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Tryptamines [DMT Subthread] Injecting (crystal clear) Extracts

So guys (especially DONDANTE):

Would the method that I proposed earlier (dissolving the DMT in vinegar, read my post above) work, in theory?

I'd like to try it, but I'd like your opinion on whether it would work or not.
 
today, I put a small amount of of lemon juice in a spoon, then put it onto 14-16 mg of met freebase through a rig and it went right into solution for injection.


ITS NOT AHRD!!!!
 
psilocybonaut said:
So guys (especially DONDANTE):

Would the method that I proposed earlier (dissolving the DMT in vinegar, read my post above) work, in theory?

I'd like to try it, but I'd like your opinion on whether it would work or not.
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the two posters on here who dissolve the synthetic DMT and did injections (one did IV the other did IM as far as I know) used citric powder added to the solution. They ended up with DMT citrate in solution.

This is probably better than doing vinegar. Check online for sources for citric powder USP (very cheap!).

(wheel filter, etc).

NO REASON AT ALL TO USE LEMON JUICE!
 
sadly a trip sitter in my current location for IV psychedelics (or IV anything) is not possible. Kudos to those who have friends that approve of their IV use, but I don't have any around right now. IVing is kind of disrespected.
 
psilocybonaut said:
So guys (especially DONDANTE):

Would the method that I proposed earlier (dissolving the DMT in vinegar, read my post above) work, in theory?

I'd like to try it, but I'd like your opinion on whether it would work or not.
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I've used both citric acid and vinegar. The citric acid seems more professional that's for sure. But there are reasons I know for using vinegar that I don't think hold to the same degree for citric acid. Namely acetic acid's known antibacterial, antiviral, and even fungicidal properties at even lower concentrations than is found in most store bought white vinegar. I'm not sure whether citric acid's properties are that favorable, though any low pH level will kill lots of stuff. Like I've said before, even food grade vinegar comes from a process of distillation, so if there's much in it besides distilled water and acetic acid it's not much, and you can be pretty sure nothing is living in it. Also, since you know the concentration of the acetic acid from the label you don't need to weigh out citric acid crystals, just dump the vinegar on and after the DMT is dissolved dilute it with sterile water. I still use citric, but there's an argument for vinegar. Correct me if I'm wrong. Search for "citric" in the DMT thread and you'll find my write up with more details. In fact, wasn't it you I wrote that for psilocybonaut?
 
^ lol pretty sure you're right.

I was gonna mention that a lot of us have talked about this already, psilocybonaut included ;)

stoners in here! I can smell your stoner grass you all smoke!!!

Just think of your hippocampi!!!
 
samadhi_smiles said:
sadly a trip sitter in my current location for IV psychedelics (or IV anything) is not possible. Kudos to those who have friends that approve of their IV use, but I don't have any around right now. IVing is kind of disrespected.
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Trip sitter? For DMT? Get outta here ... ;)

Blast off buddy is better.

3-2-1 ... 8o <3<3 =D=D<3 <3



To psilo, I've never used acetic acid, but it should work fine.

Note: I strongly recommend against injecting anything unless you have sterile equipment and a micron filter.
 
Well, the trip sitter comment was for form mostly. Of course I wouldn't use a trip sitter for DMT. LOL! I've smoked DMT more times than I can count/remember. I'm very comfortable with that chemical. (but, see below to continue the story of samadhi smiles...!).

yeah I wouldn't mind IVing some DMT at the same time with a close friend. I would want to know the person very well though before I did that though as that has the potential for getting very weird (as does doing intense psychedelics with another person in a room).

I don't know about ya'll but when I smoke 70mg of DMT reality gets fucking INTENSELY DIFFERENT.
 
may I ask why HCL or H2SO4 is not an option...yes, I know they are quite nasty chems, but HCL salts seem be more popular amongst the pharm industry, and I find that generally, in a HCL vs a citrate of the same base, the HCL seems to work better/seem more potent to me.

sulfates seem to work okay too.
 
^ I worked with HCL and Ascorbic when I went on a crack-shooting binge in New Orleans a couple of years ago. They both worked well, so long as you can measure you HCL appropritely. Ascorbic is more convenient, but I believe it is not healthy on the veins.
 
we usually lack the precision required to not leave the solution very acidic

something milder like citric powder USP is ideal I am told (I use vinegar so far for IMs and subq injections and it has worked wonderfully, infact vinegar is the standard recommendation in the bodybuilder arsenal of tools for mixing drugs and think about how many hundreds of thousands of injections they've done with that stuff).
 
im no scientologist but im going to say you probably shouldnt do it.

Synthetic DMT is as easy/or hard to aquire as most other RC's.
If you feel like IV'ing it id try to find some of the synthetic.

what happened, smoking lose its park?
 
well, I've done IV 5meo and crystal clear recrystallised DMT from a natural source... and I think IV is the worse way to do DMT.

The experiences I had with IV reminded me slightly of Shulgin's experiences of DMT IV... just not as pleasant or anything like smoking it.

But if you do it, you can use tartaric or citric acid to bring the ph to neutral.

I missed the vein once with the DMT... gosh that hurt! (and surely not good for the body!) And don't recommend it because of that, and also just because smoking is much better imo. If anyone reports differently, I would be quite surprised!

And anyway, taking it orally is generally considered to be the most satisfactory way to take DMT.


Julian.
 
Delsyd said:
im no scientologist but im going to say you probably shouldnt do it.

Synthetic DMT is as easy/or hard to aquire as most other RC's.
If you feel like IV'ing it id try to find some of the synthetic.

what happened, smoking lose its park?
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no, smoking provides beautiful experiences. I do not like the damage it does to my lungs, even with pure DMT. After smoking grams and grams of DMT my lungs developed a VERY bad cough (DMT vapor is HOT and is capable of irritating throat and lung tissue).

Smoking psychedelics has so far produced my best experiences but I think IVing the simple tryptamines will be much much better. I plan to start with 5-MeO-DMT.
 
Good luck with the 5 meo dmt.

the lung thing makes sense to me. personally i dont use dmt often enough for it to cause those effects on me.
And my lungs are made of steal from smoking herb from the time i wake up to the time i go to sleep.
 
samadhi_smiles said:
no, smoking provides beautiful experiences. I do not like the damage it does to my lungs, even with pure DMT. After smoking grams and grams of DMT my lungs developed a VERY bad cough (DMT vapor is HOT and is capable of irritating throat and lung tissue).

Smoking psychedelics has so far produced my best experiences but I think IVing the simple tryptamines will be much much better. I plan to start with 5-MeO-DMT.
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my brother said IVing 5meo dmt is over kill. not worth it at all!!!!

try to shoot MET if you geta chance, warning though, most of the HCL was actualy freebase!!!
 
what dosage level did he shoot at?

I'm thinking of shooting 1mg at a time. Maybe 5 or 6 needles lined up on my desk, one every half hour. I think mixing an opiate into that would be amazing but I'm concerned that 5-MeO-DMT may have slight MAOI properties (and nobody has yet to give me a solid answer whether MAOIs (which I always ask, A or B?) inhibit opiates). I want to acheive a state of euphoria that I plan will rival MDMA's euphoria.
 
If you take my word for it, there are at least a couple of studies that show that MAOIs (not specified what selectivity) increase Morphine's "analgesic" effects. What this means, your guess is better than mine. That being said, I have never heard of O-hydroxybufotenin (my favoured name for that chemical :)) has any worrisome MAOi effects. But it is commendable that you are researching all possible problems :)

In all honesty, I don't think your entire plan will work, my friend. Like DMT, 5-MeO-DMT produces acute tolerance, so just like smoking, doing another hit right after the first won't give you much effect. I could be wrong of course, but this seems to be what is "common knowledge" from what I heard.

5-MeO-DMT + opiates sounds very unproductive to me. DMT or DPT + opiates, I would understand...

If you're taking opiates to mask O-hydrobufotenine's negative peripheral effects, then I think its a good idea to avoid that particular drug altogether.

Don't let the opiates make themselves welcome at parties they don't belong at. That is definitely a very bad sign.
 
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