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EADD-Heroin-Discussion-v-XXIII-New shit - same old problems

THERE BE A DROUGHT HAPPENIN GUYS n GALS!! :/

The bloke my guy got his shit from was askin for what he gave him back... So it's BAAAAD bad -_-
Always arround krimbo or fuckin what?

So if you can get good stuff, then stock up QUICK-SHARP! :/

U got me worried now as just rang up our usual guy who ;ives about 4 miles from me (his stuff is really nice) and he said he's waiting on a phone call, so i'm worried as he's always got.. it just aint worth doing what everyone has got in my area as it really crap, and thats all of them, there's no point in doing it

The only guy that had good in my area has called asking for my help and his stuff was 57% pure) and he got his from London, so i am really panicking now...
 
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It drys up in December because dealers sit on what they got to push price up.
Next they be saying they got some but it selling fast so buy more to make sure u don't go without over Christmas.
I used crack and h for nearly 20 years and it always happened.
 
Well, a few years back, things didn't seem to recover for ages ..... And then ages .....

Let's hope it is just seasonal fluctuations. Suppose it could be just the major importers getting greedy / worried for their own Festive Stashes .....
 
Your best bet would be sending a sample off to Wedinos. They only require a minute amount to do an analysis on it, and in return you'll find out exactly what is in your h including active compounds and major bulking agents.

Pure fentanyl and fentanyl analogues are readily available relatively cheaply from online sources, so it is definitely possible that it is getting used as an active cut. Supposedly this is a pretty common practice in the US.

do u know how much it costs to do this, and what amount is it u have to send please?

down south- my usual guy has got something different in as he isn't seeing his guy for a few days.. its not his usual so its nowhere near his quality stuff, so just hoping that his man is ok! anything else is not worth bothering with, even though i'd be stupid enough to buy it even if it aint much cop..

please keep me informed as to whats happening in the uk, thanks!
 
do u know how much it costs to do this, and what amount is it u have to send please?

down south- my usual guy has got something different in as he isn't seeing his guy for a few days.. its not his usual so its nowhere near his quality stuff, so just hoping that his man is ok! anything else is not worth bothering with, even though i'd be stupid enough to buy it even if it aint much cop..

please keep me informed as to whats happening in the uk, thanks!

I believe it's free other than the little bit of drugs you'd have to sacrifice, and of course money for envelope/stamp etc. I've never actually sent one in myself but if you google Wedinos you'll get info on their website, as well as results of other peoples submissions to get an idea of the format they take.
 
I believe it's free other than the little bit of drugs you'd have to sacrifice, and of course money for envelope/stamp etc. I've never actually sent one in myself but if you google Wedinos you'll get info on their website, as well as results of other peoples submissions to get an idea of the format they take.

thanks for that, do u know how much has got to be sent it as it doesn't state how much to send... or your opinion on how much..thnx

my main guy has had to get something else for now, and it isn't anywhere near his usual decent.. hope things are ok with him as this drought stuff has me worried, please keep me informed peeps..
 
Not totally sure to be honest, I believe a few mg is all that is needed but I'd wait till someone else with more of a science-y background than I chimes in!
 
In general, for chemical analysis, the bigger the sample, the better. After all, to determine what an unknown substance is, you have to expose it to certain known reagents and see what, if anything, happens; and some of the sample gets destroyed each time, whether or not you discover anything new about it. You can minimise wastage by careful choice of test sequence (HEY, SPROUT!!! THIS IS YOUR TERRITORY!) but there will always be some.

If you are really unlucky, you can run out of the substance under test before you even find out what is in it, let alone how strong it was .....

Also, the accuracy with which the concentration of a sample can be determined depends upon the size of the sample. You need to know how much powder reacts with a known amount of some other reagent; this will tell you how many molecules of the active substance must have been present in the powder; then, with some further calculations, the percentage by weight. You may already have a rough idea from earlier tests, but you need to do a precise test, adding tiny amounts each time. The "give or take" amount is plus or minus half the last increment that completely annihilated the known substance; and the smallest amount you can add is usually fixed by your apparatus. The smaller any errors as a proportion of the quantity, the better will be the result.
 
In general, for chemical analysis, the bigger the sample, the better. After all, to determine what an unknown substance is, you have to expose it to certain known reagents and see what, if anything, happens; and some of the sample gets destroyed each time, whether or not you discover anything new about it. You can minimise wastage by careful choice of test sequence (HEY, SPROUT!!! THIS IS YOUR TERRITORY!) but there will always be some.

If you are really unlucky, you can run out of the substance under test before you even find out what is in it, let alone how strong it was .....

Also, the accuracy with which the concentration of a sample can be determined depends upon the size of the sample. You need to know how much powder reacts with a known amount of some other reagent; this will tell you how many molecules of the active substance must have been present in the powder; then, with some further calculations, the percentage by weight. You may already have a rough idea from earlier tests, but you need to do a precise test, adding tiny amounts each time. The "give or take" amount is plus or minus half the last increment that completely annihilated the known substance; and the smallest amount you can add is usually fixed by your apparatus. The smaller any errors as a proportion of the quantity, the better will be the result.

Iv checked out the site, and they only tell u whats in it, not the purity, but i'm still going to send off as curious, thanks anyhow though..
 
had a wobble (again, i know, i suck) and had two days back on it after nearly a month clean
had a great time but remembered why i quit - i just turn into a zombie
gave away my last .2; i have a degree to finish
still don't think ill ever shake it - least i stopped before wd's set in?
eh fuck it
 
Hey guys. I've been on suboxone for a month or two now, I was advised by the doc to get in touch with the DVLA regarding this. So I called the DVLA and the woman on the phone hadn't even heard of subs, so I had to explain that it was prescribed for heroin addiction.

She said that I may be banned from driving for 12 months! Not because I'm on subs, but because I was addicted to H and you need to be clean for a whole year!

So they sent me forms to fill in, I took them to my support worker and she said 'just be truthful, you will be fine', she and the doc seem to think that every case is different and I won't be banned. I filled them in, but to be honest I diluted my whole drug history if you know what I mean.

I received a letter today saying that a decision has been made and I cannot drive for 12 months, I need to appeal to overrule it.

I feel fucking SICK!!! I need my car, I need to drive, my kids are a 2.5 hour drive away.

Does anybody have and experience with this, is it just a case of speaking to my doc and she will speak to the DVLA on my behalf?!

Why a year? The drug is out of your system is far less time, why would they do this? I feel like I've tried to be truthful and do things right just to be shot in the fucking foot!! I wish I hadn't phoned them now.

What do I do? Sorry, I don't post that often now, but I thought someone here might know how I can fix this.

Cheers.
 
Hey guys. I've been on suboxone for a month or two now, I was advised by the doc to get in touch with the DVLA regarding this. So I called the DVLA and the woman on the phone hadn't even heard of subs, so I had to explain that it was prescribed for heroin addiction.

She said that I may be banned from driving for 12 months! Not because I'm on subs, but because I was addicted to H and you need to be clean for a whole year!

So they sent me forms to fill in, I took them to my support worker and she said 'just be truthful, you will be fine', she and the doc seem to think that every case is different and I won't be banned. I filled them in, but to be honest I diluted my whole drug history if you know what I mean.

I received a letter today saying that a decision has been made and I cannot drive for 12 months, I need to appeal to overrule it.

I feel fucking SICK!!! I need my car, I need to drive, my kids are a 2.5 hour drive away.

Does anybody have and experience with this, is it just a case of speaking to my doc and she will speak to the DVLA on my behalf?!

Why a year? The drug is out of your system is far less time, why would they do this? I feel like I've tried to be truthful and do things right just to be shot in the fucking foot!! I wish I hadn't phoned them now.

What do I do? Sorry, I don't post that often now, but I thought someone here might know how I can fix this.

Cheers.

I don't know how this can be fixed mate, all I know is that the next time someone tells you to be honest, don't fuckin listen. Why did you contact DVLA in the first place? No fucker does that...
 
I was listening to the doc and keyworker, the doc said if I don't contact them then she would have to do it!

They also said I would be fine, so I did what I was told.
 
They should have advised of this at the earliest opportunity Mushet, I'm really really sorry mate that fucking sucks. I knew the surrender of my license was always going to be a sacrifice I would have to make and perhaps this is one of the many selfish reasons I had for resisting a prescription for so long. I really don't know what to say buddy it's a real fucking bummer dude xxx
 
They should have advised of this at the earliest opportunity Mushet, I'm really really sorry mate that fucking sucks. I knew the surrender of my license was always going to be a sacrifice I would have to make and perhaps this is one of the many selfish reasons I had for resisting a prescription for so long. I really don't know what to say buddy it's a real fucking bummer dude xxx

Wait, what? Is this now standard procedure in the so called 'treatment' of addiction? I'm guessing this is as a result of the drug driving laws?

Luckily I got out of treatment before all that shit came in. Had I not, I'd probably be in the same boat.

The biggest message this sends to users is 'Don't seek help'. Still, it's a good way of reducing the official statistics innit?

Fuckin cunts.
 
had a wobble (again, i know, i suck) and had two days back on it after nearly a month clean
had a great time but remembered why i quit - i just turn into a zombie
gave away my last .2; i have a degree to finish
still don't think ill ever shake it - least i stopped before wd's set in?
eh fuck it

Funnily enough I'm in the midst of a little wobble myself, with a bag of one of these fentanyl/mannitol mixes. Since stopping daily use at the end of June, I've had 4 little wobbles like this, twice with h and twice with fent. One of the main things I've learned from this is I definitely can't get away with using like I used to - my last 2 day run on fent had me feeling pretty damn nasty afterwards, and I predict this current binge will last 3 possibly closer to 4 days judging by how much I have left, so I could be in for a shit few days. Kudos in giving the last of yours away.

I know I'm playing with fire and definitely don't intend to make a habit of doing this (if you pardon the pun ho ho). I would have rather had some ketamine tbh, but the fent was so damn budget friendly (worst excuse ever I know haha 8)).
 
My doc and keyworker made it sound as if I'd be alright, they'd never heard of addicts losing their licence after getting 'clean'.

Aye, cause every other cunt has been telling you a bunch of lies! I wish I'd just told them I'd informed the DVLA, but actually hadn't. The problem is if I'd been in an accident and it's on record that I had take subs I could have gotten a hefty fine if the DVLA didn't know. So I thought telling them was the right thing to do.

I'll go see my doc on Monday, perhaps if I appeal they will help.

Surely every case is different?

I can't get my head around that every recovering addict are banned from driving within the first year of treatment!!!
 
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