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Do men really believe that women are their equal?

K12 said:
You have to understand, I'm not offended by you. It truly takes a long time to unbrainwash yourself and see the truth. This is not a joke. This is very serious. I do not think there is anything funny about mass-brainwashing of the public to promote equality.

However, on a more humorous side,

You say "But it seems to me that K12 is talking about the inability of women to cope with stress and what not. Which ofcourse is complete gibberish. There is no proof to support this theory"

Uh, get off Mars and Venus and come to the real world bro, just for a few seconds. Not some idealistic fanatasy that is imposed on you. That's where I'm coming from. Biology is not something I made up. It is actually a real science. Ok, proof. Uh, what could I possibly come up with to support somthing that is complete gibberish? This is gonna be hard... um... um... Wait! Wait! I think I got it! You really don't think, for example, women PMS'ing have a reduced threshold for emotional turmoil when compared to men? Uh, um, ok. I see your point, lol. About a week out of the month women are going through this biological dilema. Tread cautiously, for those that don't know. So, once again, K12 would argue the obvious -- As a general rule, women have a lower threshold for emotional turmoil than men. -
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Perhaps we should start at the beginning? What is the definition of emotional turmoil for you? What does a reduced threshold entail?
 
^ good luck. i've asked him 3 times how you even begin to measure something like that and he can't or won't answer. i draw the obvious conclusion :\

alasdair
 
I believe women are my equal but there are various levels here. I will treat a woman more kindly than I would a guy.

For example: You can't jokingly insult a girl because she will take offense to it. But at the same time if you held a door open for a guy they would call you a gay moron.

So IMO, women are not inferior but they must be treated differently to complete the balance.
 
There are some characteristics and personality traits associated with femininity and masculinity. These are strongly influenced by both biology and environment. Some men have more feminine qualities and some women have more masculine ones.

The observable behaviors and ethics derived from these traits may lead each gender to respond differently to emotional stress. But to say that a man will resolve the situation better than a woman is biased.

Equality is the assumption that both genders have the same level of intelligence and amount of cognitive skills...despite personality handicaps.
 
im pretty sure a woman could kick the shit out of me. im pretty sure a woman could make me cry. im pretty sure a woman could make a guy do what ver she wanted. i think women are in alot of ways superior to men. jsut as much as we are superior to them. jsut being different from one another. thats all ive got to say about it anyways.
 
i'm open to the idea that in certain areas women are less capable than men (and in certain areas, vice versa) *on average*

it'd be silly to say it's a 50 50 split on everything

but seriously... there is a lot more individual difference than between-sex difference. it can be useful to think about these generalizations, but to say one sex is better is absurd

if you want to compare humans, compare individual to individual (even among same sex and you'll see as much difference)

honestly, when i look at humans, i don't see boys acting much different if they had grown up as a girl, and vice versa. ESPECIALLY if sociology/nurture is taken into account

i do see differences on average. guys more often seem to drop out of mainstream. guys more often act on aggression and express it outward rather than inward. girls fucking love shoes for some reason, either they got suckered in by corporations or some lucky company stumbled across this fact and made billions. lol

but when analyzing human behavior, while these differences can be noticed as generalizations, they don't make sense on an individual level, and they aren't really useful usually
 
the black sun said:
im pretty sure a woman could kick the shit out of me. im pretty sure a woman could make me cry. im pretty sure a woman could make a guy do what ver she wanted. i think women are in alot of ways superior to men. jsut as much as we are superior to them. jsut being different from one another. thats all ive got to say about it anyways.
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this is part of the sociological side i posted about. women have been suppressed in a great many ways for a very long time. the only way they were able to feel/exercise power was socially. they usually couldn't get legal titles etc

i believe that, if we are to look at females as a general "culture" (which is a working perspective imo, for either gender), they've adapted to this suppression. i believe this could be why they sometimes seem so...manipulative :)

guys do the exact same shit, they need to see the exact same negative emotions in others to get off (not all guys..., not all girls...) it's just less subtle

these cultural differences we are speaking of... nearly all of the generalizations we notice in this thread... in humanity's timespan, they are very fleeting, and are more cultural than physiological
 
no one is equal to anyone 100% we all have some variant traits from each each other, thus not equal in a technical sense. So I say no. but men are not equal to all men, nor are women are equal to all women.
 
qwe said:
girls fucking love shoes
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<3 <3SHOES!!!<3 <3 (one need only say the word and i get wet-my-pants excited)

i've always subscribed to the "different but equal" idea. traditionally speaking, i think men and women tend to make up for what the other sex lacks.
 
rangrz said:
no one is equal to anyone 100% we all have some variant traits from each each other, thus not equal in a technical sense. So I say no. but men are not equal to all men, nor are women are equal to all women.
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You are most certainly right on there. I think it has less to do with what sex you are then how you where brought up and how you turned out when you got older. In that sense noone is equal to anyone else.
 
qwe said:
this is part of the sociological side i posted about. women have been suppressed in a great many ways for a very long time. the only way they were able to feel/exercise power was socially. they usually couldn't get legal titles etc

i believe that, if we are to look at females as a general "culture" (which is a working perspective imo, for either gender), they've adapted to this suppression. i believe this could be why they sometimes seem so...manipulative :)

guys do the exact same shit, they need to see the exact same negative emotions in others to get off (not all guys..., not all girls...) it's just less subtle

these cultural differences we are speaking of... nearly all of the generalizations we notice in this thread... in humanity's timespan, they are very fleeting, and are more cultural than physiological
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yer pretty much about the way women have been treated in the past to make us still think the same shit now. jsut because society told us women were/are/what ever!!!! different in lesser ways doesnt meen it's true really. it's weird subject. it can easily be turned around in so many different directions.
 
I find that men seem more emotionally resilient than women and don't annoyingly cry at the drop of a hat, but then again apparently bottling it up can be an issue in some people (although I've not personally found it to be in people I know). Physically men seem more willing in general to put more effort in physically (obviously there are exceptions to the rule). Women seem more comfortable showing affection and are more secure in their sexuality.
 
This is something I think about a lot, and as for the question 'do men really believe that women are their equal?', I'd have to say that in my experience, the answer is often no. It's definitely become a lot more subtle, and most guys do treat women well, and superficially think they're equal. But deep down, I think there is still a deep seated belief amongst a lot of guys that they are better than girls. Groups of guys talking about women can be incredibly degrading, especially when it comes to sex. Now is this just harmless banter between friends, or does it reveal something more? When guys regard a woman as just another conquest, and manipulate her for that purpose, is that because he actually thinks she's not as deserving of respect, or is it just because he's trying to serve his own selfish purposes? These are things I'm not sure about.

I do know, that being female is something I've almost felt guilty of at times. It makes me angry that I could be seen as 'just a girl' that some guy uses for his purposes, or that anyone would talk about me that way. I think the duality between the male stud and the female slut is where that undercurrent of believing females are inferior is most apparent.
 
Men are not women and women are not men, but neither are men men and neither are women women.

We are all just people.

Your biological make up says nothing about your gender IMO.

The age we are in can throw these days gone by ideologies out the window.

........ Fight the power.

K, bye.
 
I mean no disrespect, but ironically I think it's you that has the problem with men. None if my male friends have anything against women deep down inside. I think your perception of men is distorted and not representative of reality.

footscrazy said:
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is something I think about a lot, and as for the question 'do men really believe that women are their equal?', I'd have to say that in my experience, the answer is often no. It's definitely become a lot more subtle, and most guys do treat women well, and superficially think they're equal. But deep down, I think there is still a deep seated belief amongst a lot of guys that they are better than girls. Groups of guys talking about women can be incredibly degrading, especially when it comes to sex. Now is this just harmless banter between friends, or does it reveal something more? When guys regard a woman as just another conquest, and manipulate her for that purpose, is that because he actually thinks she's not as deserving of respect, or is it just because he's trying to serve his own selfish purposes? These are things I'm not sure about.

I do know, that being female is something I've almost felt guilty of at times. It makes me angry that I could be seen as 'just a girl' that some guy uses for his purposes, or that anyone would talk about me that way. I think the duality between the male stud and the female slut is where that undercurrent of believing females are inferior is most apparent.
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Artificial Emotion said:
I mean no disrespect, but ironically I think it's you that has the problem with men. None if my male friends have anything against women deep down inside. I think your perception of men is distorted and not representative of reality.
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I don't think footcrazy is acting crazy. Whenever I'm out with a group of guys I hear the same stories -- groups of guys hangin out talkin all kinds of trash about women. I think it is male bonding. Women do the same thing when in groups.

PS -- Yo ladies, why do you always walk together in a stampede to go to the bathroom? Maybe I could let my bros know this secret next time I'm chillin in a group with them, lol.
 
footscrazy said:
This is something I think about a lot, and as for the question 'do men really believe that women are their equal?', I'd have to say that in my experience, the answer is often no. It's definitely become a lot more subtle, and most guys do treat women well, and superficially think they're equal. But deep down, I think there is still a deep seated belief amongst a lot of guys that they are better than girls. Groups of guys talking about women can be incredibly degrading, especially when it comes to sex. Now is this just harmless banter between friends, or does it reveal something more? When guys regard a woman as just another conquest, and manipulate her for that purpose, is that because he actually thinks she's not as deserving of respect, or is it just because he's trying to serve his own selfish purposes? These are things I'm not sure about.

I do know, that being female is something I've almost felt guilty of at times. It makes me angry that I could be seen as 'just a girl' that some guy uses for his purposes, or that anyone would talk about me that way. I think the duality between the male stud and the female slut is where that undercurrent of believing females are inferior is most apparent.
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Hmm maybe it was just the way i was brought up that made me form my ideas about people being equal. Sure some woman fit that emotional sterotype of crying at the drop of a hat but most in my experience don't. In fact i know more then a few that bottle up their emotions more then any guy ive met does. I don't fit the sterotype of a typical guy bottling up their emotions since i am more then willing to talk to the few real friends i have about whats going on in my fucked up head. Perhaps this is a result of having more women friends then guy friends growing up or maybe it's just my personality.

I have made more then a few jokes at womens expense in my time but i never meant any harm by them. I was reminded not to make such jokes one time when i made a fairly innocent joke to my g/f and got kicked so hard in the head i got knocked outta bed. She was not one to mess with 8o

Basically i think we are all equal and not equal at the same time. It has fuck all to do with what gender you are and more to do with your personality atleast in my opinion.

The OP seems like a fucking teenager though and a rather naive one at that.
 
Havn't read the thread, only title..

But yes.. i 100% believe women are equal to men.. in that no1 deserves different treatment than anyone else just because of their gender..

Of course, that does not mean men and women are the same..
 
footscrazy said:
Groups of guys talking about women can be incredibly degrading, especially when it comes to sex. Now is this just harmless banter between friends, or does it reveal something more?
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i have a lot of very close female friends, and have NEVER heard guys verbally attack anyone the way that they can.
 
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My experience is sort of similar double ewe. Not saying this is how it is EVERYWHERE, but there seems to be anecdotal evidence that it may be.
 
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