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EADD Benzo Discussion v. Finally remembered to start a new thread.

nearly a week free of benzos and hope to keep it that way, cant afford to have shaky hands in my line of work. I still made use of my vendors black friday sale though. got myself 25 4mg flubro for about £12 which is a bargain considering 100mg of powder costs me £18 usually. At least with flubro the long half life puts me off because of how wrecked they make me feel the next couple days. Great in small doses for long distance traveling!
 
Have had a bit of a haphazard journey through benzoland the past 6 years. Mosstly rec abuse but as the booze has taken a lold on me more and more they have be came a necessity sadly.

I used to be obsessed by them. I was one of those sad fuckers on topix arguing over the difference in bensidin and apaurin. fucked me up right and proper.

They really do nothing for me rec wise anymore ( I don't really think they ever did tbh) Tolerance became crazy.

They've now become a necessity due to the drink. I'm a fuckin mess socially. Balance is all over the shop. Can't look at folk in the eye basically can't function.

I've found pyrazolam a fuckin godsend if I'm being honest. How threy never made it to market fuck knows. 1mg in the morning and I'm a goodin. I'm not triping over myself walking past people. Can actually function.

Its like your not even on a med. It weird as fuck. The abuse potential is zero. I used to have to leave my stash with my other half but with these theres no need.

They remind me a bit of librium as I suppose I never got any red value from them but they did work for anxiety coming off drink.
 
ColtDan said:
The abuse potential is zero? Lol what.


Bollocks.
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Should have thrown on a "IMO" I suppose. I could eat a shit load of them and feel no more than the effects I did from 1-2mg.

Bit like Librium like I posted above. I've took a whole 2 weeks script of librium and felt fuck all.

Do you get any rec feelings off them? I find the give off absolutely fuck all sedation or hypnotic fellings.

Suppose if you gutty them in mad amounts for weeks on end you gonna be in for a hard time me but what I was getting at was that from my experience there was no rec effects so there'd be no reason.
 
Fuckin' 'ell. Refill day's Monday (weekly refills), down to my last two lorazepams, and I have a focal seizure. I'm twitching all over and my eyesight is fucked. Can't take more than a stupid 1mg for fear of not having any tomorrow. Didn't help that I ended up drinking at a friend's house earlier. That took a long time to type without errors. Tonight is going to be a heap of shite.
 
Feel for ya mate. Not the best of advice but if its just Monday you have to make it to then booze maybe your best friend. Again not the best advice but I've been there and I'd rather hit the drink for relieve than be crippled with anxiety/panic.
 
Am i allowed to ask this question:? Anyone know if RC benzos like diclaz would show up on a drugs test? I gather that it's 'built on a diazepam skeleton' so i guess it probably would. :\

Also is it just me or is anyone else finding the white vageuly citrus diclaz perhaps inconsistent, with some inactive pellets amongs the good ones. Im thinking of grinding the whole lot down in a blender and adding the powder to PG. At least it will then be a consistent strength, but im not sure how well ground pills will dissolve in PG, especially with the binders and fillers to take into account. Has anyone attempted anything like this?

Hope you made it through ok to monday Kota, must be a horrible feeling to run out of supplies.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
Am i allowed to ask this question:? Anyone know if RC benzos like diclaz would show up on a drugs test? I gather that it's 'built on a diazepam skeleton' so i guess it probably would. :\

Also is it just me or is anyone else finding the white vageuly citrus diclaz perhaps inconsistent, with some inactive pellets amongs the good ones. Im thinking of grinding the whole lot down in a blender and adding the powder to PG. At least it will then be a consistent strength, but im not sure how well ground pills will dissolve in PG, especially with the binders and fillers to take into account. Has anyone attempted anything like this?

Hope you made it through ok to monday Kota, must be a horrible feeling to run out of supplies.
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I got through okay, thanks. Was rough, but I made it.

I've already taken 3mg lorazepam today, and am not really feeling it, so am just going to get shitfaced on loraz and zopiclone. Wish I had some RC backup. I also wish I were on monthly scripts so I could refill early if I needed to.
 
yeah some of the sites have dsicount deals, last time i looked.

Anyone know about the grinding pills down with a blender and adding to PG? Anyone tried? I may be slightly paranoid about the 'unreliable vendor pellets' but sometimes the same dose just doesnt do anything, other times it does. 8( A homogonous blend would solve that problem.
 
Not sure about that MDB, seeing as there is only supposed to be 1mg per pellet (diclaz) and the rest is binder. it might just turn into a gooey mess. there is maybe a way to extract the active ingredients with isopropyl alcohol then strain the mixture to get rid of the binder, evap then add whats left to pg? not sure on the solubility of diclaz or the binder in alcohol though and you still wont know how much your left with considering the pellets might vary in dosage.
 
yeah i might just try a few pellets in a small amount of pg, although i wont know exactly how much is in there, if it dissolves ok at least it will be a consistent strength throughout. The isopropyl alcohol extraction and evap process feels like far too much hassle atm, but i might look into it later on, if this continues to be a problem. I think its possibly just as much to do with the fact that im still getting up and going to sleep at very random hours.
 
Was tearing my skin up with my hands because it was crawling so badly, being super sensitive to light (almost broke the TV turning it off in a hurry), and went to hide in the dark. Then my dad got home and unlocked the meds cabinet. I've made a miraculous recovery. Benzos might be the worst of masters, but they're the best of servants.
 
4mg lorazepam and some pink wine tonight. Not as much as normal because I'm watching my script. I was only supposed to have 1mg per day left until the end of this script but I found a little collection. Not really feeling it. The ones I took earlier helped my anxiety about my school meeting a lot, but the ones I'm taking tonight haven't really hit. and it's been an hour. These are Genesis generics.
 
Had etiz for the first time in weeks tonight, 3mg and I feel absolutely battered (in a very pleasant way), haven't had effects like this in a long time even in higher doses, so must have finally brought my tolerance down to an normal level. Feels proper nice but don't want to make a habit of this, definitely something for very occasional treats or for emergencies from now on. Enjoying it for now, reckon sleep will come soon though.
 
ColtDan said:
The abuse potential is zero? Lol what.

Bollocks.
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Yeah, I used to get through a 100 tablets bag of pyrazolam in just over a week for months before my incident. Last spring and all throughout the summer I was eating up to 17 a day. I find diclazepam to be much less moreish and fiendy. But pyraz for me is just as abusable as xanax.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
yeah some of the sites have dsicount deals, last time i looked.

Anyone know about the grinding pills down with a blender and adding to PG? Anyone tried? I may be slightly paranoid about the 'unreliable vendor pellets' but sometimes the same dose just doesnt do anything, other times it does. 8( A homogonous blend would solve that problem.
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I had diclaz powder in the summer, top notch stuff. To be respected and handled with care(don't fucking dab it like I did). If you do liquid measuring it's much more reliable than the pellets. Some of the pellets are completely unreliable, a few are bunk and some have probably three times the amount of active ingredient they should have. With some vendors I can take 5 pellets and not feel a thing, while other batches I take 3 and I'm floored.
 
I'm currently alternating between diclaz pellets, which were very cheap on special offer, and etiz PG mix. The etiz just doesnt hit the spot some nights, as im trying to keep a ceiling on my dosing, i cant feel its' effects atall some nights so i have some diclaz pellets to top up with if im still awake at 4am or something.

Im well used to having benzo powders around, never been a benzo powder dabbler. I don't 'spose it matters too much at this stage if i cant be 100% guarenteed that every single diclaz pellet will contain exactly 1mg, but as my taper progresses it will become more important.

Im trying to find out if i can turn these diclaz pills that i got cheaply on special offer into a powder that will dissolve in PG so as to make the whole batch a completely consistent and reliable strength so that i can use it with confidence for a taper, without having to fork out any more money to buy pure diclaz powder.

My taper is currently a complete disorganised mess, ive got enough etiz powder to complete the job, but i sometimes feel like ive completely blown my tolerance to etiz, so i switch to diclaz when the etiz doesnt work. I guess I'd be better off more determinately sticking to just the etiz whether i can feel the effects of a 12mg dose or not. If i dont sleep one night, id probably sleep the next one, and eventually my tolerance should start going down. In theory. I hope. But obviously its just so much easier to take some diclaz pills of unknown strength rather than lie in bed wide awake all night.8(

I'll be switching to diclaz at some point nearer the end anyway, due to its longer half-life.
 
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At just about the worst possible moment (rather than the day i start my new job) im coming to the conclusion that the remains of my most recent etiz/PG mix are not disolved properly in the mix, or have 'seperated out' over time. The batch must be several months old by now. Now i cant be sure exactly how much im taking with any given dose.

Last night i shook the jar vigorously to shake up all the particles that had seperated out that were presumably 'impurities'. And i slept right through my alarm going off for 70 minutes this morning.:\ Obviously this would be a complete disaster to have this happen again on day 1 of new job on Monday. :|

Thankfully i still have some of the proper intaas blisters remaining, so i can take them to be sure i know exactly how much I'll be taking on days when its crucial that i dont oversleep, and also that i dont take too little that i cant get to sleep atall. I can try and figure out how strong this mix is after shaking the jar on days its not critical that i have to be somewhere at a certain time. Like tonight. I'll shake the bottle and have 8ml rather than 10ml. Times like this is where homemade pg benzo mixes can cause problems. The vendor pressed pills are not much better though, you never know with them whether you're getting 0mg etizolam or 6mg from one pellet to the next. :!

There have been a lot of other variables in play over the last couple of months, including things like taking sedating strains of kratom, and waiting for GBL doses to wear off before taking etiz, on all those GBL nights the etiz didnt seem to work atall, in asmuch as i didnt get to sleep until 7am or something, so i put it down to the gbl, and not even considering the possiblty that the pg mix had seperated out. There hasnt been any GBL consumed for at least 2 days. So i think i can definately rule that out, i had only taken in 2 nights running, and before that hadnt touched it for 7-10 days, maybe even a fortnight, not exactly sure.

This is a disaster. But better to discover that now than monday morning. 8(
 
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