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My God is my sense of right and wrong and my moral values, and my acceptance that other people have different "Gods/gods" but we're all essentially on the same sort of wavelength, apart rom a few wrong 'uns.
 
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Well thats Love MM

Your love is a reflection I reckon of the big love that is everthing..

Just thinking about the 'wrong uns'... Thats the thing.. Love wants the wronguns to be
in and on the same wave length.. or sets of wave lengths.

I really believe we are all connected.. u hurt i hurt.. The word religion suggests an us and them.. thats why i hate it.. one of the reasons..


Theres no judgment in christ.. no one is outcaste .. He would die just to get one back 'in'..
Thinking about the whole as a flock again.. there are no lost sheep.. no black sheep or
whatever.. 'He' the body, or the fold is all in all.

Interesting good shepherd commentary.

http://www.biblegateway.com/resources/commentaries/IVP-NT/John/Jesus-Good-Shepherd-Who-Flock


Vaguely connected thought.


His fold is able to morph into whatever shape the shepherd leads it into.. one day it might be sheep another it might b a gaggle of geese.


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As for who created us we evolved, please don't tell me your a creationist if that's the case we may a well close the thread now, next you'll be telling me the world was created in 7 days. That one has alway made me laugh how can the time it took to create the earth be based on the time it takes for it to rotate, so the time was based on something that didn't exist and the idea of this entity being limited by time, or that you could measure its actions with a watch ...come on I'm not saying this means that all of Christianity is BS but you have to keep up with how much the human race has learned you can't rely on a selection of bits of scripture cobble together and translated badly and take it all literally in English.

I concur.

Check this place out, its not far from bristol.

http://www.noahsarkzoofarm.co.uk/

Looks fun, good place to take the family you may think. So you pay a fair bit to get in, and you don't pay much attention to all the informative stuff on the walls cos there's animals to look at and shit. But look closer and its all creationist propeganda, explaining about the 7 days and all that. Loads of it.

In the 'about' section there lurks this

In 1991 Anthony was selected and trained (at Trinity Theological College) as a priest in the Church of England, but was not ordained. Anthony and Christina belong to a local Anglican Church, where Anthony continues as a Lay Reader. In 1997 they rebuilt the old 17th century farm buildings of Moat House Farm and prepared to open Noah's Ark, as a themed animal park, for adventure, education and to remind visitors of the ancient tradition of God's relationship with mankind; and of the contemporary science that points to Creation plus evolution of species.

I was livid Id been tricked into giving my hand earned cash to a creationist establishment and I cant believe they dont have to advertise the extremely strong religious nature of the place. You would never ever guess it from the website or advertising they do. maybe the name shouldv'e given it away but i didnt twig.
 
Good grief.. do leave me out please.. next

Youre straight out mate! throwing you to the ravenous wolves.


Omg the evil people!! Slyly reminding people that a creator God might love them to death!

burn em!
 
barred.. outta my thread

'ooooh come and look at our animals and er .. um did you know that an all powerful God,
that could create a universe from nothing in 7 days.. loves even your shit.. and would
send his son into a world that hates him to save even paedos and hitlers..
sorry to intrude!'

Really need setting on fire dont they.
 
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the impossible game

No matter what your religion, all the way along you will generally surround yourself with people who tell you yes this is correct, just carry on walking this path and god'll take care of you in the end. How do you know youre on the RIGHT path if there's so many other people completely devoted to the idea that THEIR path is correct.
 
Make me :)

Its possible to reconcile Christianity with evolution. Many seniors in many faiths piss their pants at the concept of creationism & denial of evolution, and they;re far from unfamiliar with the concept of Gods love. You lose a lot of credibility points imo if you believe in the literal translation of the old testament. They were always intended as simplistic allegories.
 
literal but stretchy like time.

HX I agree finding truth would be an impossible game.. I dont have a map or set of rules..
Ive got The Spirit with me and in me.. He knows where 'he' is going because the Way is His..
Might be up or down.. into darkness or light.. where it is is right because 'Hes' there.

Check out those birds flying in formation.. Nobody has told them the way but they appear
to know where they are going.. and they are doing it v tidily in a lovely V formation I must
add. :)
 
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That zoo is not far from me at all

I like the Earth History part of the website where they try and convince you that the noahs ark story actually happened. Cmon... I'd be impressed if he managed to collect all 360 species of known tree frogs never mind EVERY seed for every plant on earth plus 2 of every animal, get to fuck!
 
Check out those birds flying in formation.. Nobody has told them the way but they appear
to know where they are going.. and they are doing it v tidily in a lovely V formation I must
add. :)

I see 'love' in that.

Mind you I'm also standing wonky and hanging from my bones over this laptop and feeling pretty tranquil. must dash for bed.
 
That zoo is not far from me at all

I like the Earth History part of the website where they try and convince you that the noahs ark story actually happened. Cmon... I'd be impressed if he managed to collect all 360 species of known tree frogs never mind EVERY seed for every plant on earth plus 2 of every animal, get to fuck!

What about every species of animal for the known world, which at the time was the middle east/egypt. Doesn't sound all that impossible to me.
 
What about every species of animal for the known world, which at the time was the middle east/egypt. Doesn't sound all that impossible to me.

You raise a fine point (NOT REALLY - WHAT THE FUCK SON!!!)

I can't believe i'm even debating this maybe tomorrow i'll be trying to explain how santa clause could not possibly deliver playstations and mountain bikes to all the kiddies in the UK on the 25th of december never mind the world unless he spent 0.000000000000.0000000000000000000000000000007* milliseconds on every household to deliver his presents and also have a sleigh that could hold 30850327603760197601930396* cubic feet, not taking in to account how long the cunt spends eating mince pies at each address. He needs to get a job at royal mail.

*just like the bible my statistics are made up or worse copy and pasted from wikipedia and very likely way off the target :D

Freehugs, noah had 8 staff and kept his ship running for over a year, think of how many species live in the middle east alone of just dung beetles (of which there are 7000+ known), do you really think its possible for noah to have collected 2 of every species plus the the food and equipment to keep them alive? i'm guessing the ship would have to be something like 1000x the size of the titanic.. why am I even going to the effort of typing this out!?!?!
 
Love is like a drug isnt it?

Actually, I was desperate when I became a Christian.. Id been travelling in India and came back pregnant..8o

I had no idea what to do but time was ticking and I had to make a choice. So I started searching the psalms.. calling out to GOd to show me what to do. And crackhead out of nowhere at all a bible tract from some leaflet emerged on my floor.. ( it may have fallen out of some book or may have just manifested wooosh)

it was simply this:

..He tends his flock like a shepherd: He gathers the lambs in his arms and carries them close to his heart; he gently leads those that have young. Isaiah 40.11

It gave me such a sense of peace and reassurance that I wasnt going to be on my own with a baby.. and that things would be alright.. He has always provided for me and protected me and hasnt let me down.. and ive felt 'gently led' :)

Before that ( even though Ihad been studying theology) the bible didnt really speak to my heart.. It was just a load of vicious strict looking rantings and thees and thous..

Now I see the word as my anchor.

Im glad God took time off to open the pages there and not Genesis 22:2

2 He said, “Take now ayour son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.”

Do you ever feel guilty that God had to stop saving all those poor dying kids in Africa to help you out after you got knocked up? I mean you were probably stressing for weeks and got the answer you were searching for, but to be honest he may have been better off organising some rain to end a drought. I guess your Lord works on quality not quantity when it comes to helping out strangers.
 
Im glad God took time off to open the pages there and not Genesis 22:2



Do you ever feel guilty that God had to stop saving all those poor dying kids in Africa to help you out after you got knocked up? I mean you were probably stressing for weeks and got the answer you were searching for, but to be honest he may have been better off organising some rain to end a drought. I guess your Lord works on quality not quantity when it comes to helping out strangers.

playing devils advocate, god cannae save everyone, without terrible like the wars starving and poverty, there'd be no good (though ima strict agnostic, live and let live fuck the world itsa piece of shit and if there is a god why dont he fix it? and il try and do what i can and make it better but it wont stop me fulfilling my life, might be sommat out there might not, no need to fret over it... or does that mke me a taoist? (know fuck all about most religions) fuck knows)
 
I would have thought creating a few rain clouds would be more loving than opening the pages of a bible or allowing a wild ricochet to score the winning goal in an FA cup final, yet you get some mong thanking God for all manner of shit. If the bible is gods word, how come he only gave it to a small pocket of the middle east? I guess he didn't create those poor bastards in China and South America in his image afterall.
 
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