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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

peace seeker 76 said:
I saw a private psychiatrist last month (for £400😭😭), and he also refused to give me diazepam. Quoted some new UK medical directives about addiction and benzodiazepines.


Are NHS doctors still giving out codeine like sweets? They were (2015) a few years ago.
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If I see a private psychiatrist or DR, I will want to know up front whether they prescripe benzos. No way I'm paying them £400 only for them to turn around and say "no" :cautious:.

I can get that (precisely nothing) for free on the NHS.

My Grandmother was given a huge stash of codeine over the months she was in pain. Far more than she could take. She had a stockpile of dozens of boxes of 100 pils. I presume my uncle handed it all back in to the chemist after she died recently.
 
axe battler said:
Pretty much all black market diazepam at the moment is bromazolam or flubromazolam. I've been trying to get cheap Indian brands of different benzos which seem less likely to be fakes.
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The 'Martin Dow Roche' brand has been consistently reliable for years. Got my hands on some the other day. Used to use them all the time before switching to Bensedin (first on the street and then online as they were consistently decent) and I can see why people say that they are under dosed. Those ones from India or Pakistan or wherever pack a punch and I've never had fake ones, to my knowledge.
 
I am very much terrified of benzodiazepines because of how harmful they can be. I still have some hope that i might be able to handle a valium if I do need to take something.



"Bromazepam Tolerance, Dependence and Withdrawal​

When someone takes bromazepam over a period of time, the system develops a tolerance to it: in other words, it adjusts to a certain level of bromazepam and requires higher levels than that adjustment for bromazepam to have the same effects as it previously had. Similarly, when a person system becomes accustomed to that elevated level of bromazepam, it becomes reliant upon the presence of bromazepam to function normally; this is known as dependence.

When someone with a dependence to bromazepam stops taking the drug, the system is unable to function normally in a series of abnormal symptoms may manifest, collectively known as withdrawal. Withdrawal symptoms can be extremely unpleasant – and in the case of bromazepam and other benzodiazepines, even fatal – and will last for at least as long (and sometimes much longer) as it takes the individual’s system to readjust to the new absence of bromazepam.



How can I tell if a friend or family member has a bromazepam addiction?​

As noted above, it may be very difficult to identify an addiction in someone who is striving to conceal it. If you suspect someone close to you has a bromazepam addiction, do not confront them straightaway as you may alienate them and/or make the situation worse. Speak with an addiction specialist about how to approach them – and always ensure that you prioritize your own safety and that of other"
 
I don't know if if I have it right but if your gp won't prescribe valium etc it's usually for a reason.. and tor mb gives you access to ,,3rd rate analogues don't u think something ain't right here as your fucking around with bramazolam which I did topping up and was excellent at first euphoric and tasty till I was taking a card a day to feel normal 😐🙁 Nicht gut. I was been given cards all the time for errands etc but it had me by the ballz...I shifted to zopiclone who never hurt anyone 🤞. Tablets take longer than ought to vgive up. Just a thought.
 
peace seeker 76 said:
Martin Dow seem to consistently come up as containing diazepam on wedinos unlike actavis and accord which are all fake now.
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Yeah I used to get them all the time before Bensedin came along. People always said that bensedin were underdosed and, now that I've gotten my hands on some Martin Dows again, I see exactly what they mean. The bensedin tablets are good when they are actually diazepam (only had fakes once - still waiting on results) but I don't believe that they are actually 10mgs, and the MDs always feel stronger. Perhaps the bensedin were just out of date or stored badly or something. As for MDs, same taste and same feeling but stronger and much cheaper too but I never see them online. I don't trust the online vendors now, plus they are ridiculously expensive. I have three boxes of Prodes which came back as bromazolam and I actually have an idea as to how they could better fake the tablets but I don't want to give anybody any ideas. I was surprised that there was anything in them at all.

Wedinos only has one fake Martin Dow that I can see. I have sent a few from different strips for testing but I am pretty certain as I have been using diazies for years and I think that most people know a real one as soon as the taste hits. I can see bromazolam being useful for faking the xanax bars. I assume that the manufacturers think that people will just be happy to get a benzo of some sort but some of these 'novel' ones don't seem appealing and also don't have much info around them for people to really have an idea about what they are taking, from a harm reduction POV.

I suppose it beats chalk anyway.
 
pharaoh said:
Yeah I used to get them all the time before Bensedin came along. People always said that bensedin were underdosed and, now that I've gotten my hands on some Martin Dows again, I see exactly what they mean. The bensedin tablets are good when they are actually diazepam (only had fakes once - still waiting on results) but I don't believe that they are actually 10mgs, and the MDs always feel stronger. Perhaps the bensedin were just out of date or stored badly or something. As for MDs, same taste and same feeling but stronger and much cheaper too but I never see them online. I don't trust the online vendors now, plus they are ridiculously expensive. I have three boxes of Prodes which came back as bromazolam and I actually have an idea as to how they could better fake the tablets but I don't want to give anybody any ideas. I was surprised that there was anything in them at all.

Wedinos only has one fake Martin Dow that I can see. I have sent a few from different strips for testing but I am pretty certain as I have been using diazies for years and I think that most people know a real one as soon as the taste hits. I can see bromazolam being useful for faking the xanax bars. I assume that the manufacturers think that people will just be happy to get a benzo of some sort but some of these 'novel' ones don't seem appealing and also don't have much info around them for people to really have an idea about what they are taking, from a harm reduction POV.

I suppose it beats chalk anyway.
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" Prodes which came back as bromazolam " Saw wedinos today some prodes come back as bromazolam. So Prodes can go on the accord and actavis list of fake diazepam.

Really surprised by how much Galenika Bensedin is coming back as legit on wedinos, are they getting a cut?:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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peace seeker 76 said:
" Prodes which came back as bromazolam " Saw wedinos today some prodes come back as bromazolam. So Prodes can go on the accord and actavis list of fake diazepam.

Really surprised by how much Galenika Bensedin is coming back as legit on wedinos, are they getting a cut?:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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I've had bensedin for years and not had a fake batch until my last order. They were the most reliable online brand I knew of until I got 9 strips of chalky tabs. Waiting to see if they have anything in them.

God I remember getting Actavis years back that I was told were stolen from a pharmacy van and they were amazing. The story was probs BS and the guy was a low level wannabe gangster but they were banging. I was an idiot back then and remember that true benzo/booze/H combo of losing it and waking up with a bloody pillow and no memory of what happened the night before. Good Times.

Bensedin if you can get the real ones (I've got pics of the fakes and the two real strips that are good to go by if you purchase in person and are allowed to try before you buy) or Martin Dow but I don't know anywhere online that sells them. Haven't really looked tbh - I'm sure that they can be sourced.

I've had real prodes but there are too many fakes around, packeged up perfectly too. Had the fakes twice from different online vendors. Just can't believe that these contained an active ingredient. Ironically, I can get genuine diazepam for cheaper than I can by going through the process of the online gamble. Vendor was trustworthy for years and then suddenly this.
 
pharaoh said:
I've had bensedin for years and not had a fake batch until my last order. They were the most reliable online brand I knew of until I got 9 strips of chalky tabs. Waiting to see if they have anything in them.

God I remember getting Actavis years back that I was told were stolen from a pharmacy van and they were amazing. The story was probs BS and the guy was a low level wannabe gangster but they were banging. I was an idiot back then and remember that true benzo/booze/H combo of losing it and waking up with a bloody pillow and no memory of what happened the night before. Good Times.

Bensedin if you can get the real ones (I've got pics of the fakes and the two real strips that are good to go by if you purchase in person and are allowed to try before you buy) or Martin Dow but I don't know anywhere online that sells them. Haven't really looked tbh - I'm sure that they can be sourced.

I've had real prodes but there are too many fakes around, packeged up perfectly too. Had the fakes twice from different online vendors. Just can't believe that these contained an active ingredient. Ironically, I can get genuine diazepam for cheaper than I can by going through the process of the online gamble. Vendor was trustworthy for years and then suddenly this.
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In response to your story about medicines "stolen from a pharmacy van". Every time I fetch my sertraline from the chemist, I am always thinking about those stings on the news where a reporter would go round pharmacies and ask them for some diazepam and they'd get served.

Jeez, if my chemist did that, I'd sell my car, and with the proceeds, Id clean him out of Daizs, Xanax, and various other good stuff lol
 
peace seeker 76 said:
In response to your story about medicines "stolen from a pharmacy van". Every time I fetch my sertraline from the chemist, I am always thinking about those stings on the news where a reporter would go round pharmacies and ask them for some diazepam and they'd get served.

Jeez, if my chemist did that, I'd sell my car, and with the proceeds, Id clean him out of Daizs, Xanax, and various other good stuff lol
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look around for the non-chain store pharmacies or supermarkets. Find a small chemist run by corrupt Indians
 
peace seeker 76 said:
In response to your story about medicines "stolen from a pharmacy van". Every time I fetch my sertraline from the chemist, I am always thinking about those stings on the news where a reporter would go round pharmacies and ask them for some diazepam and they'd get served.

Jeez, if my chemist did that, I'd sell my car, and with the proceeds, Id clean him out of Daizs, Xanax, and various other good stuff lol
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Fuckin same! Any time I've been waiting in a pharmacy and looking over into the back where they keep the good stuff, I'm practically salivating. A huge part of me just wants to leap over the counter and grab what I can. Seriously tho some stuff must make it's way into the streets. I've had a big bottle of methadone before from a pharmacy and I've seen one for sale that had to have come from a pharmacy. The ins and outs of how it gets into the black market I'm unsure and don't really want to ask the people who could explain it lol.
 
pharaoh said:
The ins and outs of how it gets into the black market I'm unsure and don't really want to ask the people who could explain it lol.
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Many different reasons I guess. Some opportunist thefts no doubt, probably some organised crime, and some dodgy pharmacists. Like Jimmy Saville's Mate "JIm the pill" Lol. Dodgiest looking geezer ever!

I have to wonder why Saville was friends with such a dodgy looking pharmacist? Anything to do with access to Rohypnol I wonder lol. A mutually beneficial relationship no doubt!

Is that slander? I'd better say "allegedly" in that case.

 
I do remember some investigation a few years ago revealed a number of independent pharmacies (ie. the Indian ones) were selling Benzos to customers on the sly, but I wouldn't try it (unless I knew the pharmacist was dodgy ;) ) At least you wouldn't have to Wedinos that shit though....
 
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