driving while rolling/tripping

[calygula]

MDMA+driving =good stuff

alch or acid + driving = nogo



as long as you pass the intense peak on mdma or mda driving is easy I have done that 100's of times.

BTW BENZO'S +DRIVING IS MORONIC

yes benzos are probablly the worst thing you can drive on

 

[DrUgMeSaNe]

WHY do you NEED to drive while you are this fucked up????
WHY do you think this is FUN????

people dont NEED to drive when their rolling,but in my experience, it has been slightly necessary for someone under the influence to drive...im 16, so i cant drive, meaning most of my friends (who are also 16) cannot drive. the few people who can drive, do not want to miss on out all the fun juss because they drive--not only that, but at my age, we dont have our own houses- we live with our parents, meaning a typical night out is riding around stopping at peoples houses--and if there is trouble at a place we go to roll, someone needs to drive to get us out of there...and like i said before, few of my friends can legally drive- i dont no anyone who finds driving while rolling, or on any drug to be fun
plus, driving drunk is worse- i dunno this for a fact, but im sure there are more drunk driving related accidents than those when on E

 

[VelocideX]

^ Just because there are MORE drunk driving incidents than those involving MDMA doesn't make driving under the influence of MDMA any better.

Whilst on the road you owe an inviolable duty of care to other road users, which includes you driving not under the influence. End of story

 

[VelocideX]

Re: Re: driving while rolling/tripping

dude driving on alcohol is much worse than rolling. i believe that tree monster quote was from someone on mda, which is more trippy than mdma. on straight mdma your driving isn't that fuct (i'm not saying i endorse this..), not nearly as badly as if you were tripping, on mda, or on alcohol.

Once again, just because alcohol is worse doesn't make it ok.

Murder is worse than violent assault, but that doesn't make assault OK.

 

[VelocideX]

Well i dont condone driving at all while on anything. But I think its ok for ME, to drive on uppers. I have driven on E before, but i wasnt fucked, and i had full controll over myself. I would never drive when coming up, or take my pills while driving. The way i see it is, i would rather be driving when im still a lil high, rather than when im burnt out and in a shitty mood.

What makes you think that you're judgment is any less impaired on stimulants than anyone elses?

People who are over the alcohol limit usually think they're fine to drive as well. That's the problem. Your objective driving performance on drugs is massively worse than your subjective performance.

 

[mrsmitconh]

But I just cannot imagine being responsible for something unfortunate that happened because I was ROLLING or TRIPPING while I was driving.

Shouldn't this thread read "Driving whilst intoxicated".

No moral high ground here. Many of us have and do drive whilst intoxicated which isn't clever. There are no good reasons to do so but like all things in life it's a risk you are either willing or unwilling to take.

So using a mobile phone, lighting a ciggie, eating/drinking, talking to your friend or driving like a fuckin' loonie ... acceptable or not? Legal or not?

You know the law, so you decide what's acceptable and you pay the price!!

 

[Jewfolife16]

Re: Re: driving while rolling/tripping

dunno this for a fact, but im sure there are more drunk driving related accidents than those when on E

Common sense should let you figure this one out. Drivers Ed doesn't teach you about the dangers of rolling while driving because the biggest issue at hand is driving under the influence of alcohol.

 

[razzamatazm]

Yeah... i just don't want to get pulled over and have a cop come to the window with me telling him how nice he is and how much i love him ... and i hate killing people, i mean once in a while's fine, but not just randomly...

 

[deroxor]

What makes you think that you're judgment is any less impaired on stimulants than anyone elses?

People who are over the alcohol limit usually think they're fine to drive as well. That's the problem. Your objective driving performance on drugs is massively worse than your subjective performance.

But with alcohol im not clear headed, i may be cocky and confident but im not clear headed. Unlike on E and other stims, where im clear headed and i know whats going on. The only thing that could get in the way of my proper judgement, is the overconfidence. Im not saying its right, im just stating that I, Myself can drive properly. I wait untill atleast 2+ hours after ive started rolling though, so im not really too fucked up.

But what else makes me think that my judgement is less impared while on stims???? well i got high on dexedrine before i went to take my roadtest, and passed, only made 2 mistakes. Was outta town, and tanked with a bunch of friends. We had to get home, but everyone was too drunk to drive, so i bought a half gram of coke and did some, and it made me sober enough to drive home (Yah i know, it was one of the stupidest things ive done) And I have driving various friends home safely from raves that where too fucked up to drive themselfs.

once again I know its wrong, but I can manage.

 

[VelocideX]

Shouldn't this thread read "Driving whilst intoxicated".

No moral high ground here. Many of us have and do drive whilst intoxicated which isn't clever. There are no good reasons to do so but like all things in life it's a risk you are either willing or unwilling to take.

So using a mobile phone, lighting a ciggie, eating/drinking, talking to your friend or driving like a fuckin' loonie ... acceptable or not? Legal or not?

You know the law, so you decide what's acceptable and you pay the price!!

Wrong. You decide what's acceptable and some innocent bystander pays the price when you crash into him/her and kill him/her.

 

[rik_q]

Wrong. You decide what's acceptable and some innocent bystander pays the price when you crash into him/her and kill him/her.

Exactly, driving whiling intoxicated is just completely irresponsible! The outcomes from traffic accidents are normally very nasty!

 

[mrsmitconh]

Wrong. You decide what's acceptable and some innocent bystander pays the price when you crash into him/her and kill him/her.

Don't mis-quote me please "You know the law, so you decide what's acceptable and you pay the price!!"

I'm taking no moral high ground ... again ... meh. It's perfectly clear what I meant!
By "pay the price" that obviously includes third parties i.e. your life could be fucked mentally, emotionally, physically and finacially for the rest of your days by virtue of the fact ... 3rd party or a mate or ...
Select check boxes to apply for personal STUPIDITY award.
It was raining
I didn't have the bus fare
and just as valid as ...
I was fucked off my face and couldn't make a reasonable judgement call
My mates made me do it

Just say no, is not an option!!
It'll happen anyway cos' people know better.

Anyway my point ....
Shouldn't this thread read "Driving whilst intoxicated".

 

[2oclockbeanfiend]

just look at all some of the potential side effects erowid listed for mdma:

-sensations bright and intense
-visual distortion
-rapid, involuntary eye jiggling (nystagmus)
-mild visual hallucinations (uncommon)
-restlessness, nervousness, shivering
-difficulty concentrating & problems with activities requiring linear focus
-short-term memory scramble or loss & confusion
nausea and vomiting
-headaches, dizziness, loss of balance, and vertigo

i have experienced nearly all of these while under the influence of mdma. nearly all of these have the potential to cause complications while driving a motor vehicle.

some potential side effects erowid listed for alcohol:

-drowsiness, sleepiness
-nystagmus, difficulty focusing eyes
-decreased coordination
-nausea, vomiting
-reduced impulse control
-dizziness and confusion
-blackouts and memory loss at high doses

i've experienced all these under the influence of alcohol.

but clearly, both of these substances have the potential to cause some serious complications when driving a motor vehicle.

 

[VelocideX]

Just say no, is not an option!!
It'll happen anyway cos' people know better.

You're saying that people are incapable of not doing drugs. Part of responsible drug taking is organising how you and your friends can get home. I've got a cab home or public transport plenty of times. If you really have to drive there, then you should wait at the party (and sleep in your car) until you're sufficiently well rested and capable of driving safely. If that means you don't get home until midday the next day or later, then so be it.

If you're that disrespectful of the lives of everyone else on the road then you aren't mature to be driving or doing drugs.

 

[VelocideX]

I was fucked off my face and couldn't make a reasonable judgement call
My mates made me do it

So you succumb to peer pressure? How spineless are you?

You're not 12 anymore. The peer pressure response doesn't cut it in the slightest. You have to accept responsibility for your own actions, and acknowledge that ultimately it was YOU who made you do it, and YOU who are in control, not your friends.

you are the driver. it is your responsibility to ensure that you are sufficiently capable of driving safely and within the law and no-one elses

 

[smotpoker]

I think it IS fun to drive while rolling, and while drunk, and definitely while tripping!!!!!

But is it dangerous, hell yeah it is! But then again so is bungee jumping, or skydiving.

Have I done it before, yes, and I think most everyone who gets fucked up and has a liscense, has prolly done it a time or two. And if you haven't, then I commend you.

And it is definitely a selfish and stupid thing to do.

 

[2oclockbeanfiend]

^ your comparison to bungee jumping and skydiving is exactly the point
those activities only endanger you
driving intoxicated endangers not only you (and anyone else in your vehicle) but anyone else on the road with you

 

[AnonAce]

honest perspective:

I drive all the time while under the influence of various "intoxicants." I consider myself a much better than average driver, and also think I know myself well enough to know when I'm capable of driving or not. I've found alcohol to be the worst judgment/driving/etc. substance (aside from acid... now that's a trip).

If you have to drive, drive... but only if you are confident in your skills and abilities. If you aren't sure if you can control the car, either let someone else drive.. or find some 24 hr restaurant to chill at.

I've been pulled over while high (weed), rolling, drunk, and on other substances on occasion... I've been lucky in never having it been noticed, and worst offense received was a speeding ticket. I drive when I have to, unless I absolutely can't. I'm not sure if I recommend that though.

-AA

 

[VelocideX]

If you have to drive, drive... but only if you are confident in your skills and abilities. If you aren't sure if you can control the car, either let someone else drive.. or find some 24 hr restaurant to chill at.

It's not about whether you can control the car, it's about whether you can control the car well, with sufficient dilligence and to the standard required by society. I would argue you're incapable of doing this.

 

[PurrrinInOk]

I think it IS fun to drive while rolling, and while drunk, and definitely while tripping!!!!!

But is it dangerous, hell yeah it is! But then again so is bungee jumping, or skydiving.

Have I done it before, yes, and I think most everyone who gets fucked up and has a liscense, has prolly done it a time or two. And if you haven't, then I commend you.

And it is definitely a selfish and stupid thing to do.

Commend away, because I have never driven under the influence of anything. When you skydive and/or bungee jump, the risks are obviously to your OWN life. When you get behind the wheel of a vehicle under the influence of any substance, (even prescription drugs) you are risking other peoples lives.

You might as well be carrying a fully loaded AK-47 walking down the street, shooting it randomly towards a crowd of innocent people!

Yes you are right, it is selfish and very very stupid.