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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

The clearnet benzo market seems to be completely turned upside down and inside out right now.

Vendors that were previously reliaby able to source decent brands and genuine products, are now supplying ever more obscure brands, and some of them with shockingly bad track records of test results on Wedinos - Nucod Codeine anyone? :mad::mad:

Every single sample so far has tested as some dodgy nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) called Diclofenac

Galenkia Rivotril clonazepam seems ever harder to obtain from more and more vendors.

Even Modvigil Modafinil is now for the first time testing as a bit iffy with several recent results showing as inactive.

One could begin to despair, but just in the nick of time a blast from the past in the form of an email from an old vendor appears in my inbox out of the blue, with a special offer too.

Not only do they have galenkia rivotril clonazepam, they also have cheap modafinil, but the best news yet is that they have etizolam! Finally!! It's back!! After a long awaited hiatus. Test results look encouraging. I think a sample order is going to be the order of the day!
 
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It truly is shocking, it makes me wonder what is being sold on TG WA etc.

My question is why? I've been thinking about this for a few months and don't really have an answer.
I can understand underdosing an illicit pill will make the money go further.
I can understand producing a top level package and fill them with 'nowt', quick gains but no further potential (really).
I can understand re-naming another substance.

I cannot see any benefit at all in mixing zene's into the supply?
And why now? all the benzo's getting targeted at once.

It reminds me of when E's went shit in the uk in 1994-1998, think it was a lack of a precursor but when they came back they were twice the price.

I've probably answered my question there.
 
50shadesofDave said:
It truly is shocking, it makes me wonder what is being sold on TG WA etc.

My question is why? I've been thinking about this for a few months and don't really have an answer.
I can understand underdosing an illicit pill will make the money go further.
I can understand producing a top level package and fill them with 'nowt', quick gains but no further potential (really).
I can understand re-naming another substance.

I cannot see any benefit at all in mixing zene's into the supply?
And why now? all the benzo's getting targeted at once.

It reminds me of when E's went shit in the uk in 1994-1998, think it was a lack of a precursor but when they came back they were twice the price.

I've probably answered my question there.
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In my world, the E's and mdma 94-98 times were absolutely fantastic quality :) Completely went to shit in the early/mid 2000's though
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
In my world, the E's and mdma 94-98 times were absolutely fantastic quality :) Completely went to shit in the early/mid 2000's though
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Ah, we'll have to agree to disagree.
I just remember them going from around a tenner a pop to 3 for a tenner. Then the first batch of Mitzis hit ;-).

Thinking about it, i've probably answered my own question regarding benzo's, it will come right soon enough but with an extra £? added for the quality.
 
Bleaney said:
The clearnet benzo market seems to be completely turned upside down and inside out right now.
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Not only do they have galenkia rivotril clonazepam, they also have cheap modafinil, but the best news yet is that they have etizolam! Finally!! It's back!! After a long awaited hiatus. Test results look encouraging. I think a sample order is going to be the order of the day!
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Great news about the Etizolam. I've even seen Clonazepam being cut with other stuff on WEDINOS now... :mad:
 
50shadesofDave said:
It truly is shocking, it makes me wonder what is being sold on TG WA etc.

My question is why? I've been thinking about this for a few months and don't really have an answer.
I can understand underdosing an illicit pill will make the money go further.
I can understand producing a top level package and fill them with 'nowt', quick gains but no further potential (really).
I can understand re-naming another substance.

I cannot see any benefit at all in mixing zene's into the supply?
And why now? all the benzo's getting targeted at once.

It reminds me of when E's went shit in the uk in 1994-1998, think it was a lack of a precursor but when they came back they were twice the price.

I've probably answered my question there.
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Maybe. Still doesn't explain the nitazenes to my mind. I've seen very potent RCs sold by the kilo for just a few £K per kilo. They'd be more than enough.

I recall the MDMA precursor thing in the 90s. Early on there was no legislation around it so buying in the precursor was legal and easy.

It has been encouraging to see though the last few weeks of WEDINOS being somewhat cleaner than it has been for a while, last reference to metonitazene in a benzo I see is 2nd July. Is it finally dying out? Maybe some shithead just had a bunch of it and wanted rid of it.

I have a decent amount of spot on Dows to be getting on with for now* but given how messed up things are I want to regain a 'stash' so I can ride out any more nonsense for a good while. My choices are: buying a largish number of strips of Dows from the same people, getting Etizolam from the US (I don't know any UK vendors unlike Bleaney), or I can get a bunch of different benzo RCs to try from...I'll just say overseas, don't want to get into specifics. I plan on getting a variety and seeing how they feel. Smart me would pick Etizolam but Psychonaut me wants to try out some exotics to be able to say I know how they rock.

The stupid mistake I made with those fake bensedins (I suspect they had nitazenes) was because they tasted of nothing and I was drunk I thought fuck it "take 4 more and see if anything happens, it probably won't", then had a couple of days blackout for first time ever. I've learned from that, so any RC fuckery will be done at a half pellet or maybe even quarter pellet and steady as she goes. I've heard a lot about blackouts from this site, but actually experiencing one was terrifying. Have no desire to repeat that experience.

*have used them very successfully so far to get my drinking under control. Dropped my alcohol intake considerably and feeling tons better. Had my blood pressure test again at docs today and it had dropped considerably.
 
You and Bleaney can just be carefull.

Etizolam never really worked for me but i know the dangers of easy supply.

Is there an r/c stim out there that would be good for a new job? need energy and focus, tried modafinil with no joy.

As said, go easy lads.
 
sadasaulna said:
Great news about the Etizolam. I've even seen Clonazepam being cut with other stuff on WEDINOS now... :mad:
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Please don't tell me that it's the Galenkia Rivotril brand that is now being cut!?

Up until this point, that had seemed the only quality or name brand that had remained untainted.
 
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Bleaney said:
Please don't tell me that it's the Galenkia Rivotril brand that is now being cut!?

Up until this point, that had seemed the only quality or name brand that had remained untainted.
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None that I could see. It seems to be affecting Nokim and Elikem - both being tainted with Amisulpride which is an antipsychotic and antiemetic.
 
I'm definitely not going to be organising any wedinos form filling tonight for various new benzos that I've acquired recently. Although this really does need doing as soon as possible.

I've indulged in the seductive pleasures of Soma tonight, so that will be my motivation and attention to detail gone when it fully kicks in. Any mistakes or ommisions on your forms and Wedinos will reject them, and wont test your submissions.

I've already had some pregabalin too, only 100 mg but it will definitely make the soma hit harder. I'm hoping to be able to enjoy the experience rather than just conk out, so I've added some methylphenidate, kratom, and will also have some strong Yerba Mate tea, all of which should help me stay awake.

It always feels like such a waste when you just drift off to sleep with soma. It is a very pleasant way to drift off, but it's more enjoyable to be able to stay awake to enjoy the satisfyingly heavy and weighty full body muscular and mind relaxation it provides.

It's a good thing that I can only do it on the days I don't have work the next day. It makes it so hard to wake up and get up the next day. Try and get up early and you just feel like the living dead for several hours.

So I could never do it when I have to work the next day, which puts a helpful limiter on this little indulgence, that could otherwise easily become a much bigger habit, seeing as how much I enjoy it.
 
Any WEDINOS posted off yet? Out of interest can you send them multiple drugs (each with their own form) in a single envelope? Like so long as you labelled the samples to match with the forms. Or do I have to do postage for each separate one?
 
PM sent.

Yes you can send more than one item per envelope. As long as each sample is securely attached or to each form, or labelled with a ref number to match the form, so they dont reject things on the slightest technicality, error, or ommission (as they are prone to do) and there is no cross-contamination etc......
 
Worth knowing. I would put a sticky label on each baggy with the ref number that matched the form. Sticking the baggy to the form on top is a good idea.
 
Alright people, i've got myself some Rivotril Clonazepam to see if it works better for sleep, as some of you will have read i am maintaining at 30mg diaz for the time being, however i have bensedins in and they seem to be random dose wise ( i've had 1 tab give me a knock and the next almost nothing).

I have been stable on three per day but i'm struggling to stay asleep and waking at the very first hint of day break, and unable to get back to sleep.

What would be the best strategy for sleep with the Clonaz? should i just try replacing 1 x bensedin prior to sleeping with 1 x Clonaz? or would you go for two tabs as a replacement and use 1 x bensedin as i have been, ie, to keep the fog away during the afternoon, i have been breaking one in half and taking a half at 2pm and the other half at 6pm.

I want to get this right and not end up reliant on diaz + Clonaz.

Any advice welcome.
Thank you.
 
50shadesofDave said:
Alright people, i've got myself some Rivotril Clonazepam to see if it works better for sleep, as some of you will have read i am maintaining at 30mg diaz for the time being, however i have bensedins in and they seem to be random dose wise ( i've had 1 tab give me a knock and the next almost nothing).

I have been stable on three per day but i'm struggling to stay asleep and waking at the very first hint of day break, and unable to get back to sleep.

What would be the best strategy for sleep with the Clonaz? should i just try replacing 1 x bensedin prior to sleeping with 1 x Clonaz? or would you go for two tabs as a replacement and use 1 x bensedin as i have been, ie, to keep the fog away during the afternoon, i have been breaking one in half and taking a half at 2pm and the other half at 6pm.

I want to get this right and not end up reliant on diaz + Clonaz.

Any advice welcome.
Thank you.
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Sleep would be what I'd aim for, and just ride out the worst of the anxiety in the day knowing the night time is going to bring you some lovely sleep and relief. Its amazing what you can deal with when you know there is a fix waiting.

First thing I would advise is do the minimum you can bare in the daytime (even if you can't hold down a job), even if it involves near panic attacks. Save your main benzo dose for late evening. Don't use the computer or phone while on those, do something like read a book in bed. With a good hypnotic like Nitrazepam or Zopiclone or a dose of Diazepam you'll be sleeping. (I haven't followed my own advice but if I had I'd have been in bed listening to an audiobook or reading i would probably be asleep by now.)

Forget the Bensedin diazepam, they are such an unknown quantity at this point. Stick with Dows for now if you can at least until that supply gets polluted to s*** like the rest of it.

You're saying you're doing 30mg of unreliable dose Diaz. When replacing 10mg diazepam with Clonazepam what are you talking about 0.5mg, 1mg, 2mg?

If you have to get up for work an Alarm clock is of course required. Set it well before you get up so you can go through a few snooze cycles.

I'll PM you with some advice.
 
Top man, thanks very much.
Yea what happened, i got a tester of new bensedinds, bear in mind i was scrambling at the edge of insanity at the time for the previous couple of month, they worked well so i got a stock in, once the maintenance reinstate settled, it was bleaneys hump theory that made sense of reinstating and i made the mistake of thinking they were too strong individualy.
Once i settled i stocked and over the last couple of weeks i've got the timing steady, with the random dosage the plan won't work, hence the sleep problem.

The Clonaz were a test buy as i might transition over to that, i have 2mg tabs and they're fucking lovely to be honest, i had a large meal so dropped one before, and had one under the tongue about 30 mins back. That's it for the day/night, i'd had a bens in 2 halves today.⁰

If i sleep well i'll swap over i think, i definatley feel more sedated.

As for the new job? My last employer would'nt give me a ref, he reckoned he could'nt as we never worked closely, barely saw him, it was a good job but zero hours and on the tools, I had been looking for a change of paths, i got accepted to be part of a company that takes naughty kids on trips out, fishing, bowling, swimming etc, i've been on the tools over 25 years and that reference knock back has cost me the job, 'my' position has been re-advertised. So i went back on the tools last weds, for now. There's a good chance i'm going to snap when i see my ex manager, he won't even do a basic, start date/finish date....he was an absolute tool though.
We had a young lad (plumber) who started on his own, this manager used to phone him at lunch with blag jobs, to show off to the other lads, like said utter prick.
I'm not a violent person but he's going down like a roll of lino!!

Sorry for the rant :-) i just feel hard done to this week, the irony is that i cleared a enhanced DBS today.
 
50shadesofDave said:
i cleared a enhanced DBS today.
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Please except a belated congrats. I have a load of generic asian bzds of various flavours at the moment which I will photograph for u when I get the motivation. They all come in strips of tiny white tablets containing 10 pills in all cases but the 2mg clonazepam, which contain 15 ("Rnaze - 2" I think the name of the medicine is and having had them a couple of times before are proper as fook).

I also got a a couple of "Elikem Elipam - 10" strips of 10mg diazepam (which are also kosher and need to be used up first if I wish to avoid any detectable metabolites getting picked up in my next OPA mandatory UA come Nov.) as well as the strongest lorazepam capsule or tablet product I have encountered yet, a strip of 10 "Lorus 3mg" lorazepam 3mg pills which I have yet to check out, but which my friend from which I obtain such items now prefers to the Hemofarm 2.5mg Lorazepam efforts they (and I) have been using since getting into the Serbian medicines 5 - 7 years or so ago.
 
Well, i think clonaz has too much of a hangover effect for me, struggled to motivate myself for a job and delayed the customer for a day.
Maybe a weekend thing.
 
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