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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)

I scored 3 bags of my usual stuff earlier. I have IV 2 of them in the past few hours separately. The rush was okay but I am craving the last one so badly....stuff is pretty shit about here at the moment. Anyone in Scotland getting decent kit?
 
Kit been good BUT small. was getting 2 for 15 and I reckon that a push they might be .1 gear was pretty good.

then I phoned up my mate who i usually score with and he had just got into 'partnership' with a geeza who has had ace kit for a while. as usual its 20 bags and I reckon it was bigger now so .25 but not .3 so for 3 for 50 quid your getting between .75 and .9 at the very most..... but kit was blazing! thought the 2 for 15 stuff was good, well my mates stuff was lush.
 
I scored 3 bags of my usual stuff earlier. I have IV 2 of them in the past few hours separately. The rush was okay but I am craving the last one so badly....stuff is pretty shit about here at the moment. Anyone in Scotland getting decent kit?

Yeah there is really strong stuff about but but you are going to be very lucky to come across it in bags. the smallest quantity i can get it in is as a Q, at 350!, and thats because my mate who intro'd me to this crew is a good mate of theirs. Apparently thers 3 varieties that go around, and the cheapest stuff at 9k/box, 150 a Q, is by far the most popular. It tends to be this stuff that makes it into most of the bags. From what I've seen anyway, the practice up here of selling small bags of .1 of pure is pretty much unheard of. Its mostly big bags of weak bash...The pureist stuff that I get goes for around 1200 on the oz, which is pretty mental considering it was half of that before this "drought". The stuff i been getting is helluva potent, if you iv .1 has you in nodland for hours, .2 would send me over (and im on 50ml meth). I just tend to chase this stuff...

So to answer your question, in scotland good kit is out there, but you really need to have the right connect (it took me 3years to get one) and unless you are very very lucky, you have to go to a dealer's dealer to get it, and pay way over the odds for it. Persevere :)
 
....you can never tell with gear i went over on a ten bag once on a 1/2g a day habit - it was pure uncut this was back in the late 90's when yer normal street gear was good - always 40%min
 
Mrs Curious manages a care home. The stories I could tell you about "waste" diamorphine vials could make you weep. 1ml out the top, then the rest of the bloody bottle goes straight into the chemical disposal box. 8(
 
Mrs Curious manages a care home. The stories I could tell you about "waste" diamorphine vials could make you weep. 1ml out the top, then the rest of the bloody bottle goes straight into the chemical disposal box. 8(

I once had a hook up with a surgical nurse-anything that has been opened goes in the bin-diamorph amps,midazolam apms,etc-wish I could get back in touch with that person,if they still have their job,of course
 
very angry with myself, fuckin relapsed on sunday night and OD'd, was all the way down to 1.6mg subutex and hadnt taken it in 2 days, i missed the chemist on sunday so ended up getting a bag and it sent me over, going to the docs tomorrow to see where i stand with my subutex detox


so fuckin angry :(
 
Fucked up didnt I

Got my appointment with prescibing doc this week, thought it was friday so i was going to have my last smoke today to make sure I was in a good rattle by the time I got there but the appointments at lunchtime. Last used about 3pm yesterday - ive got the mild collywobbles this morning but i can see myself getting there and her saying that theres fuck all wrong with me
 
@Kat - had a friend who was a nurse who use to sneak me out vials of opened D.M - but to be honest the buzz is just not the same as street gear IMO , probably as gear has other stuff in it, codein, morphine, thebaine etc
 
Right then job done got script for 60mls methadone. Ok i know i might be making things more difficult for myself down the road but at least I dont have to worry about scoring all the time any more. I was totally honest about my entire drug usage including my current use but this is what I was recommended. I didnt exaggerate about anything.
 
Right then job done got script for 60mls methadone. Ok i know i might be making things more difficult for myself down the road but at least I dont have to worry about scoring all the time any more. I was totally honest about my entire drug usage including my current use but this is what I was recommended. I didnt exaggerate about anything.

if you genuinely want to get clean then you do need to be honest with them.also,if you take your meth and still feel shitty after half an hour,be aware that it is almost certainly in your head.After first few days,it will build up in your system and you should not rattle at all.
Methadone can be hard to get off,but depends on how much you want to be clean
Plenty of people take meth as a stop-gap,when they can't afford/get gear.Nothing wrong with that but you may want to think about what you tell the ddt
 
I havnt rattled once since the first dose went down. Ive used it as a stop gap before but of course with the exception of the sunday dose im on daily supervised for the first 12 weeks. I do think the dose is a bit excessive but apart from the boredom I have no desire or need to use at the moment, im not even craving really. Looks like theyll be testing me weekly for the next month or 2 so as naughty as this sounds at least Ill be be able to have the odd little bit on top every week or 2 if i time it properly. I know its going to be really hard to get off but Im going to give my self a break for a bit - im due to see the doc in a month so if all is well then ill see if i can get it back down to 50mg/day and leave it at that for the time being. Once the summer comes and Im allowed take homes Ill start talking to them about a proper reduction, dont want to take it to fast but if I can get it down between 20-30mls im sure theyll be able to swap it to buprenorphine which sounds alot easier to finish the taper off with than the meth.
 
is 25e a good price to pay for a 75mcg/hour duragesic fentanyl patch (non-gel type)??? 12.8mg fent in total... very hard to abuse. would not inject. due to all the glue and adhesive been mixed together. plugged worked ok. wearing the patch seems to be the best option.

ive only 20 8mg subutex left. so ive been buying methadone to maintain. im going to see about getting back on with my old doctor. one of these patches and 100mls of phy is the same price. I know which one id rather have!
 
I got through one of those patches within a few hours - up to a day at most - without tolerance so you can work out value for money from that. That was smoking lil snippets of it off foil though not worn. Smoking plastic is obviously a horrible thing for your lungs but given I had no tolerance wearing it (or even using sublingual) wasn't really an option as I needed to keep doses easy to compare and easy to guage. For maintenance, I'd go with the methadone frankly. Fent is the opioid equivalent of crack.
 
is 25e a good price to pay for a 75mcg/hour duragesic fentanyl patch (non-gel type)??? 12.8mg fent in total... very hard to abuse. would not inject. due to all the glue and adhesive been mixed together. plugged worked ok. wearing the patch seems to be the best option.

ive only 20 8mg subutex left. so ive been buying methadone to maintain. im going to see about getting back on with my old doctor. one of these patches and 100mls of phy is the same price. I know which one id rather have!

I was on fent patches(using as prescribed) for several months,whilst locked up.the day I came home,I cut one into 4 strips and put it between my cheek and gum-IMO this is the fastest way to absorb the ingredients.Mine were 100mcg/hr,but same would apply,especially if you have no tolerance.I spent a few hours dribbling but i have promised myself i will never go back to meth.I have now swapped the patch for MSTs,which I find more effective as it's hard to keep the patch on for 3 days.
 
Well I think I've scored about 5 times this year and things are still pretty fucking dire for me. I could STILL smoke a ton of the gear going around and I would not get a gouch. I've forgotten what it's like and that's the reason I started using in the first place, cos of the effect it had on me. The drugs simply don't work <cue Blondin saying he is STILL getting 10/10>.

During the drought the gear was REALLY shit, now it's just shit. There are a lot of people I know who are scoring really bad gear every day and supporting dealers who are selling the really bad gear. I think a lot of them do it through habit. They'll go shopping and spend loads of money and really bad crack (which doesn't even get you high) and really bad gear (that stops you rattling for an hour or two).
 
I'm only going from watching my friends deal with getting off gear properly as I've just smoked a few times, but how do you guys consider the UK as a place for treatment of heroin users? Is Europe or the world in general better/worse? What are the most successful withdrawal program/treatments, if those are the words used. It really has came to my mind as personally feel it takes far too long to get things properly sorted if the person isn't capable of just going cold turkey (doesn't seem to work for many from what I see) e.g. subutex. BL is really only place could think to ask this and get genuine info. Just more to educate myself on the topic for purpose of harm reduction and prospects for change.

Also glad that a close friend has managed to finally get down this route properly.

The UK is awesome (if you wanna get clean), it is pretty much deviod of heroin!

Here's a good indicator - remember when you'd hear of lots of people OD'ing? When was the last time someone you know OD'd?

Or all the warnings to be careful of the 'super strength' batch up in the drug workers' office? I aint seen one of those for years now.
 
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The UK is awesome (if you wanna get clean), it is pretty much deviod of heroin!

Here's a good indicator - remember when you'd hear of lots of people OD'ing? When was the last time someone you know OD'd?

Or all the warnings to be careful of the 'super strength' batch up in the drug workers' office? I aint seen one of those for years now.

hey hooks!Good to see you about after so long.
I moved into my new flat about a month ago and I have scored 3 times since then and not huge amounts
mostly because I needed the money for the flat and some for my son(who has just finished his cancer treatment and is doing surprisingly well).
I have MSTs to get by on and I do just fine on them-no gouch,but like you,I don't really expect that these days.
Just to gauge the scope of the drought,during my 11 months in lock-up,you could NEVER score any gear.It was all subbies,which I hate so I had a pretty good time there-even got off the methadone-had a fen patch but I could still feel the meth rattle.
I am glad for the MSTs,which I prefer to the patch(stickiness was always an issue).
Hope you are doing ok after all that 'going equipped' shit
 
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