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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

Bleaney said:
There won't be any unknown amounts. That post probably sounded more reckless than it actually is. It's actually really pretty moderate and controlled in my book.

Fortunately the only times I really pissed people off (neighbours etc) was when GBL was involved. I can get rowdy and out of control on GBL. It's probably just as well that I cant get GBL at this time.

But I just get peacefull, chilled, and quiet on pretty much everything else. I dont create disturbances and things like that as long as there is no Geeb involved.
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I'm curious about GBL - does it have effects similar to benzos? Is it still legal in the UK?
 
Forever Changes said:
I'm curious about GBL - does it have effects similar to benzos? Is it still legal in the UK?
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It's Like benzos in as much as it loosens anxiety and inhibtions. In my case its many many times exponentially so. I am incredibly free and uninhibited on GBL. Dangerously so in fact, and far far too much for my own good. I absolutely love the way it makes me feel, and music also sounds very close to orgasmically good to me. It is way way way much more fun than benzos, which have long since become merely a functional medication for me. I dont take them for fun.

GBL is a grey area legally. One supplier openly ships it for what it is, stating openly on the customs label the exact contents, excatly as they are. It is legal for business customers (who are VAT registered) to use as a drain cleaner and paint stripper etc. But it is not legal for human consumption. One supplier sold it in gel form to non business customers, so as to make the product less 'abusable'. The gel is absolutely fucking vile, but I still managed to force it down, having eventally found that the most strongly flavoured Ginger Beer it was possible to buy, was just about the best way of getting it down. Where there is a will, I most definitely will always find a way. It took a lot of dedication and perseverance to discover that. Of course it was absolutely nothing but a labour of love though. I never would have done that if I didn't love it so.

I s'pose plugging might be worth considering too. That is potentially dangerous though. GBL can be fatal in overdose. EADD lost a couple of well known members to GBL overdoses in it's hey day. And i imagine it would be more easy to OD when plugging. I've never OD'd with oral dosing although I have K/Od numerous times. I always measure my doses though. There is a difference between ODing and taking K/O doses. K/O doses may look similar but your respiratory system keeps going just fine, as long as you dont push that line too far from KO territory into OD territory. Its something you learn through experience and gradual increases in the doses. KOs are never the goal, and have always been the result of dose miscalculations or early inexperience. I have not KOd on my last few goes.

I'm not going to risk ordering it from abroad ever again though. I just dont fancy taking my chances with Border Force.
 
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KO was never my goal with Benzos, although it has happened a number of times - it's scary how it can happen without any warning.

Everybody be careful not to do anything fucked-up tomorrow, with drugs or otherwise... the ambulances are on strike. Stay safe. <3
 
what in my opinion makes the OD risk so much more relevant is the fact it has short half-life, but it still takes time to absorb through the stomach-so you are constantly on alterating blood levels, tweaking factors like stomach content and other drugs, difficult to keep on check with clock and so on. I have done benign OD (vomiting) in very controlled environment, just me, weed, monkey juice and peaceful night at home. That and steep dose-response curve, steeper than with alcohol.
 
Bleaney said:
If the test didn't mention any contaminant I'd presume they are not contaminated. Personally I would try a few. Bromozolam is an analogue of Aprazolam.

And if you like Alprazolam chances are you'd like Bromozolam. I really don't understand why some people have a problem with this. It makes absolutely no sense to me. Apart from the not getting what you ordered angle. (This isn't aimed at you in particular, it's a general comment about my observations)

Just because a benzo is a 'designer benzo', or analogue of something else, that doesn't necessarily mean its a bad thing. (Although it truly was in the case of Diclazepam, the designer analogue of diazepam. I really disliked that, made me feel very 'out of it', definitely not in a good way, lethargic and brain fogged, although it did have a modicum of effect on anxiety. Many people seemed to feel the same way about it. However, many of the designer benzos that emerged during the legal high era, were fantastic products. Pyrazolam and Etizolam were the pick of the bunch in my opinion. Pyrazolam was amazingly good for anxiety, and very light on the 'hypnotic', sleep inducing effects, but sadly it does not seem to available on clearnet sites and has returned to obscurity.

There's a lot of myths being peddled about things like Etizolam, saying that its not medically tested etc. this is misinformation. It was patented in 1972 and approved for medical use in 1983.

Wikipedia doesnt state whether bromozolam has been medically tested, so possibly it hasnt been. If you cant get a refund or replacement I would definitely still try them though.
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So I tried this phoney Diazepam (wedinos test came back as Bromazolam). In my experience its like peeps have said that it felt like Xanax. Not as effective as Xanax, but it does the job. I just had no feeling at all (in a good way). So, if you don't have access to the best stuff ie Daz and Xanax, then Bromozolam will suffice.
 
peace seeker 76 said:
So I tried this phoney Diazepam (wedinos test came back as Bromazolam). In my experience its like peeps have said that it felt like Xanax. Not as effective as Xanax, but it does the job. I just had no feeling at all (in a good way). So, if you don't have access to the best stuff ie Daz and Xanax, then Bromozolam will suffice.
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Good to hear that my hypothesis stood up to the test. No doubt I will probably end up with Bromazolam myself at some point, and no doubt I will try to use it. Hopefully it will agree with me. Can't see why it wouldn't, seeing as I like Alprazolam and Etizolam so much and they are both chemically very similar. As is Bromazolam.
 
Has anyone found using Carisoprodol/Soma by itself worth it? According to Psychonautwiki it can give euphoria geater than Benzos, but I know that's only a subjective opinion
 
Forever Changes said:
Has anyone found using Carisoprodol/Soma by itself worth it? According to Psychonautwiki it can give euphoria geater than Benzos, but I know that's only a subjective opinion
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I've tried it and it didn't work for me. All it did was make me feel sleepy. Add in even the tiniest amount of alcohol and the soporific effect is magnified greatly.

However, as I know I've already mentioned a few times, Soma + DHC is very nice (it feels very good and energetic). Avoiding alcohol completely is something I've worked out over the last couple of goes. I thought that a small amount (literally just sipping 1/3 of a large glass of wine with my dinner would be ok) but no, even that tiny amount of alcohol with the Soma put me to sleep, and wasted the high last night.

As I only use this combo quite rarely I have no tolerance. So 90mg of DHC and 750mg of Soma is all that is required. I can add a bit more soma after 2 or 3 hours as it tends to wear off that quickly, but re-dosing DHC is a bad idea for me. It makes me feel excessively sleepy (in waves) during the day times for up to 5-6 days afterwards! The combo is really pretty good, but that kind of toll is too high a payback to have to pay and the combo isn't so good that it''s worth that (imo). If I didnt have a job and have to be concerned about that getting noticed and potentially getting sacked then I probably would indulge in re-dosing the DHC so as to extend the sessions. But even one dose of DHC lasts several hours. The combo is very highly recommended in my book.
 
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Recently got hold of some Nitrazepam for the first time.

The verdict is very satisfactory, a pleasantly weighty zen-like feeling off just 10mg. It's similar to a happy stoned like feeling. Have just had another half a pill, as a second whole pill might well result in an abrupt falling to sleep.

10mg of Nitraz should be the same as 10mg of Diaz, or 1mg of Xanax etc. But it feels stronger, and heavier, but in a nice way. Bearing in mind that I am a bit of a benzo aficionado and GABA fiend.Maybe it's because I'm new to Nitrazepam and my brain has no tolerance to this new (to me) variety of benzos.
 
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Forever Changes said:
^cool. What was the brand of Nitraz?
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Arnite. I got the really very nice effects off the Nitraz at the end of a day where I had been using Kratom, modafinil, and alcohol. So it might have been the combo of everything that made the Nitraz so very nice. Further experiments will no doubt clariffy this.

Although the first time with any new benzo does tend to the best in my experience. When it's new to the brain, the effects seem particulary good. I had the same thing happen when I tried Lorazpepam for the first time, not that long ago. And with Etizolam many years ago now. Quite likely with all the different RC benzos Ive tried too, I cant accurately remember now each instance when I was a virgin to any new variety of benzo.. Even with diazepam if I've had a long break off not using it (a year or 2 or more) then it has hit me a lot nicer.
 
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THECATINTHEHAT said:
Nitrazepam is way superior to diazepam or alprazolam for abuse purposes imo. Triazolam is the holy grail.
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What about Temazepam? Have you tried that?

It's another one that I've yet to try but I've heard many people saying that it's a very enjoyable / euphoric benzo to partake of.

I've recently become aware of a few places that have it in stock, so I'm considering getting some in at some point quite soon. While it's available. As it definitely doesn't seem to be as regularly and easily available as some of the other types of benzo.
 
Yeah it’s good but it’s weak, you need a lot of it. Difficult to reliably find nitrazepam and temazepam on the black market too.

Basically the old school hypnotics are all way better than the anxiolytics imo.
 
Just wondering what u guys think of fake zopiclone? Most Ive seen are legit. Do they get faked or are they genuinely reliable unlike daz and xanax these days?
 
peace seeker 76 said:
Just wondering what u guys think of fake zopiclone? Most Ive seen are legit. Do they get faked or are they genuinely reliable unlike daz and xanax these days?
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You can search the recent submissions to Wedinos testing centre


you can search by keyword, and a quick search of recent Zopiclone submissions showed that about 6-7 out of 10 have tested genuine.

Sadly this does seem to be what things are coming to on the clearnets, seems to be a bit of a lottery sometimes.

One of many good things about Wedinos is that users send in pics of the blisters so you can readily see which types are getting faked, and which ones are kosher.

If you only want a one off, chances are the Drs would give you a legit one off prescription if you presented with severe insomnia due to severe stress about current life circumstances or something along those lines. You'd probably only get 1 or 2 weeks worth max, but at least you'd know they'd be genuine. You may then be able to work out your own taste test from there.
 
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