then start the meth? What are you supposed to do in the 2 weeks what's the different from this and just quitting or taking a tolerance break I'm still kind of new to opiates :)
 
Just finished off my b for today, got a real itch on atm.
The last few days the stuff had really dropped in quality but my main man has had to cut his prices as everyone else is doing 2 for £15 & he was losing trade, his white is really good too.
My whole body feels like I got ants walking over me & I keep getting weird looks for having a good scratch, only if they knew what is actually up with me!!!

I'm still kind of new to opiates
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Pete556 if you are kinda new to them my advice is WALK AWAY RIGHT NOW while you still got the ability & can post a comment like that. I never like to tell people what to do & I know opiates aren't as bad as people try to make out right? You can get high for a few days & not get sick, everyone always made out how addictive they are & you were thinking how much shit people talk about them.

Please mate don't go messing with them, it comes up slow on you & you'll be sick before you even know you got a habit, it took me several years to get addicted, you'll wake up one morning & have to run to the toilet as the poo will come outta you like a hosepipe, start to sneeze so strong it hurts your nose, sweat so you gotta change your t-shirt 4 times a day, body feels like you been run over, no sleep etc etc.............

I mean this & I swear upon all the dogs souls I have had & loved, this family of dope is bad stuff, the effect upon you will be equal to a mdpv addict that vapes it, heroin & potent opiates come upon you really slowly so you are in real trouble by the time you show ANY sign of addiction, if I could go back in time I would never have started with them.
 
Just been and gone and scored some gear, ending a nine-week break. I've had too many "head-requiring" activities on my plate lately even to think about a proper session. Work has been going absolutely mental just lately; the combination of my bosS's chutzpah and my ability to do for a shilling what any fool could do for a pound is proving world-conquering. (We have already managed to uncover one particular issue with someone else's expensive, proprietary equipment that could simply never have worked, ever; but due to the way the network dynamically reroutes things to bypass faults, everything else mostly managed to disguise the fact that there even was a problem in the first place. In engineering terms, it's just the application of controlled negative feedback improving stability at the cost of requiring more headroom. Applying negative feedback to an amplifier by feeding a portion of the output, inverted so it goes negative when the input is positive and negative when the input is positive, back to the input reduces the gain but means you end up using a smaller portion of the output\input curve, minimising distortion; applying negative feedback -- in the shape of dynamic self-rerouting -- to a network requires more nodes and more connections to provide enough possible alternative routes. Anyway, the only way to be able to demonstrate the problem was by connecting something else to it, that was more reliable than it. The other 21 999 or so people affected by it could have missed out the broken piece of kit on the next connection attempt; or, if they were really unlucky, the one after that.)
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@Pete556 -- if you're still not going to take "no" for an answer, at least remember: I (only one data point, ufortunately) only started getting into trouble with heroin once I took it for actual pain as opposed to purely recreationally. That was where the fiending really began in earnest. When I did my back in helping a friend lay a laminate floor, it seemed perfectly logical to dash out for a gram just until I was heaking a bit ..... and then my stash started running low and I was sweating, till by evening I was straight back on the train heading for the RVP. And again, when my soulmate, my dearest friend in the world, passed away.
 
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Just finished off my b for today, got a real itch on atm.
The last few days the stuff had really dropped in quality but my main man has had to cut his prices as everyone else is doing 2 for £15 & he was losing trade, his white is really good too.
My whole body feels like I got ants walking over me & I keep getting weird looks for having a good scratch, only if they knew what is actually up with me!!!



Pete556 if you are kinda new to them my advice is WALK AWAY RIGHT NOW while you still got the ability & can post a comment like that. I never like to tell people what to do & I know opiates aren't as bad as people try to make out right? You can get high for a few days & not get sick, everyone always made out how addictive they are & you were thinking how much shit people talk about them.

Please mate don't go messing with them, it comes up slow on you & you'll be sick before you even know you got a habit, it took me several years to get addicted, you'll wake up one morning & have to run to the toilet as the poo will come outta you like a hosepipe, start to sneeze so strong it hurts your nose, sweat so you gotta change your t-shirt 4 times a day, body feels like you been run over, no sleep etc etc.............

I mean this & I swear upon all the dogs souls I have had & loved, this family of dope is bad stuff, the effect upon you will be equal to a mdpv addict that vapes it, heroin & potent opiates come upon you really slowly so you are in real trouble by the time you show ANY sign of addiction, if I could go back in time I would never have started with them.
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nice if it is still 2 for 15 3 for 20, I am coming at the middle of july for about two months in the uk in chinup's hometown, I hope the connect still works as my friend is not using without me, we grew up using togheter but he had the opportunity to move there and he could barely get any without a script so he quit . if the connect is not working I'll probably try cold copping in a bigger city.

you are right about the withdrawal I am so sick of waking up in withdrawal shitting myself and sweating till I get the doses and it kicks in, I have an alarm specially just for the dosing because if I wake up after 6:30 AM I am already in withdrawal.

I swear I hate this time of the year, every pharmacy is closed as it is easter, everybody is snitching because this time of the year usually some people receive a "love letter" and they forget about the most important thing you do if this happens to you : shut up.... another friend had his apartment broken into with stuff and money missing, some stuff was broken as well. so nice that spring has come!
 
BecomingJulie said:
Just been and gone and scored some gear, ending a nine-week break. I've had too many "head-requiring" activities on my plate lately even to think about a proper session. Work has been going absolutely mental just lately; the combination of my bosS's chutzpah and my ability to do for a shilling what any fool could do for a pound is proving world-conquering. (We have already managed to uncover one particular issue with someone else's expensive, proprietary equipment that could simply never have worked, ever; but due to the way the network dynamically reroutes things to bypass faults, everything else mostly managed to disguise the fact that there even was a problem in the first place. In engineering terms, it's just the application of controlled negative feedback improving stability at the cost of requiring more headroom. Applying negative feedback to an amplifier by feeding a portion of the output, inverted so it goes negative when the input is positive and negative when the input is positive, back to the input reduces the gain but means you end up using a smaller portion of the output\input curve, minimising distortion; applying negative feedback -- in the shape of dynamic self-rerouting -- to a network requires more nodes and more connections to provide enough possible alternative routes. Anyway, the only way to be able to demonstrate the problem was by connecting something else to it, that was more reliable than it. The other 21 999 or so people affected by it could have missed out the broken piece of kit on the next connection attempt; or, if they were really unlucky, the one after that.)
Mmmmm ..... drugzzzzzzz .....

@Pete556 -- if you're still not going to take "no" for an answer, at least remember: I (only one data point, ufortunately) only started getting into trouble with heroin once I took it for actual pain as opposed to purely recreationally. That was where the fiending really began in earnest. When I did my back in helping a friend lay a laminate floor, it seemed perfectly logical to dash out for a gram just until I was heaking a bit ..... and then my stash started running low and I was sweating, till by evening I was straight back on the train heading for the RVP. And again, when my soulmate, my dearest friend in the world, passed away.
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I know but theirs not much else i can do at this point i have to take way to much codeine my whole 12 day supply in one dose to feel high and at least 900mg to help with pain i also tried poppy seeds but they did fuck all.. Im sick of worrying about my pain coming back ive already fucked it with my codeine addiction i cant go a day without it so what would the big differencenbe their both opiates no?
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Pete556 if you are kinda new to them my advice is WALK AWAY RIGHT NOW while you still got the ability & can post a comment like that. I never like to tell people what to do & I know opiates aren't as bad as people try to make out right? You can get high for a few days & not get sick, everyone always made out how addictive they are & you were thinking how much shit people talk about them.

Please mate don't go messing with them, it comes up slow on you & you'll be sick before you even know you got a habit, it took me several years to get addicted, you'll wake up one morning & have to run to the toilet as the poo will come outta you like a hosepipe, start to sneeze so strong it hurts your nose, sweat so you gotta change your t-shirt 4 times a day, body feels like you been run over, no sleep etc etc.............

I mean this & I swear upon all the dogs souls I have had & loved, this family of dope is bad stuff, the effect upon you will be equal to a mdpv addict that vapes it, heroin & potent opiates come upon you really slowly so you are in real trouble by the time you show ANY sign of addiction, if I could go back in time I would never have started with them.
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@Pete556 - please listen to this guy's wise words mate, he knows
 
It's really warm and I appreciate the warnings I am not an idiot intact I consider myself more intelligent than average im not just trying to feel good I am ALREADY addicted I can't go one day without codeine or lope and when this stops doing anything which it's started to wtf am I meant to be I've not only got very painful cro hns disease but had deppression like some days I just feel like ending it all when I was a kid I used to laugh at the thought of depression or suicidal tendencies cus they are stupid and illogical(my mum suffers from it a lot the depression) but after being through it myself feeling hopeless and shit that's when I seemed codeine and as pathetic as it sounds(I don't care it's the truth I'm not gonna lie like some addicts do about their use everything I say and do is honest down to my soul and it posses pretentious pricks off I'm not on about any of u lot I'm on about cunts I have to deal with in real life and yes I have tried a bit of discreet sourcing I know you guys don't really know me but it was worth a try..)opiates give me something to live for my depression was prevalent wayy before I started drugs it was when I was 14-15 I moved city from leicester to nottingham and it was horrible I lost the few friends I had everyone seemed to hate me I loved going outdoors but over their I was to scared of getting t terrorized to even walk down the street so I stayed in for like 6 weeks playing world of Warcraft and going shop in the morning t when I knew everyone else was still asleep this is when I had deppression I started hanging out with older kids so they could get me weed I knew they were shorting me but the weed made me feel amazing then when I was 18 I got into stimulants etc and thanks to this site(and drugs-forum) I knew about codeine and my mates dad had hundreds the pure prescription ones, ironically the exact same one im prescribed now then after getting off...On them<< if I could fit the way it meant to make me feel I that 'word's you clued up ppl know ;);) I didn't take any for over a year or two then I managed to get it prescribed for my crohns disease and it was a ducking miracle until I started taking them I forgot what it felt like to not have diareah everyday just because I'm stressed out until I dragged myself up my doctors and when he inspected my anus he said my piles were not normal and since then I've taken them everyday 3 years at least which is a long time I'm grown up now I'm a big boy I'm 22 and since I found out about my family's addiction problems I will admit I have had a sort of fantasy about heroin but I had codeine and that was and still is good enough the only problem is I can't get enough codeine I'm to nervous to ask my doctor and I don't want to admit I've taken more than he prescribed he has tried to get me off them once we argued for over 20 mins he started mentioning addiction centres and I just burst into tears it wasn't take it was genuine I looked him in the eye and said please don't take them away and he realised I wasn't bulshitting but I doubt he's gonna raise my dose about 240 mgs a day so yeah I know you guys say it you could go back in time you wouldn't take it but think about that if you sent back in time you would remember what the first time felt like and your telling me you wouldn't take it again give me a break..
 
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I appreciate the warnings I am not an idiot intact I consider myself more intelligent than average
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Said 100% the same thing myself, imho it's those kinda views & people that are well above the average "smack head" that run the biggest risk.

I'll leave you to it & let you learn from your own actions as that is the only real way people will understand at the end of the day, we tried to tell you the water is hot & to keep out of it. I give you 24 months & you too will be outside Boots daily at 8.50am to pick up your script (daily supervised pick-up sucks btw)

If you are male though at the very least you'll know what it feels like for a woman to give birth, try going for a shit after smoking good gear for a month.

The only thing I've ever come across that is better than heroin & managed to get me to stop with it was mdpv, I think that says it all about the power heroin has over you.


@morpheuspapaverus

You may as well get over here before October 31st, I got a feeling the people where you are based at will be the first on the Tory hitlist.
 
It's the pods you want not the seeds! I give up on prescriptions from drug treatment shite. Folks just don't get it that life is miserable with it and miserable without. I love the line "itz alright for you getting high all the time" err, no, I'm just stopping the sneeze coughs and aching limbs and when you start enjoying life without it like they all say they want you to they've no time for your joy. Anyways zop what dya reckon to my new buddy
 
Well I hope they will let me in, I am not looking to stay in the uk, so only with visiting purposes. I was planning to go mid july and come back in 2 months ( end of september ). I know that they have some issues with the gypsies from our country and as well some romanians as the majority are low life scums which bring nothing to the table to either our or your society. The best thing is that in any country I go I can say that I am hungarian as by blood I really am 100%, I just was born and grew up in transylvania.

Plus a lot of our people usually move in your country but they don't even know english so they end up working in factories with other romanians or polish people on lower wages than they expected and they resort to all sorts of petty crime like pickpocketing or the father of a girl I used to date I found out about him later that he was the head of a card cloning operation. So I really don't condemn your leaders for not wanting us over there.
 
Some of the loveliest kids I've ever taught have been Romanians. Very decent folk. I see the other types pushing shoppi g trollies about the area tho and hanging about the canals but I tell you some of them kidsive taught in schools among the best mannered well brought up.
 
I believe you, we do have a lot of decent folks and smart ones for sure. It's just that in other countries usually the worse part is advertised instead of our genuine people. The majority are taught about respect and how to behave since they are kids but unfortunately a lot of Romanians lack education, most of the time it is not their fault entirely because in most rural areas a lot of people have large families and they can't afford to give kids a proper education. The education is free, but transport, books, pens, crayons and a little food for school days cost a little too much for them. Their only options remain a few rural area schools which lack teachers and personnel.

Some foreign people tend to be close minded and categorize us as gypsies ignoring the fact that the gypsies are an entire other race. Most of the gypsies are discriminated so they grew up poor and resort to crime to survive (stealing, prostitution, selling drugs - especially synthetic cannabinoids or in the south rarely heroin ) . I don't like them too much either honestly, but I know a lot of them as in the past I used to smoke synth noids and score in all sorts of slums so I got familiar with their environments and families. Some of them would love to be treated like normal people for example I know a gypsy, he is about 25 years old and he is an epiletic. I swear he is one of the most respectful people I met, I always tend to look for him when I'm in my hometown to buy him some food and listen to his problems as his family does not understand very much about his medical issue.
 
Also good to remember that a lack of formal education doesn't render a person bad mannered! Ha ha, having worked in it for so long here and seeing thd products of it not always the case. Just a thing on my mind right now, my dad's habit of a life time is a belief that "well educated = decent and truthful and trustworthy above self to be revered by the poor country lad from Ireland" sadly this makes him excuse and pedastal his awful other chdren. Yet the pair of them in all their intellectual sanctimony have never brought themselves nor seen fit to do the reality of what heroin is and addiction to it is. If if the have they wouldn't alleviate the old man's worriez and shame with my use. No, rather they accentuate it. I'll be back with a long thing o this subject soon. Glad to say I let him know that they took drugs In their time just to start getti g the perspective in place.
 
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