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Tryptamines [DMT Subthread] Plugging (Rectal)

i have not tried it. i based my post on a post i read by Entropymancer where he quotes 69ron from DMT nexus

DMT fumarate is best for snorting, taking sublingually, injecting, taking intra-rectally, or taking orally with an MAOI. If a person wants to smoke DMT, they need freebase DMT. SWIM thinks smoking it is a waste. The trip is too short. SWIM prefers the other routes of administration because the trip is much longer lasting.
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i will give it shot some day i suppose, but there are a few psychs on my list to do before i get to it.
 
Dont plug dmt freebase with butter

300mg rectal administration= no effects except bloody discharge. Swim used the freebase in melted butter, and will never try it again. The bleading wont stop! Gonna try hemeroid cream and pray...:(
 
I've done rectal admin of DMT before and it worked. I dissolved in a distilled white vinegar diluted by half with water (50:50 5%whitevingar:water).
 
There was a girl on youtube who said she plugged something in the ballpark of 300mg of DMT disolved in oil....
 
^That would be the aforementioned Shamanic Colonic girl. Or do you really mean oil instead of butter?
 
^^^^there must be literally thousands of women on youtube who talk about sticking dmt mixed with butter up thier ass.

so how are we to know who you are talking about unless you specify a username?
 
For salt formation, I always go with making the acetate salt for making up sterile solns for IM administration. Making a salt of a weakish acid is probably best for penetrating membranes as it is only partially dissociated effectively giving some freebase DMT in soln (equilibrium between the salt and the unionized compounds), which will cross a lipophillic membrane far easier.

Besides acetic acid (clear vinegar is about 1 percent acetic acid) is a lot less painful to squirt up the arse, if you get the salt formation a bit wrong, than hydrochloric acid!


might have been butter....

Could it have been 'I Can't Believe It's Not Butter'? =D =D
 
I think the running theory is that there is MAO in the gut and that it can be "overwhelmed" with enough NN DMT.....some speculate the same is true with oral dosage, albeit an even higher amount is required. The neurosoup girl used 600 mg of the freebase, dissolved in melted butter (so as it aint soluble in water and no one wants non polar solvents up the ass (even butter might be a stretch for some ;) ) and had a hell of a trip. Long ago it was postulated that a similiar mechanism may be at work with mescaline, ie enzymatic or whatever activity in the body that because of the 2 carbon 3,4,5 pattern we encounter in nature our body has a limited ability to break this down, but once we get over around 200 mg of mescaline we are "overwhelmed" and the drug becomes active, which does correspond to the relatively steep does response curve above this amount. *warning* while this "speculation" wasnt conceived over bong hits it may well have been, i remember this idea being tossed around years ago but i dont believe there is anything but anecdotal evidence to support.....but back to the shamanic colonic....
 
^ That would imply that the dose of mescaline needed by injection would be a hell of a lot less, but as far as I know, the IM dose of mescaline isn't much less than the oral dose.

The 3,4,5-trimethoxy substitution probably allows the mescaline molecule to fit into the active site of MAO, but doesn't allow it to change to active conformation. 2,4,5-THPEA is inactive orally, so it would seem that the 4,5-dimethoxy groups need to have the 3 position free to be metabolized by MAO (3-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy is supposedly active at around the 250mg mark, but doesn't produce it's unique effects until 400-500mg). That in comparison to 3,4-methylenedioxyPEA, which is also inactive orally (same thing as the 4,5-dimethoxy groups of 2,4,5-TMPEA).

Other than the 3,4,5-trisubstitution pattern, the 2,4,5-pattern compounds are active if the oxygen on the 4 position (the methoxy group) is replaced by another atom, such as chlorine or carbon (methyl group). The 2C-T-x series exert a significant MAOI activity because of the similarity between the oxygen and sulphur atoms. The S of methylthio group interacts with the active site in the same way oxygen does, but prevents change to the active conformation of the enzyme. Not only does it do this, but it refuses to get out of the active site, so effectively inhibiting the enzyme
 
Plugging dmt?

i ordered some yopo seeds online, and the typical way to use them is to shell them, grind them, mix with some lime, and the snort them. however, all of the reports i have read on this involved EXTREME nasal pain usually followed by vomiting. I am wondering if i could plug the stuff. and suggestions?

(ps, definitely never plugged anything before)
 
my guess is that you'd have to actually want to use an acidic water extraction, not the basic powder. i'd imagine that lime up the bum would hurt as much as up the nose.

according to many reports, there is definitely MAO activity in the rectum (considering psilocybin/psilacetin appears to be about the same availability oral/rectal), you may need an MAOI as well. that can probably be plugged at the same time. rectalhuasca?
 
I think you'd be better off making a pH neutral solution with the seeds rather than introducing powdered seed to your rectum. I don't know how efficiently the rectum would handle hard seed powder and if it's not fine enough it's the kind of thing that could cause cuts and infections.
 
Yeah, I'd say extract the DMT and then plug a solution of it. Don't just make capsules of seed powder and shove them up there.

I'm going to merge this with a thread on rectal admin of DMT. Read from the start for some info. :)
 
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