Cocaine doing coke alone

[lost weekend]

Nice little easter egg.

The capsule is in fact clobenzorex and it does technically contain two hydrochloride moieies (sort of) so 'phenyldihydrobenzorex' isn't technically correct but is quite possibly how someone with at least some knowledge of chemistry might try to describe it. I would give an O-level student 3 out of 5 as they note the two benzene rings, the benzylic moiety and what might appear to be two hydrogen-chlorine bonds.

I would credit them with having made an informed guess because effort was made to overcome gaps in their knowledge.

I suppose one might term it a farce-à-clef in that the script, set and acting all conjoin to make it a fantastic scene, BUT the author went that extra mile to nod to those few people who would recognize the capsule and understand that Danny the Dealer is playing with Withnail's expectations... since it seems he was their drug dealer, he of all people would KNOW the pair were about to crash so implying that he was offering a powerful sedative was to lure Withnail.

The joke of course being that it's a STIMULANT so rewind the clip and it opens with I (Bruce Robinson) talking about how chronic stimulant abuse strips away a person's nervous system until the inevibable crash.

FYI I was on nodding terms with a small group of Gabber fans from Leiden University. They all consumed far, far to many illicit amphetamine-type stimulants. But their idea of a joke was if one of them fell asleep the others would use a fine brush to paint a layer of their 'whizz-de-jour' onto the lips of their slumbering companion. Then scream... Think about it, when startled awake, if a person feels something is on their lips, the instinct is to abstract whatever it is using the tongue. I think it a very similar and very cruel trick. I mention it just to show that such things really do happen.

Worse still, if they judged (speed freaks being renowned for judgment) a member was consuming to much of their yaba they would spike them with acid! For fun!!

Our drunken capers never got to that level,they were mostly very crude like trying to shave off someone's eye brow when they were passed out ,saying that I might have preferred to go home to my mother and father with half an eye brow rather than a head full of acid lol

 

[lost weekend]

Nice little easter egg.

The capsule is in fact clobenzorex and it does technically contain two hydrochloride moieies (sort of) so 'phenyldihydrobenzorex' isn't technically correct but is quite possibly how someone with at least some knowledge of chemistry might try to describe it. I would give an O-level student 3 out of 5 as they note the two benzene rings, the benzylic moiety and what might appear to be two hydrogen-chlorine bonds.

I would credit them with having made an informed guess because effort was made to overcome gaps in their knowledge.

I suppose one might term it a farce-à-clef in that the script, set and acting all conjoin to make it a fantastic scene, BUT the author went that extra mile to nod to those few people who would recognize the capsule and understand that Danny the Dealer is playing with Withnail's expectations... since it seems he was their drug dealer, he of all people would KNOW the pair were about to crash so implying that he was offering a powerful sedative was to lure Withnail.

The joke of course being that it's a STIMULANT so rewind the clip and it opens with I (Bruce Robinson) talking about how chronic stimulant abuse strips away a person's nervous system until the inevibable crash.

FYI I was on nodding terms with a small group of Gabber fans from Leiden University. They all consumed far, far to many illicit amphetamine-type stimulants. But their idea of a joke was if one of them fell asleep the others would use a fine brush to paint a layer of their 'whizz-de-jour' onto the lips of their slumbering companion. Then scream... Think about it, when startled awake, if a person feels something is on their lips, the instinct is to abstract whatever it is using the tongue. I think it a very similar and very cruel trick. I mention it just to show that such things really do happen.

Worse still, if they judged (speed freaks being renowned for judgment) a member was consuming to much of their yaba they would spike them with acid! For fun!!

Our drunken capers never got to that level,they were mostly very crude like trying to shave off someone's eye brow when they were passed out ,saying that I might have preferred to go home to my mother and father with half an eye brow rather than a head full of acid lol

 

[4DQSAR]

No, I've met and interacted with far more dealers than most and at best expect total disinterest but a professional manner. They have something to sell, you want to buy that thing. Business over, they just leave without a backward glance. Business is just business and they see dealing as just a step to get the money to do something (more) legal.

But I would say the MAJORITY like the power. In fact are themselves addicted to the power. I've watched a group of dodgy E dealers who one week couldn't get any E so they bought speed and microdots of LSD, crushed them together, put them into gelatin capsules and went off to sell their produce AS E.

But worse, 'as a laugh' they would crush 4-5 microdots and put them in one capsule, hold it up and all have a good laugh about it. Dealers are HORRIBLE. The professional ones are scary as business includes ensuring competition is 'disuaded' and bad debts end in examples being made, the rest get caught in the end but harm people needlessly because it's all about the power.

 

[lost weekend]

No, I've met and interacted with far more dealers than most and at best expect total disinterest but a professional manner. They have something to sell, you want to buy that thing. Business over, they just leave without a backward glance. Business is just business and they see dealing as just a step to get the money to do something (more) legal.

But I would say the MAJORITY like the power. In fact are themselves addicted to the power. I've watched a group of dodgy E dealers who one week couldn't get any E so they bought speed and microdots of LSD, crushed them together, put them into gelatin capsules and went off to sell their produce AS E.

But worse, 'as a laugh' they would crush 4-5 microdots and put them in one capsule, hold it up and all have a good laugh about it. Dealers are HORRIBLE. The professional ones are scary as business includes ensuring competition is 'disuaded' and bad debts end in examples being made, the rest get caught in the end but harm people needlessly because it's all about the power.

It's incredible how many people who get ,then immediately get rid of every day ,that's as far up the food chain I know about and care to know about ,in fact I don't actually know of anyone who fits that description who has gotten a telling off

 

[lost weekend]

No, I've met and interacted with far more dealers than most and at best expect total disinterest but a professional manner. They have something to sell, you want to buy that thing. Business over, they just leave without a backward glance. Business is just business and they see dealing as just a step to get the money to do something (more) legal.

But I would say the MAJORITY like the power. In fact are themselves addicted to the power. I've watched a group of dodgy E dealers who one week couldn't get any E so they bought speed and microdots of LSD, crushed them together, put them into gelatin capsules and went off to sell their produce AS E.

But worse, 'as a laugh' they would crush 4-5 microdots and put them in one capsule, hold it up and all have a good laugh about it. Dealers are HORRIBLE. The professional ones are scary as business includes ensuring competition is 'disuaded' and bad debts end in examples being made, the rest get caught in the end but harm people needlessly because it's all about the power.

It's incredible how many people who get ,then immediately get rid of every day ,that's as far up the food chain I know about and care to know about ,in fact I don't actually know of anyone who fits that description who has gotten a telling off

 

[4DQSAR]

Oh, they always get caught in the end. Retailing by definition is the most high-risk end of the business. The people who smuggle in tonnes of class A drugs often never even see the product. They silo others who only know the bit they need to know and let them take the risks.

But those large-scale importers are more able to accept 10% of their product being seized and even plan for it as a cost of doing business. Sometimes they even tip off the police so the police put all of their assets into stopping a smaller shipment while a much bigger shipment is unmolested. Sacrificial cargos are a known stratergy.

But look at the Encrochat disaster. Even city traders making millions and who could launder money at such scales were caught because they couldn't help themselves and posted photographs of the rare and expensive sports cars their crimes paid for.

All of those people needed external validation. That's what it all comes down to. The need for external validation.

Now who knows who produced and sold 'Explosion room odourizer' for years. It was vanilla extract and methylone AKA MDMC (which does smell nice) because as far as I know, nobody was ever charged for that one (or even identified) because while everyone knew there was MDMC in there, no list of ingredients was given so hard to find retailers guilty as you would need to prove mens rea. But whomever pulled of that one clearly needed no validation and even now nobody knows who was behind it.

Doing something ONCE in a way that makes framing a charge difficult and stopping the moment the loophole becomes common knowledge and walking away seems a successful stratergy (I can name a couple of others). But ONCE is the key.

Moderation isn't a behavior I've seen in dealers but hey, maybe I met people who I didn't know were dealers? Best way to keep a secret is not to tell anyone...

 

[lost weekend]

Oh, they always get caught in the end. Retailing by definition is the most high-risk end of the business. The people who smuggle in tonnes of class A drugs often never even see the product. They silo others who only know the bit they need to know and let them take the risks.

But those large-scale importers are more able to accept 10% of their product being seized and even plan for it as a cost of doing business. Sometimes they even tip off the police so the police put all of their assets into stopping a smaller shipment while a much bigger shipment is unmolested. Sacrificial cargos are a known stratergy.

But look at the Encrochat disaster. Even city traders making millions and who could launder money at such scales were caught because they couldn't help themselves and posted photographs of the rare and expensive sports cars their crimes paid for.

All of those people needed external validation. That's what it all comes down to. The need for external validation.

Now who knows who produced and sold 'Explosion room odourizer' for years. It was vanilla extract and methylone AKA MDMC (which does smell nice) because as far as I know, nobody was ever charged for that one (or even identified) because while everyone knew there was MDMC in there, no list of ingredients was given so hard to find retailers guilty as you would need to prove mens rea. But whomever pulled of that one clearly needed no validation and even now nobody knows who was behind it.

Doing something ONCE in a way that makes framing a charge difficult and stopping the moment the loophole becomes common knowledge and walking away seems a successful stratergy (I can name a couple of others). But ONCE is the key.

Moderation isn't a behavior I've seen in dealers but hey, maybe I met people who I didn't know were dealers? Best way to keep a secret is not to tell anyone...

Yes unfortunately, the people who drive around through the small hours deriving this and that ,usually without insurance get the full brunt of it
But they never ever tell on their friends?

 

[jessepinkman779]

Yes unfortunately, the people who drive around through the small hours deriving this and that ,usually without insurance get the full brunt of it
But they never ever tell on their friends?

Very true. They risk a minimum of 5 years in prison here in the UK and that's for being caught with a relatively small amount in separate bags, or a bigger amount with scales and bags. As said above the importers keep their hands clean.

There's been that many seizures in Europe recently that it's pushed prices up, not by much but they've gone up. I think the importers accept they're going to lose some shipments. 36 tonne in Europe not long ago. The guy I use only drives to me with what I've ordered, people collect the bigger orders from a Lockup. He's been at it for a very long time. To be honest, in my hometown I don't think the law care about coke dealers. They can't do because there's so many of them and it's blatant.

The Albanians have started operating in our area and some of my dealers customers are not happy to say the least. They've got too quality and deliver 24/7. It doesn't really impact my dealer, well not yet anyway.

I'm still using. I've stuck to half a gram per day apart from tonight, I've had half a baller. Well, I've still got some I haven't done it all yet. I'm in debt with my dealer, but he's suddenly stopped asking for favours. He said he knows I'm good for the money. But, he's definitely building up to something I know him well, not a chance he has me in debt and doesn't take advantage of the situation. We're talking a fair bit of debt at the moment. Normally it wouldn't be a problem but my family won't let me access my money. They will at some point if I explain the amount of debt, but they'll only allow that once. I've lost most my family because of this addiction. I've got my mom, brother, 1 uncle and 1 cousin. The rest of my family want nothing to do with me, which I completely understand. I just wonder where this is going to end for me. It's easy to just think I'll stop, but it's got me good at the moment.

I hope you are all doing well and life is treating you good.

 

[Passable_rock]

Very true. They risk a minimum of 5 years in prison here in the UK and that's for being caught with a relatively small amount in separate bags, or a bigger amount with scales and bags. As said above the importers keep their hands clean.

There's been that many seizures in Europe recently that it's pushed prices up, not by much but they've gone up. I think the importers accept they're going to lose some shipments. 36 tonne in Europe not long ago. The guy I use only drives to me with what I've ordered, people collect the bigger orders from a Lockup. He's been at it for a very long time. To be honest, in my hometown I don't think the law care about coke dealers. They can't do because there's so many of them and it's blatant.

The Albanians have started operating in our area and some of my dealers customers are not happy to say the least. They've got too quality and deliver 24/7. It doesn't really impact my dealer, well not yet anyway.

I'm still using. I've stuck to half a gram per day apart from tonight, I've had half a baller. Well, I've still got some I haven't done it all yet. I'm in debt with my dealer, but he's suddenly stopped asking for favours. He said he knows I'm good for the money. But, he's definitely building up to something I know him well, not a chance he has me in debt and doesn't take advantage of the situation. We're talking a fair bit of debt at the moment. Normally it wouldn't be a problem but my family won't let me access my money. They will at some point if I explain the amount of debt, but they'll only allow that once. I've lost most my family because of this addiction. I've got my mom, brother, 1 uncle and 1 cousin. The rest of my family want nothing to do with me, which I completely understand. I just wonder where this is going to end for me. It's easy to just think I'll stop, but it's got me good at the moment.

I hope you are all doing well and life is treating you good.

How much in debt are we talking? I'm personally doing well, and yes I feel like life has been treating me good lately. Don't how long this will last, but I will thank the universe for its grace in the mean time. Not to take any credit from me, because I am actually working hard on bettering myself, the process is just slow

 

[IronBaphomet]

New user here, lurked since the early 2010's or even before that maybe. Actually had an account but I think it got wiped away when the site got redone?

Anyways,

I've read this entire thread and I'm blown away that OP has done relatively not that much damage while consuming those insane amounts. When I was using it was like a 5th of this. Here's my experience with it.

I was personally hooked on the stuff for about a few years and got off of it recently. At the begining, I would buy 1-2 50$ bags and it would last me days. By the end of it, four times this amount wouldn't last me the night

My nose whistles strangely sometimes and it feels like the membrane between nostrils is thinner than before so I think i fucked it up a bit but not catastrophically so. I think I don't have a hole in the septum but I was always apprehensive of aggravating my nose condition when using.

One time though, I did 3 lines in a row because I wanted what was left of the drug to vanish (was way paranoid) and developed severe numbness in a fingertip that lasted for almost a month. I thought the sensation might never return. The full sensation eventually came back but it made me really question if my use was really worthwhile in any way.

Other than that, I've been having some digestive issues over the last year but I'm not sure they're related to the drug. I don't think it's good for your system to skip meals for like 24 hrs straight. I'll have to look into that. So far I'm unaware of anyone else having those symptoms. I don't know what else could be resposible for this in my lifestyle though, it's the one very harmful thing I was doing on the regular. I do use kratom also during certain periods so maybe that?

Finally I was able to get off it (the blow) because I think my guy felt like he was ruining me by providing the stuff. Very thankful he has some humanity in him and knew when things got too far. Everything in my life has improved since then and I don't have to worry about trouble with the law, debt or OD risk. I feel ashamed I cancelled some hang outs, family responsibilities and the like because I was solely centered on my self and personal pleasure.

I did use one time after this in a party setting but it wasn't my bag and just a few bumps with beers. I think it's the only way to keep this under control. Having any stash of my own and a new contact I am sure things would degenerate all over again.

OP you seem super intelligent and articulate, I hope you get out of this lifestyle or get a better hold on it. You deserve good things.

 

[Passable_rock]

New user here, lurked since the early 2010's or even before that maybe. Actually had an account but I think it got wiped away when the site got redone?

Anyways,

I've read this entire thread and I'm blown away that OP has done relatively not that much damage while consuming those insane amounts. When I was using it was like a 5th of this. Here's my experience with it.

I was personally hooked on the stuff for about a few years and got off of it recently. At the begining, I would buy 1-2 50$ bags and it would last me days. By the end of it, four times this amount wouldn't last me the night

My nose whistles strangely sometimes and it feels like the membrane between nostrils is thinner than before so I think i fucked it up a bit but not catastrophically so. I think I don't have a hole in the septum but I was always apprehensive of aggravating my nose condition when using.

One time though, I did 3 lines in a row because I wanted what was left of the drug to vanish (was way paranoid) and developed severe numbness in a fingertip that lasted for almost a month. I thought the sensation might never return. The full sensation eventually came back but it made me really question if my use was really worthwhile in any way.

Other than that, I've been having some digestive issues over the last year but I'm not sure they're related to the drug. I don't think it's good for your system to skip meals for like 24 hrs straight. I'll have to look into that. So far I'm unaware of anyone else having those symptoms. I don't know what else could be resposible for this in my lifestyle though, it's the one very harmful thing I was doing on the regular. I do use kratom also during certain periods so maybe that?

Finally I was able to get off it (the blow) because I think my guy felt like he was ruining me by providing the stuff. Very thankful he has some humanity in him and knew when things got too far. Everything in my life has improved since then and I don't have to worry about trouble with the law, debt or OD risk. I feel ashamed I cancelled some hang outs, family responsibilities and the like because I was solely centered on my self and personal pleasure.

I did use one time after this in a party setting but it wasn't my bag and just a few bumps with beers. I think it's the only way to keep this under control. Having any stash of my own and a new contact I am sure things would degenerate all over again.

OP you seem super intelligent and articulate, I hope you get out of this lifestyle or get a better hold on it. You deserve good things.

Congrats on quitting coke! It's no easy feat, you can be proud! You are right, it's not good to skip for for 24h ^^ I just can't do that, the drugs just doesn't feel good when you're starving and stomach hurt, feels like a void inside, and lack of energy. I used to do it too in the past, too high of a dose of stimulant, no food, no water, no sleep. But then I'd feel like utter shit for days after that. Now I'm 10 years older, but I'm taking much better care of my body when I do stimulants, and it feels so much better overall! Same for party/rave settings. Now I can party for longer, have a much easier crash, and have an even better time than when I was younger!

If you need a reason to have healthy habits and have trouble finding one, let it be just that. So the drugs feel better! You'll end up in better shape anyways

 

[IronBaphomet]

^ Thanks mate, appreciate it very much. Like I said, I was kinda obligated to quit it by the force of things, but I guess it's very good that I'm not actively seeking it asking my friends for contacts.

About the starvation and everything : yeah I feel you for sure. It's no way to live. I would usually spend all of the following days after use overeating to compensate and trying to rest all day (only to fall asleep at night, surely because of nasty cuts). I was using 2-3 times a week so half my week was days wasted in recovery mode.

Get in better shape to enjoy the drugs more hahaha. I like your way of thinking. Actually I'm doing this at the moment. I haven't trained this hard in about a decade. Feeling a huge improvement over my general wellbeing already!

 

[jessepinkman779]

How much in debt are we talking? I'm personally doing well, and yes I feel like life has been treating me good lately. Don't how long this will last, but I will thank the universe for its grace in the mean time. Not to take any credit from me, because I am actually working hard on bettering myself, the process is just slow

That's fantastic news. Well done, I'm really happy to hear things are so good for you.

We're talking a couple of thousand pounds maybe slightly over, but it's climbing.

 

[jessepinkman779]

New user here, lurked since the early 2010's or even before that maybe. Actually had an account but I think it got wiped away when the site got redone?

Anyways,

I've read this entire thread and I'm blown away that OP has done relatively not that much damage while consuming those insane amounts. When I was using it was like a 5th of this. Here's my experience with it.

I was personally hooked on the stuff for about a few years and got off of it recently. At the begining, I would buy 1-2 50$ bags and it would last me days. By the end of it, four times this amount wouldn't last me the night

My nose whistles strangely sometimes and it feels like the membrane between nostrils is thinner than before so I think i fucked it up a bit but not catastrophically so. I think I don't have a hole in the septum but I was always apprehensive of aggravating my nose condition when using.

One time though, I did 3 lines in a row because I wanted what was left of the drug to vanish (was way paranoid) and developed severe numbness in a fingertip that lasted for almost a month. I thought the sensation might never return. The full sensation eventually came back but it made me really question if my use was really worthwhile in any way.

Other than that, I've been having some digestive issues over the last year but I'm not sure they're related to the drug. I don't think it's good for your system to skip meals for like 24 hrs straight. I'll have to look into that. So far I'm unaware of anyone else having those symptoms. I don't know what else could be resposible for this in my lifestyle though, it's the one very harmful thing I was doing on the regular. I do use kratom also during certain periods so maybe that?

Finally I was able to get off it (the blow) because I think my guy felt like he was ruining me by providing the stuff. Very thankful he has some humanity in him and knew when things got too far. Everything in my life has improved since then and I don't have to worry about trouble with the law, debt or OD risk. I feel ashamed I cancelled some hang outs, family responsibilities and the like because I was solely centered on my self and personal pleasure.

I did use one time after this in a party setting but it wasn't my bag and just a few bumps with beers. I think it's the only way to keep this under control. Having any stash of my own and a new contact I am sure things would degenerate all over again.

OP you seem super intelligent and articulate, I hope you get out of this lifestyle or get a better hold on it. You deserve good things.

Congratulations on getting off the blow my friend. You must have worked extremely hard to get there.

 

[jessepinkman779]

I managed to collect a debt I've been owed by a friend yesterday (Friday) so I do now have cash to pay my own debt and tide me over. As soon as I collected the debt I ordered a baller, then another just in case I ran out, but I've still got a fair bit left.

 

[Passable_rock]

I managed to collect a debt I've been owed by a friend yesterday (Friday) so I do now have cash to pay my own debt and tide me over. As soon as I collected the debt I ordered a baller, then another just in case I ran out, but I've still got a fair bit left.

Neat! So did actually paid your debt?

 

[jessepinkman779]

Neat! So did actually paid your debt?

Yes, in full. My dealer didn't seem to like it.

 

[Passable_rock]

Yes, in full. My dealer didn't seem to like it.

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[nato23]

Currently on coke and im getting bored, anything fun to do while it lasts? I usually enjoy ketamine and weed alone but this is def a more social experience and I don’t have anyone to yap with. thanks!

Sniffing alone. Some people can’t fathom the idea of someone sniffing alone!! “It’s so weird sniffing coke alone”
“It’s so sad - why would you want to sniff alone”
But me - I don’t get chatty when I sniff - my chattiness stays pretty much the same.
And tbh I don’t mind sniffing alone, i can cope. In fact a fucking prefer it - I mean I don’t mind if people happen to join in. Most people don’t get it - but everyone is different i suppose!

Nitrous oxide!
What a high… while it lasts. I don’t do that balloon shit, I huff it straight from the canister to get a proper dose!!
I have three 700g canisters coming tomorrow.
I haven’t had in years tbh

 

[IronBaphomet]

Sniffing alone. Some people can’t fathom the idea of someone sniffing alone!! “It’s so weird sniffing coke alone”
“It’s so sad - why would you want to sniff alone”
But me - I don’t get chatty when I sniff - my chattiness stays pretty much the same.
And tbh I don’t mind sniffing alone, i can cope. In fact a fucking prefer it - I mean I don’t mind if people happen to join in. Most people don’t get it - but everyone is different i suppose!

Nitrous oxide!
What a high… while it lasts. I don’t do that balloon shit, I huff it straight from the canister to get a proper dose!!
I have three 700g canisters coming tomorrow.
I haven’t had in years tbh

I started to do blow in the usual social setting but eventually got tired of the drug fueled conversations that mean nothing and switched to do it alone. It can be embarassing to see your pals say things they don't really mean and be overly nice when you know their true nature isn't ike that.

I hear you about not wanting to talk after doing some.
I have a friend who goes 100% silent after doing it and it's probly better like that lol.

The shitty thing about doing it alone is that you will most likely augment your dosage and start to hide your druggy ways. At least with others you're sharing and using less and it's less likely to creep in your normal daily life.