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Do some people not feel "loved up"?

Aphex747 said:
Theres nothing wrong with being different, until it is disturbing to other people. Then theres something called commom courtesy, and repsect. I would love to be nude at Raves, I feel free that way. But I do not, because of laws, and because also, Id feel bad if I offended someone or took away from their experience, because i want to be so "Different and accepted no matter what". And besides, theres nothing different at all about sucking on a beanky. Its an old fad that alot of in the rave scene wish would just go away, trust me. Your being laughed at from those of us in the crowd, even tho were not going to be rude about it. Maybe ill bring a blow up doll top the next rave. Oh wait a minute, no I wouldn't because I have common sense and respect for people around me. Which is something those selfish "kandi kids" could learn a thing or two about.
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How can being nude (in the possible presence of those who are possibly considered underage) and bringing a blow up doll to a rave in the same category as someone sucking on a binky? What are you going to do with said doll? Fuck it in front of everyone? I'm more concerned about you than I am about the person with the binky. Legal issues (can) prevent you from doing either of those activities.

If you don't want to look at someone sucking on a binky then look away. If you don't like the way someone dresses, then don't look at them. Snickering off in the corner makes gives me the impression that you are very immature. How "should" people look and behave on E around you? You seem to have a lot of preconceived notions on what people should and shouldn't do.

And if everyone "went with the flow" a lot of incredible histortic feats (and I'm talking about global history here) would never have existed. Change happens because of having different logic or a different way of viewing things. The world would be a pretty boring place if everyone looked, spoke, and thought the same.

Your oppressive logic is disturbing to me.
 
Yea i hear you guys, i had to bring it up tho. There are alot of funny people at raves, not just kandi kids, but guys get all frosted up and wear makeup and jewlery. Like the guy from the cure! You guys are right on one thing, I will be laughing, and I will be taking pictures. Hey, maybe I could get a group of Kandi kidz to pose in a picture with me...nude!
 
And purplefly, I'm sorry but you took me way too seriosuly saying kids wearing binkies and looking like babies is ridiculous. Im actually looking forwards to lmao and taking pics of it all. Its why i love the fest. So just chill bro. And everyone else, I hope to see you at the fest. Bring your Kandi, and I'll bring my Kamera!!! : ) PLUR everyone!! : )
 
rincewindrocks said:
I never get "loved up" I may get chatty, but thats about it. Even with quality Molly. I certainly dont start going and hugging people, that always seemed weird to me. I also hate getting light shows, dancing, or....well, just about anything you're "supposed" to like. Thats probably why I dont do it that often.
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Same here.
 
rincewindrocks said:
I never get "loved up" I may get chatty, but thats about it. Even with quality Molly. I certainly dont start going and hugging people, that always seemed weird to me. I also hate getting light shows, dancing, or....well, just about anything you're "supposed" to like. Thats probably why I dont do it that often.
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I agree. I just get really into the music, i will be in an uplfited mood for sure. But im not into all the light shows in your face or anything either. It is just weird but you have to act like its cool so its not suddenly awkward for the person doing it. My friends know me and I know them, and we just like feeling the music and dancing maybe with glow sticks, but thats about it. Iv'e never had the urges to hug people even when i first took a really good atari in 2000.

At most I will say these are AWESOME MAN, maybe give a high five to a buddy or something but yeah even the most euphoric pills never make me get "touchy feely. Maybe it's like alchohol, and people just blame the mdma for their behavior. I personally have never seen the attraction to cuddle puddles. And I dont see how someone who isn't already into that sort of thing (or at least interested) could just develop a new feeling for it.
 
I'm with ya on the Non-judgement and acceptance. A lot of times when I roll I just see people as their face portrays them and not by what they are wearing. If you look like your having fun from the neck up clothes aren't too important any more in my opinion.
 
Personally, I'm an "I love everyone" kind of person already, mdma just helps me show it better. Takes away my "I'm too shy to tell you how awesome I think you are" barrier. When I'm rolling, I get super excited for 4 hours, because I can actually comfortably talk and bond with everyone I meet lol.

So I really think it depends on the person. In my opinion, it's only a "love drug" if you already have that love for people somewhere inside of you. It doesn't create love, it just allows you to express it. ... Can't express something if you don't already feel it or have it.

Oh and about the binky thing, remember, people aren't doing it just to look different or to look like a kandi kid. Binkies legitimately help me a ton when I roll. I chew on that thing so hard, always do. Protects my teeth alot. And yeah, there's gum too of course, I use both, at the same time lol. Do I think I look cool cause I'm chewing on a binky? No. I understand I look ridiculous. I just don't care if i look weird, especially when i'm rolling.
 
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I used to get it when I was first starting out, then did it to often so I stopped for a year, and even after a year I still dont get that loving feeling anymore.. it sucks
 
marq said:
Personally, I'm an "I love everyone" kind of person already, mdma just helps me show it better. Takes away my "I'm too shy to tell you how awesome I think you are" barrier. When I'm rolling, I get super excited for 4 hours, because I can actually comfortably talk and bond with everyone I meet lol.

So I really think it depends on the person. In my opinion, it's only a "love drug" if you already have that love for people somewhere inside of you. It doesn't create love, it just allows you to express it. ... Can't express something if you don't already feel it or have it.

Oh and about the binky thing, remember, people aren't doing it just to look different or to look like a kandi kid. Binkies legitimately help me a ton when I roll. I chew on that thing so hard, always do. Protects my teeth alot. And yeah, there's gum too of course, I use both, at the same time lol. Do I think I look cool cause I'm chewing on a binky? No. I understand I look ridiculous. I just don't care if i look weird, especially when i'm rolling.
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I disagree. MDMA creates the delusion that you love everyone and that everyone loves you. For this reason, you feel comfortable expressing your feelings to someone else (who happens to be on MDMA) that reciprocates the same feelings of love. It's a beautiful thing, and I wish people treated each other like that all the time. I think people just experience MDMA differently and some people get really loved up and others don't. Some people love shrooms and LSD and some don't.

A perfect example of this is straight people making out with everyone at a rave on MDMA. He or she is probably completely straight, but MDMA made him or her feel the need to do that. He or she felt it was appropriate.

On that note, I love everyone on and off MDMA =) So I know everything I say on MDMA I mean. I'm just not so sure that's true for everyone.

...and binkies are completely useless for bruxism. I have nothing against them (I even think it looks cute), but there are MANY better alternatives. Mouth guards are the first that come to mind and work extremely effectively.
 
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