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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

Bleaney said:
The first one hit me really nicely and it's not been the same trying to get the same effect on subsequent nights. It seems like it's a good idea to rotate benzos, to have some that are only used occasionally. And that way you get a nicer hit when you do use them.
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that would be the best way to get the most out of them, nitraz are a treat but should be just that, a couple every so often
temaza hits me the way u say about nitraz, first time brilliant then chasing that, i find atleast. seen eggs about but cba with em
 
The price of some Temazepam eggs which I've recently seen on a Clearnet site was absolutely mental. There was no way of knowing if they are genuine for starters, (it's highly unlikely they are genuine, and also highly unlikely the site would even send fakes it looks that sketchy) and even if they were guaranteed to be genuine, even then the price is still way more than they could possibly ever be worth. The site looked very dodgy in general, so I have definitely given it a miss for too many reasons to list them all.
 
Bleaney said:
The price of some Temazepam eggs which I've recently seen on a Clearnet site was absolutely mental. There was no way of knowing if they are genuine for starters, (it's highly unlikely they are genuine, and also highly unlikely the site would even send fakes it looks that sketchy) and even if they were guaranteed to be genuine, even then the price is still way more than they could possibly ever be worth. The site looked very dodgy in general, so I have definitely given it a miss for too many reasons to list them all.
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When you add up the pros and cons, it's just not worth the price or a possibly deadly problem (because again, have there been any lab tests posted on them here?)
i got my hands on some real jellies once good load of years ago, one day a mate rang saying his fella just got outta jail and could get them then they were there for a day, then gone. Testing them out, everyone was fuck-o-ed and i was sitting on my 4th feeling 'a slight thing but nothing that'd make my legs jellied' i thought until i stood up and near went through the table lol
then another batch came and were absolute crap, in proper packaging but did nothing basically and put me off temaz kinda, made me realize id rather nitrazepam tbh
 
I've been failing to stick to my plan of only using Nitrazepam occasionally. I'm going to have to either have a word with myself, hope the novelty wears off, or just give in to temptation whenever I feel like it. The last option is not the one I want to be taking, if I know what is good for me.

The complicating thing for me is that I now believe i have ADHD (as well as Autism,) and this would totally explain my love of stimulants and being able to function very well on them. Fortunately it's currently easy to obtain modafinil and Kratom off the clearnets, which both fix what I think is my ADHD. But it makes sleeping even harder. Hence the appeal of Nitrazepam.

I got myself into a hell of a mess first time round trying to self medicate myself through this complicated situation. At least this time I understand myself so much better, have the benefit of experience, and will hopefully pass my ADHD assessment and potentially get on a Ritalin script which would be amazing. What it would do for my sleep though without increasing my benzo consumption even more I really cant figure that out at the moment. So I will have to see how things unfold.
 
Bleaney said:
I've been failing to stick to my plan of only using Nitrazepam occasionally. I'm going to have to either have a word with myself, hope the novelty wears off, or just give in to temptation whenever I feel like it. The last option is not the one I want to be taking, if I know what is good for me.

The complicating thing for me is that I now believe i have ADHD (as well as Autism,) and this would totally explain my love of stimulants and being able to function very well on them. Fortunately it's currently easy to obtain modafinil and Kratom off the clearnets, which both fix what I think is my ADHD. But it makes sleeping even harder. Hence the appeal of Nitrazepam.

I got myself into a hell of a mess first time round trying to self medicate myself through this complicated situation. At least this time I understand myself so much better, have the benefit of experience, and will hopefully pass my ADHD assessment and potentially get on a Ritalin script which would be amazing. What it would do for my sleep though without increasing my benzo consumption even more I really cant figure that out at the moment. So I will have to see how things unfold.
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I have tried and failed many times to use benzos responsibly, but euphoric ones like nitrazepam and etizolam have me twatted until I run out every time.
How are you with zopiclone? It's probably not a good long term thing, but it's less addictive that nitrazepam in my opinion.
You should speak to your doc, but I'd imagine dosing your ADHD meds early enough should leave you ok to sleep at night. I know a guy who got scripted speed for ADHD and he loved it at first, but tolerance set in quickly. If you can get by with modafinil it might be wiser to stick with that. I wouldn't expect someone to turn a script for speed down though! Maybe rotating the two could be helpful.
 
axe battler said:
I have tried and failed many times to use benzos responsibly, but euphoric ones like nitrazepam and etizolam have me twatted until I run out every time.
How are you with zopiclone? It's probably not a good long term thing, but it's less addictive that nitrazepam in my opinion.
You should speak to your doc, but I'd imagine dosing your ADHD meds early enough should leave you ok to sleep at night. I know a guy who got scripted speed for ADHD and he loved it at first, but tolerance set in quickly. If you can get by with modafinil it might be wiser to stick with that. I wouldn't expect someone to turn a script for speed down though! Maybe rotating the two could be helpful.
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What Benzos would you describe as euphoric apart from those two? I've been wanting to try Etizolam
 
BelleRed said:
Is this not drug dependency, Bleaney? Sounds as if for every problem you propose a drug as the solution. :(
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No. I have a way to go yet.

The thing is though that stimulants are an effective solution for ADHD. This is why they are the first line in prescribed medications for the condition. I could opt to take a redundancy from work rather than take a new job for which I will need medications that treat ADHD to enable me to function at it well enough not to be sacked. The workload is heavy and demanding, and I don't have the mental energy to get through it all for 8 hours every day otherwise. My choice is between this new role that I find tough going or take a redundancy, and so I'm going to try the route than enables me to stay in work right now. With all the uncertainties about the economy and unemployment rates potentially increasing over the coming months, making it harder to get another job, it feels like this is my only sensible option. It would not be sensible to turn down a job right now, even if that job is not right for me. Definitely not in the long term.

Also benzos are an effective solution for anxiety and insomnia.

Tolerance is the problem with both things though. At least I now fully understand why I'm drawn to both classes of drugs though.
 
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axe battler said:
I wouldn't expect someone to turn a script for speed down though! Maybe rotating the two could be helpful.
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Exactly, it sounds like a dream come true if I was to get it!

Yeah rotating stims sounds like a good idea. So i could potentially use kratom, modafinil, and ritalin (if I get the diagnosis and the script)

I find Zopiclone lasts too long into the next morning for me, making it hard to wake up and get up. Things like etizolam seem to have the perfect duration for a nights sleep, as it's worn off enough by morning so as not to make getting up too difficult.
 
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Bleaney said:
Exactly, it sounds like a dream come true if I was to get it!

Yeah rotating stims sounds like a good idea. So i could potentially use kratom, modafinil, and ritalin (if I get the diagnosis and the script)

I find Zopiclone lasts too long into the next morning for me, making it hard to wake up and get up. Things like etizolam seem to have the perfect duration for a nights sleep, as it's worn off enough by morning so as not to make getting up too difficult.
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But you mention using so many different drugs just to get by. Syreley that isn't the way to approach your life?
 
BelleRed said:
But you mention using so many different drugs just to get by. Syreley that isn't the way to approach your life?
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If I didn't have Autism (and social anxiety and insomnia) as a result of that, and suspected ADHD, and have to hold down a demanding job then it wouldn't be.

But I do, and I have to get by. I would rather try to get by than not work, either through choice, or through inability to get a job and hold it down. And believe me I could never even get through a job interview any longer without chemical assistance, such is the way I'm affected by my conditions. Something like 87% of people diagnosed with Autism are unemployed. That is the figure I keep hearing and seeing, so the difficulties are very real. Plus many people with Autism also have ADHD on top. Whether they know it or not, whether they are diagnosed or not.

You seem to be assuming that drugs are always a problem and never a solution, which is something I would disagree with.

It's a fact that drugs help me. It's not ideal, of course it's not. But I'm not giving up things that have solved many of my problems in recent years, rather than become a problem in themselves. . I admit that I'm not sure how long that can continue to be the case, as I am aware of the dangers of long term benzo use. And yes trying to juggle stimulant use with benzo use can easily become complicated at best. But I have to try. This is the path of least resistance for me, and one that I will always continue to choose as long as that continues to be the case.
 
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Forever Changes said:
What Benzos would you describe as euphoric apart from those two? I've been wanting to try Etizolam
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I'd stick alprazolam and diazepam on there too, as long as they're legit and my tolerance is low. I have quite an anxious streak in me though, so the euphoria could be partially the relief of symptoms.
I like other benzos, but it seems to be the sedating benzos with muscle relaxant qualities that are even more addictive. Once my tolerance gets to a certain point I turn into a totally irresponsible benzo'd zombie with zero euphoria, which makes me seek other drugs due to my lowered inhibitions. It happens within a few doses as well, sadly.
 
just looking at wedinos guys. A few Galenika products coming back as fake unfortunately.

Plus, anyone had one of those Xanax bars that was actually Xanax ? There all Bromazolam far as wedinos is concerned
 
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peace seeker 76 said:
Plus, anyone had one of those Xanax bars that was actually Xanax ? There all Bromazolam far as wedinos is concerned
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Yes I hear and see that a lot / if not all of those xanax bars are faked these days. I got some a few years ago, and am just about nearing the end of the supply now. I've not sent any off to be tested, but I think they are genuine Alprazolam, they have a very distinct bitter taste. I don't think they were manufactured to the highest standards though, some of the little cubes seem stronger than other so I crush a load of them down to powder, mix it up, and weigh out doses to the exact mg. THis has also had the advantage of allowing to me to keep my tolerance to below 1 xanax cube. THat weighs 80mg or so, and 60mg does the job for me. At first 16-20mg was sufficient after I'd taken 6 months off benzos! They are clearly mainly full of bulking agents rather than being pure alprazolam, as if they were pure 60mg of pure alprazolam would have me out for the count for days, at best.

I dont take these all the time, they are my going out socialsing benzo, so i take them 1 - 3 times a week. And this along with discipline has kept my tolerance low.

I got 2 batches of them and the 2nd batch wasn't as good as the first batch so I mix them all up. It seems that the bars aren't proffessionally made by real pharmaceutical companies. They are all back street jobs of one form or other, and these days none of them actually contain Alprazolam. Bromozolam is an analogue of Alprazolam though, so in theory it could work just as well. Also Etizolam is very similar chemically, I can't tell much difference in effects, other than the taste, and as I use etiz more often I have a larger tolerance and so need more of it.
 
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3 quarters of a single xanax bar cube. I guess they are meant to be 1mg doses but not sure. THey might be 2mg. No idea tbh. These 'street benzos' are wildly unpredictable. I use them purely to get rid of my anxiety when I go out, not for sleep. Because they are so good for anxiety, even at low doses, I dont want to wreck my doses and tolerance by using them for sleep.
 
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My rivotril from clearnet came legit, work's exactly like from pharmacy :) First page on wedinos say's all rivotril's have clonazepam, at second i've found one major clonazepam + diazepam and major clonazepam +minor tramadol
 
If they come in boxes like that I think they're more likely to be genuine, but you never know. It's still worth sending samples to Wedinos - I know it's a drag and takes some time.

I tried Tramadol once but didn't get anything from it - was wary to go too high a dose because apparently there's a risk of seizures
 
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