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Does speed even get you high?

Not long acquired some speed/paste I don't usually take it but thought fuck it sick of the downers, well just for the night and took a bomb of 2g, waiting for it too hit don't take it a lot these days but why not a little buzz tonight. As been said speed to do the house work can be done but only at smaller doses ad say too. Only drug the missus touches is speed and its for the usual girl reasons house work is one I usually end up just taking apart shit lol as well all do never really fix things just make sure no one else will be able to ever fix them.

My mate is a speed freak, a big one at that been this way for last 15 year ad say. He used to have a smack habit and I could never work out why he admits he doesn't even like the downer feeling so why he had a habit for 10 year neither I or even he could work out why, used to take the kit when he got up to sort that problem out then it was right on to the speed, usually starts with a Q fucking bonkers if I done that I would end up being not well, that horrible shaken feeling, feel like your eyes balls are buzzing terrible when its gets that way. 7g to start with and tops that up when he feels like its needed maybe a part of slight greed on his part but that's what he needs, maybe that's what happens when you have been skuddin' speed nearly enough daily for 15 years part from when he's on holiday at her majestys pleasure.
 
This thread gets more ridiculous by the minute. Can I just remind people that this is a Harm Reduction forum and talking about taking 2g bombs - let alone 7g bombs - is incredibly misleading. You are taking glucose not aphetemines. Tolerance has nothing to do with it either. A 2g bomb of speed with any significant quantity of actual speed in it would result in hospitilastion at a bare minimum - most likely a coffin. And a 7g bomb would be lethal plain and simple tolerant or not.

We all know (although maybe not all it seems) that the quality and purity of speed in this country is an abomination and has been for a very, very long time now. As such, I know people do take 1g+ bombs as single doses because that is necessary when taking glucose that's been wafted close enough to some amphetamines to pick up the scent (but not close enough for the two to have been combined). However, good quality speed is becoming more widely available again and if any of y'all who truly believe those kinda doses are "normal" in any way, shape or form may one day acquire some actual speed and you will die.

Stop posting misinformation or at least acknowledge that these doses being mentoned only apply to godawful crap sold as "speed" (the fiver a gramme dross (I've even seen it go for a fiver an eighth or even less :\)) and definitely does not apply to actual speed which is dosed in double digit mg and will have you bouncing off the walls all night.
 
Shambles said:
This thread gets more ridiculous by the minute. Can I just remind people that this is a Harm Reduction forum and talking about taking 2g bombs - let alone 7g bombs - is incredibly misleading. You are taking glucose not aphetemines. Tolerance has nothing to do with it either. A 2g bomb of speed with any significant quantity of actual speed in it would result in hospitilastion at a bare minimum - most likely a coffin. And a 7g bomb would be lethal plain and simple tolerant or not.

We all know (although maybe not all it seems) that the quality and purity of speed in this country is an abomination and has been for a very, very long time now. As such, I know people do take 1g+ bombs as single doses because that is necessary when taking glucose that's been wafted close enough to some amphetamines to pick up the scent (but not close enough for the two to have been combined). However, good quality speed is becoming more widely available again and if any of y'all who truly believe those kinda doses are "normal" in any way, shape or form may one day acquire some actual speed and you will die.

Stop posting misinformation or at least acknowledge that these doses being mentoned only apply to godawful crap sold as "speed" (the fiver a gramme dross (I've even seen it go for a fiver an eighth or even less :\)) and definitely does not apply to actual speed which is dosed in double digit mg and will have you bouncing off the walls all night.
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Well said Shammy!
 
My tip on harm reduction would not to take any drugs in the first place, the harm would not only be reduced - it simply wouldn't be there. I never and would never tell anyone to take x amount of speed, or any drug for that matter. Seems like your trying to jump on me for talking about my experinces, I could see where you where coming from if I where doing different from others, but I am not or am I? If advice to anyone going to take speed regardless of the fact drugs are bad mmm'kay and didn't know the pontacy would be to start with half a g or under to see how things plan out.

The stuff is ok been better, been worse. That is what has been took, what he takes. I do know what you mean though. I don't know if what you say is what really would happen, I have seen loads, and I do really loads of people going of there rockers due to phet abuse over years, ending up in hosptial other than the mental health ones I have not, I do know that it happens though.
 
fightingthetoot said:
My tip on harm reduction would not to take any drugs in the first place, the harm would not only be reduced - it simply wouldn't be there. I never and would say tell anyone to take x amount of speed, or any drug for that matter..
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I would have stopped right there.
 
Harm Reduction is not the same thing as "Just Say No". Harm Reduction is what it says - reducing harm wherever possible. One example would be to not talk about such insanely high doses without putting it into context. Quality certainly does vary but it should always be made clear that actual amphetamine is dosed at around the 10-50mg mark. Realistically very few people will be getting such pure product so doses may be more realistic at around 100mg for high quality "street speed". Anything that requires multiple gramme dosing is not speed it is amphetamine-scented glucose.

As I said, good quality speed is becoming more widespread again so people who have only ever known the dire quality stuff you speak of (which is almost all that has been around for well over a decade generally speaking) will be in very, very serious trouble of the phsyically dangerous kind (heart attacks and the like) if they were to attempt multiple gramme doses as that would be many, many times a strong dose even at the lower end of the doses you are talking about.

Bear in mind that quality does vary and it needs to be made abundantly clear that the stuff you are referring to is at the lowest end of the quality spectrum. This is not a personal slight on your sources so much as simply a fact due to the doses required - it can be nothing other than horrendously poor quality and this is not the case for everybody and somebody taking speed for the first time should be well aware that they need to start at realistic doses for good quality product just in case they actually have good quality product.
 
Allein said:
I guess it depends on your definition of 'high', you know better than to believe your assessment of drugs whilst on drugs anyhow.

Although my guess is that is you managed to consume 2g of speed in that period you had shit speed
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+666
 
fightingthetoot said:
Yes you're correct regarding what you say.
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I'm really not trying to be snotty about it - believe me I'm terrible for bitching about how appalling the quality of speed is in the UK and have been picked up on it several times myself cos my experience is not that of everybody and people searching for information about speed here are probably not very familiar with the stuff at all or they'd likely not need to be looking up "normal" doses. As such, they would be at greater risk of simply reading a couple of posts out of context and assuming such doses mentioned by some are standard. Whilst that may be the case in many situations it's also possible the picked up some of the so-called "Polish speed" or found one of the actually good "naughty web" sources and got some high quality stuff shipped over from Holland or the like and they would be at real risk of a major OD if they weren't aware of what a "proper" dose should actually be.

Here's hoping the good quality stuff makes a proper comeback cos lawdy do I loves me speed... when it has speed in it anyway :!
 
I had a little dab of some dutch speed a couple of weeks ago and believe me I was fucked. a gram at once would of certainly put me in a&e. comedown was pretty harsh tho
 
was the third drug i ttried after acid and ganja - paid £10 for 500mg of 'rotterdam blue' (this was around the height of the dutch gaba scene) before going to pandemonium, a local rave - and while it couldnt have been that potent by weight it was superb qualiity and one of the best drug experiences ive ever had

the rest of the 90's involved mainly the pissy smelly 'base' paste - it was more expensive than the more standard powders being sold but a fleck under your finngernail would have you smashed for hours - one one occasion i got 3 raves from one gram - and as the empty bag was still a bit icky and sticky i took it to majorca and got a full nights buzz out of licking a piece of plastic

from 96 onwards tho i was more of a pill man, only resorting to bumps of whizz once id hit the mdma 'ceiling effect'

i didnt really get back into it untill 2007 after id got off the gear (the first time around) by then it was always that wet stuff everyones on about, but some of it was half decent - i was going out with a nymphomaniac at the time and as ive never been parrticularly good in the bedroom department, the stuff was brilliant for helping me to keep up in the nastiest, longest shagging sessions ive ever been exposed to

its never been my favourite drug, but its right up there - nothing beats a beer garden during a heatwave with good company and good speed to keep you on tip top form untill the sun sets...
 
steewith2ees said:
its never been my favourite drug, but its right up there - nothing beats a beer garden during a heatwave with good company and good speed to keep you on tip top form untill the sun sets...
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Beauty of a combo!

& yeah amazing for a long shagging sesh, especially combined with g. Speed has become one of my faves, love it
 
speed + alcohol is my favourite combo just lately. as long as I don't dose the speed too high it can be perfect and very euphoric :)
 
I would be careful regarding dosing massive bombs as rest assured if you do get some proper base phet then those amounts will give you are a heart attack. I think the RC market is partially to blame for shit drugs these days. 50mg of decent stuff will keep you up for a good couple of days, bar the non active cuts I dread to think what the active substances are....
 
In the interests of harm reduction I put together a poem to remind us all:

When you have a 2g bomb
Do not take it all at one

So if the coke and speed are fucking useless and are simply glucose wafted over some BZP, what about methamphetamine for the housework?
 
Or in haiku.

TWO G OF WHIZ DOWN
WHO WANTS TO SNIFF A LINE OF
THORAZINE OFF MY SHAFT
 
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