steewith2ees
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I want to see if theyll titrate it up to a maintainance level but just in the short term. As soon as Im stable then im looking at as quick a detox as is do-abale. I dont want to end up being parked on that shit
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EADD Heroin Discussion Nininininineteen [19] (I wasn't really sure what was going on)
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ScotchMist
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Ive never been one for maintenance, always straight in to detox, once ive got in that mindset to stop thats it for me..
The one of my detoxs was brutal, my habit wasnt even that large at the time, they started me on 24mg, in hindsight I should of questioned the high dose as it was unnecessary imo but what with being a junkie I thought thatd do nicely
, anyways, it was a 3 week taper, fast forward to the final week starting and I was still on 16mg, then from that down to nothing in 7 days, the rattling was ridiculous and they wouldn't give me anymore, just some poxy zopicones to help me sleep, which obviously I didnt.. Was a terrible program whoever came up with it, id of been better of just doing it cold. I got through it but it wasn't pleasant at all..
The one of my detoxs was brutal, my habit wasnt even that large at the time, they started me on 24mg, in hindsight I should of questioned the high dose as it was unnecessary imo but what with being a junkie I thought thatd do nicely
, anyways, it was a 3 week taper, fast forward to the final week starting and I was still on 16mg, then from that down to nothing in 7 days, the rattling was ridiculous and they wouldn't give me anymore, just some poxy zopicones to help me sleep, which obviously I didnt.. Was a terrible program whoever came up with it, id of been better of just doing it cold. I got through it but it wasn't pleasant at all..
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
Over a ten year habit ive done probably 5 or 6 straight cts. This is the first time ive approached a drug service as I just need to get get some control now, ive put my hands up and admitted defeat, i cant do this without help
ScotchMist
Bluelight Crew
No shame in that stee, 99% of addicts of whatever need help in one form or another, some more than others. I've always needed support and lots of it at that, so hats off to you for going so long on your own and doing so many cold. Hopefully with some help you'll get it cracked this time around 
curious_24
Bluelighter
Good luck with your appointment man. Hopefully this can be the first step towards reclaiming your future.
kkattastic
Bluelighter
I was on subbies for a short while and i really hate that shit-always makes me feel sick-anyhoo,I was on a moderate dose and then i went away for a weekend which resulted in a week long Ket binge,which meant I didn't go to the pharmacy at all(was still on daily pick up)-by the end of the week,the withdrawal was pretty much over-i just started drinking heavily as I just can't seem to live without anything-life is so fucking boring if you are straight.
I have pretty much accepted my habit now and don't expect to ever get over it.I am currently on 400mg morphine a day and find I can manage fine on 300mg-though I may look to increase that dose shortly as there are days when I may take 500mg-my script is not just maintenance,but legitimate pain med too.
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
cheeers c24 and scotch- - Right assessment went well enough but ive been left high and dry - my appointment with the prescribing doc is THE FUCKING 2ND OF APRIL!!! So nothings changed, im now rattling to fuck and as soon as my fones charged im off to score. What a wounder.
Tryptamite
Bluelighter
That sounds like a lovely maintenance plan. As far as I know they dont prescribe MSTs for ORT in Ireland. We have methadone. I had to go to fucking france to get a subutex script because I wasn't up for going to the clinic every day, and pissing in front of someone is impossible for me on opiates.
Im getting on fine with the subutex. down to 6mg from 8mg. Only have 4 or 5 boxes (of 7) left. Hopefully I will get my dose down to 4mg or possibly even 2mg and stretch what I have out a bit longer. I wonder could I get a script faxed over to me and go up north to pick it up?
Obviously I would rather be on a full agonist. I was on weekly pick ups before with methadone but when I got clean for a year I lost that "privelege". Oral morphine would be fantastic. However I won't lie, the blocking effect of buprenorphine has been very good for me as I have seriously cut down on how often I use heroin - one of the reasons I wanted to go down this route in the first place.
@ 6mg/day I not take my dose in the AM and then shoot maybe .3 gear to get a good rush and effect. I can go straight back on the subs the next day (or even later that day) as there is still quite a bit of bupe built up in my system. Even the last time when I stopped taking my subs and went on a 2 week gear run, I was dreading going back on the subs but when I did it wasn't that bad. Feeling slightly off for 3-4 days, but nothing like actual WDs.
Stee - I know the feeling of being let down like that. Its happened to me countless times when Ive been seeking assistance with detox or maintenance.
Tryptamite
Bluelighter
On another note I much prefer codeine to tramadol. Codeine has a serious histamine release and an anti-histamine is essential, but the narcotic effect @ 400mg twice a day would take away most of my WDs from an actual gear habit. Without tolerance I find it recreational.
Tramadol on the other hand feels very dirty and speedy. The first time I took it (back when I had just done the odd CWE) it felt like a mild speed comedown. There is no way tramadol would be any use to me in trying to cope with WDs.
Tramadol on the other hand feels very dirty and speedy. The first time I took it (back when I had just done the odd CWE) it felt like a mild speed comedown. There is no way tramadol would be any use to me in trying to cope with WDs.
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
I used to have tons of tramadol and found useless fro wd control, just gave me weird wired buzz which was not particularly pleasant. Ive used it for legitimate analgesia and found it next too useless. Horrible drug, cant see the point in it really, neither for abuse or legitimate treatment
F.U.B.A.R.
Bluelight Crew
I've used dextropropoxythene for wd control before, but that too is a 'weird' buzz - somewhere between tramadol & codeine...
5StarSquatHotel
Bluelighter
Stupidly strong kit doing the rounds in Bristol . Light beige colour powder with very very dark beetle, as strong as pre drought if not stronger and before anyone says it is not fent/benzo or barb cut -I know that for a fact. To strong to bang even with tolerance, you can nod for hours from smoking 50mg. This aint off anyone special either, 0.7 for £30. Blows anything that's been about for the past few years easy, no doubt they will know what they have and bash it soon but fuck it, I had some bad news and I am going to enjoy it and it takes my hip fracture pain away 100% so I am happy, for now...
5StarSquatHotel
Bluelighter
Do you use benzos mate?
kkattastic
Bluelighter
I did not get that script from drug addiction services..it was from a legit doc-i still had to rattle off my meth-you do still feel it after taking it for so long.My script is partly to stabilise me mentally and partly for legit pain.
apparantly loads of good kit about but i really can't spend much-too many other things i need
BecomingJulie
Bluelight Crew
Taking strong gear after a period of abstinence is always going to hit you pretty hard.
The gear that I have been getting lately (antesiccitate strength) does something similar to me if I take it while tired. I can smoke a line or two of it, and just sit there; then suddenly I will wake up, without any recollection of how I even got to sleep in the first place.
Unless you take a really stupid amount possibly in combination with other drugs, it's very difficult to overdose by smoking. Not altogether unheard of, though. The greatest risks for an experienced user smoking yourself into a gouch are (1) forgetting to take ongoing medication for conditions such as asthma or diabetes, and (2) immediate physical hazards e.g. lighted candles, running bath taps and pans left on stoves. Being alone worsens the danger; having someone else around usually reduces it, especially if they know what to do. (But someone who will lose the plot is worse than useless.)
Basically, get some rest and tear off a smaller piece of foil next time. And the longer you wait before next time, the surer you will be in your own mind that you don't have a problem.
The gear that I have been getting lately (antesiccitate strength) does something similar to me if I take it while tired. I can smoke a line or two of it, and just sit there; then suddenly I will wake up, without any recollection of how I even got to sleep in the first place.
Unless you take a really stupid amount possibly in combination with other drugs, it's very difficult to overdose by smoking. Not altogether unheard of, though. The greatest risks for an experienced user smoking yourself into a gouch are (1) forgetting to take ongoing medication for conditions such as asthma or diabetes, and (2) immediate physical hazards e.g. lighted candles, running bath taps and pans left on stoves. Being alone worsens the danger; having someone else around usually reduces it, especially if they know what to do. (But someone who will lose the plot is worse than useless.)
Basically, get some rest and tear off a smaller piece of foil next time. And the longer you wait before next time, the surer you will be in your own mind that you don't have a problem.
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
Made 2 trips into Wolverhampton today, first thing this morning 3 bags of beige brown fine powder, not totally rocket but my tolerance is pretty high and Id started to nod quite nicely by the third but fell asleep soon after (dont worry rass, it can just happen if your tired anyway). Felt nice and relaxed when i woke up again buy as the afternoons worn on Ive got quite agitated so had a few pyrazolams to dampen my anxiety a bit.
Just got 2 more from different source, this ones more rocky and Im just on my last couple of lines of the first bag, not as good as this morning but its still pretty good. Usually sundays the worst day down my ends to get hold of anything but after a week of mainly crap kit im nicely surprised and satisfied with what Ive ended up with. Of course, if id got a subutex script on friday like i was expecting there would have been none of this pissing around.
@BJJulie - belated congrats on ur new modding status only just picked up on it xx%)
Just got 2 more from different source, this ones more rocky and Im just on my last couple of lines of the first bag, not as good as this morning but its still pretty good. Usually sundays the worst day down my ends to get hold of anything but after a week of mainly crap kit im nicely surprised and satisfied with what Ive ended up with. Of course, if id got a subutex script on friday like i was expecting there would have been none of this pissing around.
@BJJulie - belated congrats on ur new modding status only just picked up on it xx%)
steewith2ees
Bluelight Crew
5v mins since I made that last post and im beginning to nod a little. As a hopeless pathetic junkie its actually turned out to be a nice day. Just need to get some friends,a job and a life now
kkattastic
Bluelighter
Scored today but only cos a good friend picked up for me.Only the 2nd time I used since moving to my new place.The gear is a pretty good standard,I think and I paid 90 for 2g..not a bad deal,in my books.Been so depressed,spent 2 days without even getting dressed let alone going out anywhere.Jobs to do are not getting done.But I am slowly adjusting to living alone again.Still visit my parents at least once a week.Picking up my last 2 things that are at other peoples houses tomorrow.Probation on Friday.Appointments on Monday and Tuesday then I can climb back into my hole again.New place is really nice flat-feels comfortable too-def not haunted or anything like that.Dunno why I feel so depressed but I am not stooping to take anti depressants.They do fuck all anyways.Only one kinda anti-dep that ever works and you all know what that one is.Absolutely cannot lose this flat though after all the money,time and effort my dad has put into it.I would lose everything AGAIN,and my son is coming to visit when he is over his radiotherapy and promised we will hit all the famous art galleries we have here,in Brum.Also want to pay for his tattoo(providing the docs say it is ok)and give him something for his holidays.He deserves it.He's been a real champ with all the surgeries,chemo and now radiotherapy.Missed a year of uni but has a studio and has still been working so hopefully,that will take a little pressure off that 3rd year-he is studying fine art-the 3rd year is a killer if you can't give it 100%.He is only 21 and I feel it's really shitty for him to get Lymphoma,but apparently it is not uncommon for people his age to get that particular cancer.Been more scary for us than for him.Operations to relieve pressure on his heart for instance.Pisses him off cos I worry all the time,but he just can't get that I can't not worry.He is still my baby and for my generation,cancer is still perceived as a lethal condition.He is very dismissive of it but I am hoping that this last bit of treatment will be the end of this for him.
CbRoXiDe
Bluelighter
Fuck knows what possessed me to score today, kinda annoyed I did cause been sticking to my script for a while now. But stuff look like absolute shite when I opened it, was powdery but had like little lumps in that look like crushed tablets or something, but had a look and crushed a few and turned into a light browny powder so thought, why not? Had a dig of it and turns out it's pretty fucking strong, gouching my face off as I type this. This is in Manchester btw.