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^Yeh, I do believe that addiction to stimulants can result in a 'perma-tolerance', and in some cases this can even lead to paradoxical effects such as feeling very tired after a line.
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Does speed even get you high?
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2g bomb of speed! ? that would give a coronary to say the least.
Whizz tends to be the gluked up amphetamine scented non-speed that sells really cheaply.
As for base, the smelly white stronger stuff, for a newbie, a match head size bit will be plenty more than enough, mebbe half that. However as metioned above, anything tends to pass for base nowadays.
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I don't think the stuff I had was actually 75% purity, as there is no way I could have that much.
Maybe it was cut, maybe the cut version was 75% purity, rather than 75% pure speed, because, why I would I still be alive writing this, if I had of bombed speed of 75% purity.
The half decent stuff always had a really strong white chalkyness to it to me.
It smelt as bad as those really chalky white horrible things that fall from our tonsils sometimes, only those little death-stench-tonsil-monsters never got me high hahahha
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^^ There was no doubt variation across the land as with all such matters. I suppose I feel a certain specific tie to this particular matter cos I was very much a part of that "very, very niche" market and know for a fact that anybody who bought speed of any form throughout the midlands and surrounding areas in the early-mid 90s was buying it from myself, close friends of mine or - as we were - direct from the chemist himself who was selling pure amphetamine base oil to certain customers. Said certain customers initially kept it for themselves but it was too damn good to stay that way for long and as the supply increased with demand "we" found ways to make it more viable as a consumer product and thus a legend was born and a shitey aftermath ensued when people realised you could sell any ol' shit as long as it was wet and stinked bad enough![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
To me, the weaker crap stuff looked like a mix of icing sugar and water, but the stronger stuff that you only needed a dab of, was off white and had a really chalky look and texture to it, with a solvety smell, some of it was oily sometimes. This is the stuff that was rarer, post '90's
What was the chalky white substance?
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F.U.B.A.R.
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Whizz/speed/billy are all names for the same thing. No one term is any indication of quality.
Shambles
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Probably chalk. Who knows? Could be anything. I dread to think what people may choose to use to cut speed with other than the standard glucose. I suspect some people will be adding anything that tastes and/or smells very strongly unpleasant. Anything astes and/or smells very strongly unpleasant other than actual amphetamine anyway.
I also wouldn't trust any "xx% laboratory tested" claims as it costs money to get things properly tested and which drug dealer is gonna send his product off to be tested at his own expense when he can just make shit up for free?
I almost always snort it, I occasionally smoke it but I fail to see what the fuss is all about and orally doesnt provide the kick but I guess would be more functional. I often gel cap sulphate for a descret top up.
The advantages in snorting meth over sulphate are clearly quantity, I can only snort the one side and if I go at it to hard my sinuses block up.
The advantages in snorting meth over sulphate are clearly quantity, I can only snort the one side and if I go at it to hard my sinuses block up.
F.U.B.A.R.
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@Allein: jealous as fuck...
I'm glad I wasn't having large quantities of 75% stuff, I don't feel such a greedy pig now
What does proper stuff look and smell like?
I remember having this stuff that was a yellowy colour and looked a bit waxy, but it didn't have that horrible smelly stuff that makes me gag.
It had no comedown, it was the only stuff that did not give me a comedown.
I wasn't manic on it, but I was very energetic, bouncy and able to dance, but not in a manic way.
It was not sold, I got a tiny bit given to me and it was the probably the best 'speed' I had.
This is what it looked like http://medications.li/static/d65c28446501ccb36a95afba2bc1c8fc.jpg
I would love to know exactly what pure amphetamine looks like, I don't mean meth i mean the stuff you talked about.
thanks
Hopefully explore the meth shortly - hoping it's been wafted over some insane worming powder...and daz.
Pretty disappointed with stims so far, cocaine gave me a sore knob and the worst upper respiratory tract infection of my life, still fighting that bastard with antibiotics. Speed just gave me a sore knob.
If I'm settling down for a wank 30 minutes after taking "meth" my exploration of stims will come to rapid end.
Pretty disappointed with stims so far, cocaine gave me a sore knob and the worst upper respiratory tract infection of my life, still fighting that bastard with antibiotics. Speed just gave me a sore knob.
If I'm settling down for a wank 30 minutes after taking "meth" my exploration of stims will come to rapid end.
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lol
Each to there won and all that, Ive long since liked speed, by far my most enduring habit, although there is some element of self medications which is very much an admition rather than an excise. I've never gotten into a bad way on the stuff, 3-4 days in and sketchiness and paranoia are just at the periphery. I might pull the odd all nighter but in the main I s least lie down and rest for a few hours.
Recommending Meth would be a little outside of my BL remit and I'm no big user, I find it a better hit, cleaner and last longer with less desire to redose, depends what you pay but it doesnt work out much more than good sulphate in terms of how long it lasts me.
That said I've always had a capacity for stimulants, I only judge this from times when others have had the same drugs and I'd say that over the years that must have got higher or Im just so used to the effects. I've had sulphate that compares to meth but isnt as clean to take and at least for the first few hits meth wins hands down.. It must be more difficult to cut, mostof what I;ve had kooks like all the same cystat, and given the potency if it is its nit by a lot, that recent blue stuff was outstading, I was doing aboit half a normal hit down and ir was still messing up my vision , An inexperienced user could end up in hospital but the vendir did did wanr me wice
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Im the same with stims, sounds like me and you are wired right for the them
Tbh the only stim that ive done which fucks me over is meph. fucks me over worse than most things. as for sulphate which compares to meth, same here had a couple batches also which were excellent, would love to be able to get them again
Tbh the only stim that ive done which fucks me over is meph. fucks me over worse than most things. as for sulphate which compares to meth, same here had a couple batches also which were excellent, would love to be able to get them again
I got quite into Meph when it was legal, it got me off coke at least but the amounts I started taking got silly, I'm not going to dick size about it many of us here did the same, when some like that can be brought without hassles for £3-4 a G there is an inevitable result for me.
I'm not sure how much it was fukin me over, I started getting into MDPV so would binge of Meph and then switch to MDPV for days after and I wasnt ina good state of mind generally.
Like a few substances I've abused it started making me puke on the come down, then it became illegal and I started getting other health problems so never bothered with post ban. I've done it a couple of times since and it was OK but made me puke, not worth it.
I'll never forget getting that first G, cracking it open on a Wednesday night thinking it wouldnt do a great deal what with me being so hardcore and all that
I railed a line which with Meph is an experience in itself, 2-3 minutes later it hit me like a fukin steam train, I stayed up all night and was railing the rest at work the following day !
I got a bigger quantity for the next weekend as me and Mrs A were going out, she knew it was pretty active by the state of me the week before but even for her I don't tend to look that fucked even when I am. I racked her up a line....I did fail to mention anything about this unique experience.....ohhh how I laughed .
That blue meth I had was the best I've had so far although I'm no experienced user of it, after an initial tiny dose I do eyeball meth but I dont go for big doses anyway but I'd say less than 20mg of that stuff snorted was something else, I didnt redose for 6-7 hours and then only because I'm a greedy drug pig.
I find shit sulphate really disappointing, I guess if your just going to eat it it might be OK but I'm not a big fan of doing that although I have to say from what I see the quality is on the rise, I guess as more people get hold of decent product they no longer want Glucose power mixed with water with a dash of poorly produced sulphate. I genuinely believe the stronger and cleaner product is safer, you can dose more carefully and there is some consistency starting to take shape, mainly due to the DN IMHO
I'm not sure how much it was fukin me over, I started getting into MDPV so would binge of Meph and then switch to MDPV for days after and I wasnt ina good state of mind generally.
Like a few substances I've abused it started making me puke on the come down, then it became illegal and I started getting other health problems so never bothered with post ban. I've done it a couple of times since and it was OK but made me puke, not worth it.
I'll never forget getting that first G, cracking it open on a Wednesday night thinking it wouldnt do a great deal what with me being so hardcore and all that
I railed a line which with Meph is an experience in itself, 2-3 minutes later it hit me like a fukin steam train, I stayed up all night and was railing the rest at work the following day !I got a bigger quantity for the next weekend as me and Mrs A were going out, she knew it was pretty active by the state of me the week before but even for her I don't tend to look that fucked even when I am. I racked her up a line....I did fail to mention anything about this unique experience.....ohhh how I laughed .
That blue meth I had was the best I've had so far although I'm no experienced user of it, after an initial tiny dose I do eyeball meth but I dont go for big doses anyway but I'd say less than 20mg of that stuff snorted was something else, I didnt redose for 6-7 hours and then only because I'm a greedy drug pig.
I find shit sulphate really disappointing, I guess if your just going to eat it it might be OK but I'm not a big fan of doing that although I have to say from what I see the quality is on the rise, I guess as more people get hold of decent product they no longer want Glucose power mixed with water with a dash of poorly produced sulphate. I genuinely believe the stronger and cleaner product is safer, you can dose more carefully and there is some consistency starting to take shape, mainly due to the DN IMHO
Years ago, when I used to stay up more than one night on amphetamines (UK base not meth) on the comedown my ankles and feet used to swell up so badly that I had to wear loose fitting shoes.
My feet and ankles looked like they had been inflated. As so much fluid had travelled down to my feet and ankles, movement of the ankle was so sore that I found it difficult to walk and had to end up sitting with my feet elevated to finish the comedown.
I remember once it happened, and I had got psychotic, so I was admtitted to the psychiatric ward with these big fat swollen feet and ankles and I had a nice nurse allocated to me, I told him that the swelling was the norm for me if I stayed up too long on speed. The nurse said it was the speed affecting my heart.
As I was already suffering from paranoia, I decided not to believe this, and to believe that the nurse was just looking out for my best interests, and said that as a deterrent to help me not use it again.
I'm sure this fluid retention and swollen feet/ankles must be a common problem amongst speed fans.
Who else on here gets swollen ankles and feet from speed?
Does anyone know what causes it?
I know it is oedema, but what causes it and why do some people get it (I don't know anyone else who does) and other people escape it?
Thanks
My feet and ankles looked like they had been inflated. As so much fluid had travelled down to my feet and ankles, movement of the ankle was so sore that I found it difficult to walk and had to end up sitting with my feet elevated to finish the comedown.
I remember once it happened, and I had got psychotic, so I was admtitted to the psychiatric ward with these big fat swollen feet and ankles and I had a nice nurse allocated to me, I told him that the swelling was the norm for me if I stayed up too long on speed. The nurse said it was the speed affecting my heart.
As I was already suffering from paranoia, I decided not to believe this, and to believe that the nurse was just looking out for my best interests, and said that as a deterrent to help me not use it again.
I'm sure this fluid retention and swollen feet/ankles must be a common problem amongst speed fans.
Who else on here gets swollen ankles and feet from speed?
Does anyone know what causes it?
I know it is oedema, but what causes it and why do some people get it (I don't know anyone else who does) and other people escape it?
Thanks
BigG
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