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Discussing drugs on the phone or by SMS

thats kinda why i use the names not codes really. its not terribly illegal to ask a friend if hes seen a friend, right?

If you are always using the same name to represent the same drug, then that is just another form of code. There is really no difference between using the name "Roxanne" to refer to oxycodone as opposed to using a code word like "boulders" to refer to them. It's still a form of code that can be broken, and unless the dealer has a close friend named Roxanne that you both actually hang out with often, it's not going to protect you in court, although it is better than not using any form of code.

I have read many articles about drug busts in which they say that the person was caught on a wire-tap using codes. None of them said "we almost caught the members of a drug ring and made a case against them, but since they referred to the drugs as a persons name, all of the people that were not caught with actual possession ("red handed") of the drugs got away scot free."
 
LOL again, people are way too paranoid about this shit.


If the cops want to take you in, trust me, the last thing they need is a text message to get you.


Sometimes I just talk in code for fun though, "You have any dandelions?" "whats up with those FUNGUyS?"

other times "I need a twenty dollar bag of marijuana from a cannabis plant delivered to my house so that I can partake in illegal activities" or "I WANT TO BUY SOME DRUGS"
If you think so, good, I don't care.

It's not that they will catch purely by phone, but when they're in doubts and/or know you participate in other illegal activities, the phone WILL help them to get you. Maybe they won't use it at court but it will tell them what direction to look in. My mother works at court, not as judge, as the person who writes what everyone is saying (court records or whatever its called). She told me several times cops explicitly say that if somebody texts someone 3 times every friday just asking "Whether he can come for a visit", it's so suspicious that they are 90% sure said person is going to visit him for drugs. Sure, its not illegal to say/write anything, but you can be helping them with investigation tremendously. If it takes so little effort to not use phones for this, why do it?

Also, network operators like Vodafone - at least here in czech - are required by law to store ALL phone calls and sms' for 2 years. So it's not like if you write somebody to get you H, cops will go visit your house in 5 minutes lol. But when they start investigate and find out you asked for it 80 times in last 2 years, its not good.

Forgot to add, of course you don't have to worry if you're just user. They don't care about drug addicts. But if you want to sell, every detail is important. Every big guy in history was caught by some stupid detail. ;)
 
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Its actually quite a bitch to meet with any dealer unless you call/text them lol 8)

At least for people that have real dealers, and dont just go to a street corner...


My point is, that if the cops are already looking through your phone records, theres nothing you can do to stop them.
 
Yeah, read what I added in my post, if you're the one who just buys for yourself maybe few close friends, it doesn't matter. But for huge things it's bad to use phone
 
Yeah alright I understand that. Still though... Ive talked about things on the phone that could easily put me and a few other people in jail for a very long time, with evidence to back in up of course.


but the whole "they monitor texts and search for key words" bull shit is exactly that lol... paranoid bull shit.
 
Uh, I don't say they have a team of people sitting somewhere waiting for every suspicious call, they'd have to have billion cops and unlimited budget for that lol. But if they really want to get someone hard, we're talking about maybe just 1% of all dealers and 0.001% of users, why wouldn't they do it, I see nothing paranoid about it.

Conclusion is, its very unlikely phones will cause you troubles but not impossible.

Also keep in mind, I generally try to be careful about everything I do, not just drugs, also driving on public roads, paying for what I caused and all.
 
The thing is..you said cops aren't stupid, they know what "champagne bottles" would be. Yes..true. But think about it like this. They would have to have a reason to look thru your phone in the first place to be suspicious. And chances are if they did find something then your phone is the least of your worries.

Now if you're talking about how the government can scan thru all texts for drug dealers / terrorist. Well then thats worthless too. They obviously dont read thru every text in the US so they have to set specific keywords. So they would tell the program to exclude all texts with (lets say...) "ganja" then they would never see your "champagne bottle" texts.
 
I never cared about that. But in Belgium users don't really have to worry about police or anything. Just the dealers.
When I was selling some pharms a while ago I didn't care either. But well, I only sold to a few good friends so it wasn't like my phone-traffic was more than usual or anything. :P

edit: maybe I didn't care back then because I was always "over-medicated" on benzos & tramadol among other drugs. ^^
 
dont really make much of a muchness, if the dealers wants code then ok if not then not, if cops are gonna bust your ass then they gonna do it reguardless, im thinking they need more than txt msgs to prove whatever, but im not legal savvy so im not sure, i could be wrong.
 
Junky's and Texting.. o..m...g.. Anyone Else Noticed?

Anyone else notice this, or is this just my situation/the people I know?

In my experience.. every single Junky I have ever known is absolutely TERRIBLE at texting. Meaning... these people's texts that they send me.. they make no sense whatsoever.

I just don't get it, I'm a junky, and I text with good spelling, grammar, and above all else, my texts make sense!

It's so weird... everytime I meet a new dealer of junk.. (meaning heroin).. I get their number... and when I get money I proceed to call them.

And everytime, they are not dumb or anything on the phone, they make sense, usually junky's that I might always seem pretty intelligient.

So everytime I end up texting them sometime shortly after calling them for deals for one reason or another, and everytime I wonder: "Maybe this guy will make sense in the text they reply with." "Maybe this guy wont annoy the fuck out of me by confusing me to NO END with their texting."

AND EVERYTIME, there fucking texts have grammatical errors up the arse, spell check needed BADLY.. but not just this, their texts DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE!!!
:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X.....<3 lol :D

I've known a lot of bad texters... (haha, "bad texters?" talk about not making any sense, but I didn't know how else to put it) in my day, but my theory has so far been fail-proof.. every junky I know is absolutely terrible at texting.

I know this might seem stupid for me to post about this, but it just is soo confusing to me why this always seems to be the case. It seems like their is a connection between "no-sense" texts and junky's.

What I'm wondering is... has anyone else experienced this theory to be true in their lives aswell?.. or am I just in some weird coincedence situation here?
 
This probably isn't relevent to OD, but yes they're grammar is fucking terrible and outrageously lazy as fuck. It's like they're attempting to create their own disturbing, lame, outdated slang persona
 
This probably isn't relevent to OD, but yes they're grammar is fucking terrible and outrageously lazy as fuck. It's like they're attempting to create their own disturbing, lame, outdated slang persona

I didn't know where else to put this.. so, sorry if this is in the wrong section.

But yes, I know! Right!? It's really important for a deal to go over well by the way someone texts. I have had many deals go terribly wrong for this reason, and it just seems like it's always the case. I just don't get it!!!!
 
While not as fail-proof as the texting conversations inevetible downfall.. I find that I can never hear what the fuck junkies are saying over the phone either.. which is why I usually end up texting in the first place.

So basically, I meet a dealer, can't hear what the fuck they are saying on the phone. I text them.. can't understand what the fuck they are talking about. Seriously, these people need to get better at this, they will have way more profit and an easier life if they just improve on or the other so that I can actually make a deal with these dumbfucks. Ughh, fuck heroin. (though I am feeling really good off my hit from earlier... :) ) but seriously... fuck heroin.. but.. haha, i dunno! PEACE!
 
Damn, now no one is going to reply to this! I don't think many people look at this section.. oh well, sorry about that, kinda new to this site still. Just really wondering about this theory, never heard anyone else mention this.
 
Most people suck at texting.

When I'm rushing, the first thing i do is grab my phone and spew off weird texts because I'm in such a good mood. After that I usually regret the texts. But they usually have decent grammar. I'm not a grammar nazi though.

P.s.- Lots of people visit Drug Culture. Its the page I visit the most.
 
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Damn, now no one is going to reply to this! I don't think many people look at this section.. oh well, sorry about that, kinda new to this site still. Just really wondering about this theory, never heard anyone else mention this.

Plenty of people look at Drug Culture.. you need to post where things are meant to be anyway though.. hah, not somewhere because you think it has a higher chance of being seen. Other Drugs is for discussions relating to harm reduction... not general talk about drug addicts and their behavior. That is for Drug Culture. :)
 
Plenty of people look at Drug Culture.. you need to post where things are meant to be anyway though.. hah, not somewhere because you think it has a higher chance of being seen. Other Drugs is for discussions relating to harm reduction... not general talk about drug addicts and their behavior. That is for Drug Culture. :)

Oooo okay, ya I haven't visited this place until now, but I definitely like it! Sorry, I didn't mean from my message that I purposely posted in the wrong section, I just got kind of scared for a second when it got moved because I had never heard of this section of bluelight. But now I realize it's pretty chill! So cool.
 
Most people suck at texting.

When I'm rushing, the first thing i do is grab my phone and spew off weird texts because I'm in such a good mood. After that I usually regret the texts. But they usually have decent grammar. I'm not a grammar nazi though.

P.s.- Lots of people visit Drug Culture. Its the page I visit the most.

Most people do, I'm not hating on junky's but I have definitely noticed more of a connection with junkys and bad texting then any other group of people.
 
Junky's -> ownership
"The Junky's phone."

Junkies -> plural
"Junkies and texting..."

Not trying to nitpick, but a dominant word in your post is a grammatical error on your part and yet:

I just don't get it, I'm a junky, and I text with good spelling, grammar, and above all else, my texts make sense!

So maybe I am trying to humble you a bit. The first word of the title of your post contains a fuck-up. Irony? Or maybe you're just like a lot of other people, where you don't have all of the answers for all of the grammatical situations in the English language? If it's the later, it's totally okay! Just be ready for criticism if you're going to expose yourself like this! I'm sure that you're a better writer than a lot folks out there. But at the same time, others might not make the mistakes you do, so don't get overconfident, my friend. :)

Some people really struggle with the English language, others excel at it and then most of us fall somewhere in-between. Do we intentionally sometimes operate at a level that is lower than what we could optimally test at? Sure. But why? Maybe we're doing it as a joke. Maybe we're impersonating another person who's not that great with typing. Maybe we want another person to think we're less intelligent than we really are (for any number of reasons*). Maybe we are really fucked up on drugs. Maybe it's dark in the room and the girl you brought home from the bar is nagging at you to come back to bed. Maybe you dropped your phone while on drugs and now some of the keys don't work properly? Maybe you handed your 9 year old the phone and told him to send a text for you, as both of your hands are covered in cake batter? Maybe English isn't your first language? The list goes on and on...

*I had an old dealer tell me that he intentionally would text like an idiot so that people would underestimate his intelligence.

So you're saying that there's a correlation between bad texting skills and heroin use? Perhaps, a lot of users probably do, on average, have less education than non-users and/or have less up-to-date technology available to assist their ability to use the language well (so we could make the good ol' socioeconomic argument). And then heroin users are often under-the-influence, which (unless you're Charles Dickens smoking opium and writing next to candlelight) isn't going to exactly improve your writing skills. Heroin casuses apathy too, and a lot of people probably just don't care if their texts would pass or fail a formal grade in an English course. As long as their skills are sufficient to the goal of obtaining more heroin and keeping the habit going, there's often not going to be a burning desire to try and text better.

Now if you'e trying to say that heroin use causes people to become worse texters, at best the answer is probably "situationally, perhaps." What I mean is that using heroin (negatively) affects your brain's ability to perform a lot of functions that require advanced thinking. And though using a language is advanced thinking, it's typically so ingrained in us already that heroin's not going to affect our ability to structure sentences, spell correctly, know how to use grammar rules, etc. much at all. It jusssssssssssssst migt maaaaaaakkkkkkkke this shiiiit happn ;)

In my experience (in a first-world country where use isn't as rampant in young, young kids as in other countries), most people obtain their level of English proficiency that they will carry through adulthood well before they really get caught up with heroin. I've met some really good writers who are hopeless addicts (I consider myself to be a good writer, and people actually make fun of me for using proper English always in text-messages), I've met some good writers who would NEVER think of doing something as pathetic and selfish as heroin (;)), I've met some people who are horrible writers who do heroin, and then I've met some horrible writers who don't use the drug. Throw in how it's often "cool" to type in weird/strange ways these days, and how these evolutions of the English language for texting and/or online posting tend to transcend things like whether a person does or does not use drugs/heroin, and I don't really think that there's a noticeable causation between using heroin and your ability to text well going down the drain.
 
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