Sprout
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Does anyone here acidify their gear, then insufflate it?
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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)
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F.U.B.A.R.
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Not intentionally, no. I once couldn't find a vein so thought it would be a good idea to squirt it up me schnozzle instead. It wasn't! It just stung like fuck and made my eyes water for 20 minutes. I say to all you puffs that whinge about snorting 2cs, "try squirting acid up there, then you'll bloody know about it"
Anyway, how do you do it? And why?
Sprout
Bluelight Crew
I don't personally use gear, t'was just a curiosity. I thought the practise would be much more widespread, a la #3 to #4, especially given the difficulty smoking it.
HouseFever
Bluelighter
Thanks mate. Mastering the smoking it seems the hardest. I know this is a bit of a dangerous question bit what would be a good threshold dose of very pure heroin. Smoked?
F.U.B.A.R.
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Ah, I see. Well, it doesn't really work like that ya see. The only reason for adding acid to 'brown' is to make it water soluble for injection. The problem is that it's in the form of a solution which ain't ideal fer snorting, due to the effects I described in my previous post. I suppose in theory, if you used exactly the right amount of acid to gear you could achieve a neutral (i.e. Ph7) solution which wouldn't hurt at all, but it never works that way and you always end up with an excess of acid - hence fucked veins, painful misses etc. As for turning No.3 (diamorphine base) to No.4 (diamorphine hydrichloride), it involves a lot more than acidification.
Sprout
Bluelight Crew
Cheers for clearing that up. 
Sprout
Bluelight Crew
I used very, very briefly a few years back, but could never get the hang of smoking so felt I was chucking money away. H may be cheap, but not when you're literally setting fire to it!
steewith2ees
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Got paid today, was watching the bank account at midnight and one of the guys i check (whos a user himself, he deals for someone else - bless him - he agreed to wait up until my money was in the bank so at half past one this morning due to my greed and overall croak for a smoke I made the 25 mile round trip with a promise to buy him an item for coming out so late. A got a a white which was shit, and 3 bags of reasonably decent kit - managed a nod before I finished the second bag and to my surprise my little midnight adventure turned out to be a vast expance of niceness. Most of the bees and whites by me are sold in 5 bags - but most of the shotters carry 'straight whites for a tenner, so this morning I got 2 'straights' and 3 ten pund bees. The whites were pretty good but still lasted all of 15 minutes - I swear to god thats the last time I waste money on that shit, good quality or not its just not my cup of tea - Im on the second ten bag of bees now, sort of yellowy colour with small rocks in it and although its not quite as good as the stuff I got last night its still half decent and the bags are fat in content. Hopefully Ill be starting buprenorphine on friday so this could be one of my last proper smokes for a good few months if not forever so im going to log off and enjoy the rest of my afternoon in private concert with Noddy Holder.
Have a good day everyopne
Have a good day everyopne
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
Finished all the gear from this morning, while not quite as good as last night was still pretty goood and I spent about 2 hours nodding in and out.
Then , just as the afternoon couldnt get any better I got a promotional mass text from the guys supplier from last night. you know the one BACK ON FIRE THINGS SPEND £30 AND GET AN ITEM FREE. I needed to go back into town to get some weed so I stopped by and got 6 bees with a free white chucked in. I know i said enough of that one but it was free, ableit fairly crap. Just started the bees though and theyre the same ones from last night.
As the seminal rave duo the Ratpack once sang # Ahh can feel another nod coming on, lying like a spaced out junkie all afternoon long...#
Then , just as the afternoon couldnt get any better I got a promotional mass text from the guys supplier from last night. you know the one BACK ON FIRE THINGS SPEND £30 AND GET AN ITEM FREE. I needed to go back into town to get some weed so I stopped by and got 6 bees with a free white chucked in. I know i said enough of that one but it was free, ableit fairly crap. Just started the bees though and theyre the same ones from last night.
As the seminal rave duo the Ratpack once sang # Ahh can feel another nod coming on, lying like a spaced out junkie all afternoon long...#
i working my way thro a 1/4 that i know i will never see the likes of again - proper unbashed gear - its fucking amazing just how i remember years ago .1 and im nodding inand out for hours trying to watch a movie is just a constant rewind , play, rewind etc etc. Its sooo nice but as it slowly goes up in smoke i am actually feeling like packing it in when its goine as i know whats about now that before this i would say was good but now woud say average to poor. sniff boo hoo
F.U.B.A.R.
Bluelight Crew
Ya'know, I'm bloody impressed with your willpower mate! You actually lasted for a full 5 hours after saying "i swear to god I'm never touching that shit again", before scoring again! What's yer secret man? ;-)
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
ok, ill amend that to im never paying for it again
all things being equal im starting opioid replacement therapy on friday so the 2 bees i smoked this morning will probably be my last of anything for a while, free or not as im out of money. Now starts a 48 rattle so hopefully by the time they see the state im in come friday morning they should be ready to prescribe. got a bit of weed left to get me through till then. Saw my gp this morning for a sicknote so i can start claiming esa, and alongside some fluoxetine i managed to squeeze 140mg of diazepam of her. Im saving those tho as my benzo tolerance is a bit high at the moment with all the rc's ive been taking
Not sure if this is the right place to post? But...
For a couple of years now, my calves, my elbows and my triceps will ache to fuck every night and of a morning when I wake up as well. I'm not sure why, but some days are worse than others, and on Monday morning my elbows were killing so I thought I'd take a few tramadols from my brother-in-law's medication cabinet.
I took 100mg and felt really good, so I took another 300mg about 90mins later, and I felt really good for a couple of hours. Then the effects started to go away, and I was about to take another 300mg, but thankfully, the effects soon came back. They were even stronger than before; I threw up, couldn't walk properly, would nod off for a few seconds, couldn't piss properly and I thought I was going to die. I'm so glad I didn't take an additional 300mg, that would have been really fucking stupid. I still feel a bit west off it now and I was pure light headed at work earlier on. I'm worried it might have done some permanent damage?
I'm proper opiate naive. I've only done a few 350mg doses of codeine in the past and I dismissed it as being a bit wank, as it just made me feel like a bloody radiator for a few hours, which isn't really my thing. But that's why I thought the tramadol wouldn't be that strong, as I had heard that it was of similar strength to codeine, but it blew me away and I won't be in a rush to experience that again. I still feel a bit west from the tramadol, and I'm planning on taking a few pills this weekend, the tramadol won't have any effect on this weekend's shenanigans, will it?
I've never tried heroin, but I know loads of people who have. However I have never heard them assign a number to their gear, like a #1, #2 or #3. What does that mean?
For a couple of years now, my calves, my elbows and my triceps will ache to fuck every night and of a morning when I wake up as well. I'm not sure why, but some days are worse than others, and on Monday morning my elbows were killing so I thought I'd take a few tramadols from my brother-in-law's medication cabinet.
I took 100mg and felt really good, so I took another 300mg about 90mins later, and I felt really good for a couple of hours. Then the effects started to go away, and I was about to take another 300mg, but thankfully, the effects soon came back. They were even stronger than before; I threw up, couldn't walk properly, would nod off for a few seconds, couldn't piss properly and I thought I was going to die. I'm so glad I didn't take an additional 300mg, that would have been really fucking stupid. I still feel a bit west off it now and I was pure light headed at work earlier on. I'm worried it might have done some permanent damage?
I'm proper opiate naive. I've only done a few 350mg doses of codeine in the past and I dismissed it as being a bit wank, as it just made me feel like a bloody radiator for a few hours, which isn't really my thing. But that's why I thought the tramadol wouldn't be that strong, as I had heard that it was of similar strength to codeine, but it blew me away and I won't be in a rush to experience that again. I still feel a bit west from the tramadol, and I'm planning on taking a few pills this weekend, the tramadol won't have any effect on this weekend's shenanigans, will it?
I've never tried heroin, but I know loads of people who have. However I have never heard them assign a number to their gear, like a #1, #2 or #3. What does that mean?
Sprout
Bluelight Crew
If you took the Tram on Monday there SHOULD be no interaction. I'm wary of saying you'll be fine given Tram is NT Russian Roulette.
The numbers given to gear are a crude way of identifying how far along the synth route the H is. I believe #1 is opium, #2 morphine base, #3 is Diamorphine base and #4 is diamorphine HCL.
Ah OK, thanks.
What do you mean by NT Russian Roulette? You mean neurotransmitters?
I have to say I feel so stupid over the tramadol. I know it's weak in comparison to other opioids, but it was fucking rough man, I felt so bad. I'm never doing that shit again.
Sprout
Bluelight Crew
If you're a hyper-metaboliser like I, Tramadol is actually an incredible drug. Not touched it in a long while, but when I had a 60-70mg Morphine tolerance (those were the days, eh?) I could get high off 200mg of Tram and gouch off 400mg, never went higher due to the seizure threshold.
Yes, NT = Neurotransmitters, sorry.
Yes, NT = Neurotransmitters, sorry.
If you're a hyper-metaboliser like I, Tramadol is actually an incredible drug. Not touched it in a long while, but when I had a 60-70mg Morphine tolerance (those were the days, eh?) I could get high off 200mg of Tram and gouch off 400mg, never went higher due to the seizure threshold.
Yes, NT = Neurotransmitters, sorry.
No probz. Thanks for replying!
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
Right here we go - got my appt with CDT this morning for possible prescribing. I cracked yesterday morning as I felt so ill and manged to get 3 bags of fairly shit gear Im just beggining to rattle a bit now, mainly teary eyes yawns and shivers but no where near as bad as I could get. My appointments at 11.30 - thats more or less bang on 24 hours since my last blast. If they offer me subutex will this be long enough to avoid precipitated withdrawl? as Id consider my wd symptoms as mild - moderate at the moment with 5 hours untill the appointment
ScotchMist
Bluelight Crew
Not sure how the clinic works where you go but id assume you'll be starting on a supervised daily pick up, just put off going to the chemist for a little while to give yourself a little more time if you're concerned.
Personally ive taken subs alot closer to my last use and experienced no ill effects, however, we're all different so it may not be the case for you. Have they mentioned to you what dose you'll be starting on? Is it maintenance or detox?
Good luck stee, hope it works out for you