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EADD Benzo Discussion V. Waking up in a Wakefield skip

peace seeker 76 said:
Anyone know if martin dow (diaz) is faked alot? Looks like UK is flooded with fakes now such as actavis diazepam and accord. I can't believe how good the fake packaging is these days (the included leaflet looks so legit as well!!!)

I only want a couple of strips after Dr wouldn't prescribe no more.

I got burned by accord diazepam. Stay away guys. Fake rubbish

Surely, in the long run, suppliers will lose money, reputation, and customers if they continue with the fake crap?
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faked like mad mate, theres been aload about, loose and in strips, best sticking to bensedines, loghmans, prodes etc if you can. the roche/martin dows that i seen that were fake had roche 10 on the pills, the real ones only had '10' pressed on and were from roche/martin dow strips
stay TF away from 'actrivas/accord' diaz unless it is seen coming from the pharmacy, too many rip offs of that now n the branding looks terrible too. Accord do actually do some great pills, like their nitraz but the diaz has been done to death (and caused a few...)
 
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faked like mad mate, theres been aload about, loose and in strips, best sticking to bensedines, loghmans, prodes etc if you can. the roche/martin dows that i seen that were fake had roche 10 on the pills, the real ones only had '10' pressed on and were from roche/martin dow strips
stay TF away from 'actrivas/accord' diaz unless it is seen coming from the pharmacy, too many rip offs of that now n the branding looks terrible too. Accord do actually do some great pills, like their nitraz but the diaz has been done to death (and caused a few...)
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Thanks for that👍
 
I was thinking of getting some Temazepam to try, as a vendor I know of say they have it in stock. However, the testing results for Temazepam from Wedinos are not encouraging. The majority of samples that have been sent in over recent months have not been Temazepam. It seems that only 2 or 3 samples out of 10 that were sent to Wedinos have been genuine. There's no point throwing money away on a dodgy order at the moment. Obviously I have no way of knowing in advance if the vendor I have used has kosher Temazepam or not. But it seems that the odds are that they will not.

So my wait to sample the ever elusive Temazepam continues. Just as well there are plenty of other options, and I can afford to be patient enough to wait until the sample testing results start looking a bit better.

I'll stick to Etizolam and Alprozolam for now as my regular benzos. I've never knowingly received fake Etiz; I don't think it get's faked, full stop. It gets used a lot for faking other benzos though. For some reason it doesn't seem to be very popular. Perhaps there's a lot of people that just don't know, just how good and effective it really is.
 
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Bleaney said:
I was thinking of getting some Temazepam to try, as a vendor I know of say they have it in stock. However, the testing results for Temazepam from Wedinos are not encouraging. The majority of samples that have been sent in over recent months have not been Temazepam. It seems that only 2 or 3 samples out of 10 that were sent to Wedinos have been genuine. There's no point throwing money away on a dodgy order at the moment. Obviously I have no way of knowing in advance if the vendor I have used has kosher Temazepam or not. But it seems that the odds are that they will not.

So my wait to sample the ever elusive Temazepam continues. Just as well there are plenty of other options, and I can afford to be patient enough to wait until the sample testing results start looking a bit better.

I'll stick to Etizolam and Alprozolam for now as my regular benzos. I've never knowingly received fake Etiz; I don't think it get's faked, full stop. It gets used a lot for faking other benzos though. For some reason it doesn't seem to be very popular. Perhaps there's a lot of people that just don't know, just how good and effective it really is.
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It's interesting what you say about Etizolam. Maybe I'll stop being a snob and try it. It appears to be simple to obtain. Hopefully it will help with a panic attack or high anxiety.
 
peace seeker 76 said:
It's interesting what you say about Etizolam. Maybe I'll stop being a snob and try it. It appears to be simple to obtain. Hopefully it will help with a panic attack or high anxiety.
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It is very effective for anxiety. The statement that it is 6 times more effective at treating anxiety compared to diazepam, at equivalent doses, has stood on the wikepedia page for many years without being challenged.

So presumably it is true.

It certainly feels a lot more effective subjectively to me..

It's quite short lasting and doesnt make you feel tired and lethargic when taken during the day. Safe to say that I have found Etizolam extremely useful. Life-changeingly so.
 
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Bleaney said:
It is very effective for anxiety. The statement that it is 6 times more effective at treating anxiety compared to diazepam, at equivalent doses, has stood on the wikepedia page for many years without being challenged.

So presumably it is true.

It certainly feels a lot more effective subjectively to me..

It's quite short lasting and doesnt make you feel tired and lethargic when taken during the day. Safe to say that I have found Etizolam extremely useful. Life-changeingly so.
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I’d take what’s written on Wikipedia with a shotgun of salt to the face.
 
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I’d take what’s written on Wikipedia with a shotgun of salt to the face.
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People may take the piss and laugh, but I happen to believe it. Simply because it feels like that is the case.

6 times more effective than Diazepam as an anxiolytic. Yep, I'm having that.
 
pharaoh said:
Been getting Bensedin Galenika Diazies for a long time now, always reliable and from a decent vendor. Latest batch however, the writing on the strips is black rather than blue and the tablets - whilst having that slight sweet valium taste initially - go quite crumbly, bitter and chalky quite quickly. Gonna send them off for a test but has anyone had these? I've been super chilled but that could always be a placebo. I've heard people say that the black writing is the new branding but the tablets are much different in terms of the chalky quality. Anyway I'd love to hear from others. There are all kinds of horror stories, including with fentanyl although I don't believe that. However I have recently kicked H and don't want to end up accidentally picking up an opiate habit again!

Once I get the test results I'll share them here incase anyone else uses this brand.

Dunno if this is allowed but this is a picture of the strip - haven't seen these on Wedinos yet so I might be the first to have them tested. https://ibb.co/587w7Cf
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The bensedins are being faked a lot now sadly. The black writing was a legit move, bit I have a feeling the fakers are getting their hands on legit packaging.
 
Yeah I just got another box from a different vendor to try my luck and it was the exact same batch, same serial number, chalky tablets that crumble after a while and have a slight bitter taste.

Gonna send them to Wedinos to see if there is anything in them at all, as I would be content with some kind of benzo until I can get decent ones or switch to another. One of the latest results for Bensedin on Wedinos did not contain diazepam but the packaging is different - the old blue font, which I always found reliable. Haven't seen the new black font on there so far.

Not sure if this is allowed but I am happy to tell people privately which vendors have had these (edit: nope, sorry, love Ax x)and I'd generally advise to stay away from Bensedin altogether. Used to be the best brand around IMO. Now you are paying for a box of what seem to be chalk pills.

It's a real shame for those of us who actually rely on these meds due to anxiety issues and an intolerance to things Like SSRIs. I also know of terminally ill people that use these vendors to get certain meds that the NHS won't give them and to think of them being screwed by greedy manufacturers really pisses me off. But we all know about the negatives that come with prohibition eh?
 
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pharaoh said:
Yeah I just got another box from a different vendor to try my luck and it was the exact same batch, same serial number, chalky tablets that crumble after a while and have a slight bitter taste.

Gonna send them to Wedinos to see if there is anything in them at all, as I would be content with some kind of benzo until I can get decent ones or switch to another. One of the latest results for Bensedin on Wedinos did not contain diazepam but the packaging is different - the old blue font, which I always found reliable. Haven't seen the new black font on there so far.

Not sure if this is allowed but I am happy to tell people privately which vendors have had these and I'd generally advise to stay away from Bensedin altogether. Used to be the best brand around IMO. Now you are paying for a box of what seem to be chalk pills.

It's a real shame for those of us who actually rely on these meds due to anxiety issues and an intolerance to things Like SSRIs. I also know of terminally ill people that use these vendors to get certain meds that the NHS won't give them and to think of them being screwed by greedy manufacturers really pisses me off. But we all know about the negatives that come with prohibition eh?
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It's such a disgrace if the NHS wont even give benzos to terminally ill people. How fucking heartless can you get. It honestly makes me rage and despair at the same time. What the fuck does it matter if a medication can be habit forming, at that point!??

Thank fuck for all these clearnet sites. I see people on non drug sites in desperate plights due to having had their benzo scripts stopped in dreadful circumstances.. I don't know if i'd be doing the right thing to tell them about clearnet sites. I haven done up till now. I guess its up to people to find these things out if they want them.
 
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It must depend on your ailment. I know of 2 close family members, both now deceased, one of whom was given a morphine drip for stage 3 cancer, and the other codeine for multiple conditions. Neither was of a particularly anxious disposition.

But what if they had been? Tough shit? Forced onto the clearnet? Both were way too respectable for that.
 
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Looking on wedinos, avoid D10's unless you want a random dose of bromazolam, same with some VERY blue looking diaz pills (guessing here only but im gonna say the 'roche 10' stamp but thats just my guess, not fact)
pharaoh said:
Yeah I just got another box from a different vendor to try my luck and it was the exact same batch, same serial number, chalky tablets that crumble after a while and have a slight bitter taste.

Gonna send them to Wedinos to see if there is anything in them at all, as I would be content with some kind of benzo until I can get decent ones or switch to another. One of the latest results for Bensedin on Wedinos did not contain diazepam but the packaging is different - the old blue font, which I always found reliable. Haven't seen the new black font on there so far.

Not sure if this is allowed but I am happy to tell people privately which vendors have had these (edit: nope, sorry, love Ax x)and I'd generally advise to stay away from Bensedin altogether. Used to be the best brand around IMO. Now you are paying for a box of what seem to be chalk pills.

It's a real shame for those of us who actually rely on these meds due to anxiety issues and an intolerance to things Like SSRIs. I also know of terminally ill people that use these vendors to get certain meds that the NHS won't give them and to think of them being screwed by greedy manufacturers really pisses me off. But we all know about the negatives that come with prohibition eh?
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if they have a bitter taste, they will contain something to have caused that taste. weird to hear more and more saying that their bensedins are fake whilst still buying the old styled strips, as i still have some from the old looking strips and obviously the new looking strips, i went and looked there through my benzo box collection for the old strips and the difference from the wedinos W029209 result and both strips i have infront of me is the font on the G of the galenika skuff, there are no indents on the strip in that wedinos result either. Wedinos result 000039502 strip has no serial number to the very right of the strip and diamond indents (something i didn't notice, an artist friend did tho), the last one i seen like this years ago it didn't even contain anything, nevermind bromazolam and was chalky as fuck. Seems like all the new packaging ones are sound so id stick with them if ya can.
If i find a big difference in texture and/or lack of any taste even (which is my first tell that there is either no benzo or a benzo that is working in the ug range, like flubromazolam). I'd had some prodes that were exactly like this, chalky and no taste = red flag.
My second tell is normally down to taste, i find that most benzos have a specific taste to me, whilst some have bitter taste (alpraz), some are minty (clonaz) some are unique (diaz and nitraz) and others can feel weird/tingly when taken sublingual (hemofarm lorazepam, im looking at you!) to no taste like flubromazolam. im wondering what bromazolam's dose is and what it tastes like.
 
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Bleaney said:
I was thinking of getting some Temazepam to try, as a vendor I know of say they have it in stock. However, the testing results for Temazepam from Wedinos are not encouraging. The majority of samples that have been sent in over recent months have not been Temazepam. It seems that only 2 or 3 samples out of 10 that were sent to Wedinos have been genuine. There's no point throwing money away on a dodgy order at the moment. Obviously I have no way of knowing in advance if the vendor I have used has kosher Temazepam or not. But it seems that the odds are that they will not.

So my wait to sample the ever elusive Temazepam continues. Just as well there are plenty of other options, and I can afford to be patient enough to wait until the sample testing results start looking a bit better.

I'll stick to Etizolam and Alprozolam for now as my regular benzos. I've never knowingly received fake Etiz; I don't think it get's faked, full stop. It gets used a lot for faking other benzos though. For some reason it doesn't seem to be very popular. Perhaps there's a lot of people that just don't know, just how good and effective it really is.
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check out wedinos test result W029170 for temazepam, be very careful as some got bromazolam and Xylazine in them, why someone would add that, who the fuck knows
 
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