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Differences between American and European drug culture

PurpleKush1 said:
Damn thank you man finally someone who knows how it is, the burn evenly argument is such horseshit. It only applies if you dont grind your weed fine enough. ANd if you dont your wasting weed lol. NO need for a grinder even some good work with some scissors will yeild a good result too. Weed is weed and tobacco is tobacco
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Yeah all you really need is a zigzag slowburn and minimal rolling skill to avoid canoeing with pure weed...

But fuck if I'm stocked on kush, I'll roll a big floppy sloppy ass joint and enjoy the hell out of it.. wasteful American style.
 
Niggasbebuggin said:
More adulterants are seemingly apparent in the U.S. though for some reason, as apposed to a lot of eastern europe with their super pills and what not. I guess really the consensus is more so that there are still better pill in certain areas of Europe that are also more wide spread that the USA. Also, PMMA/PMA is true, as well as mcPP but to my understanding the United States have had anything ranging from different sorts of Piperazine drugs like TFMPP and BZP to METHamphetamine and even certain agents found in moth balls.
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What your sayin basically is that Europe has some dangerous agents but in US has a more wirespread variety of cut agents in pills right? If so i totally agree. TBH i have tried BZP and another piperazine but im not sure which one, both because i dumbassed and didnt test my pill, meth i actually liked being hit with a meth bomb (i would say i prefered meth to mdma, mdma makes me an idiot in social situations), anyways where im going with that is the pipes and the meth felt amazing compared to the shit i had. White inpressed motorolla pill, Older reports from a few years ago on pillreports state it as MDma/MDa,but the one i had was def not that. For the record half a pill made my friend feel so bad he wen to the hospital, he is no lightweight guy would consume insane amoutns of amphet sulfate and coke together with coffee,rum and weed on top for days whitout break. I know i will never take anything related to Mdma, fuck that. I cant smoke weed anymore and i am complete mental wreck since last time.
 
Skunk is fucking rife in the U.K.
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Is that skunk#1 or super skunk or lemon skunk? In North America they use strain names, not some generic term like skunk.
 
and of course Skunk #9, Skunk #11, Purple Skunk, Early Skunk, Haze Skunk, and my favorite Skunk #1 hybrid; Jack Herer.

California shits all over the U.K. and even the Netherlands when it comes to quality/availability.
 
I doubt it shits all over it actually

people in Cali feel the need to tell you how awesome their weed is as if outside of that geographic area no good bud can be grown

even though everything on the top end is indoors anyway with climate controlled environments

the best weed is being grown in places nobody knows, some in Cali for sure

but not all of it
 
where i live (centeral canada) no one adds tobacco to there joints, where i live this is actually looked at as an "american and european" thing, however i live in a Shippng hub city, where there are alot of 18 year old americians coming up from north dakota to drink cause of the lower drinking limit.
 
yeah if I lived in North Dakota I'd be trying to get as fucked up as possible as soon as possible too
 
PurpleKush1 said:
What your sayin basically is that Europe has some dangerous agents but in US has a more wirespread variety of cut agents in pills right? If so i totally agree. TBH i have tried BZP and another piperazine but im not sure which one, both because i dumbassed and didnt test my pill, meth i actually liked being hit with a meth bomb (i would say i prefered meth to mdma, mdma makes me an idiot in social situations), anyways where im going with that is the pipes and the meth felt amazing compared to the shit i had. White inpressed motorolla pill, Older reports from a few years ago on pillreports state it as MDma/MDa,but the one i had was def not that. For the record half a pill made my friend feel so bad he wen to the hospital, he is no lightweight guy would consume insane amoutns of amphet sulfate and coke together with coffee,rum and weed on top for days whitout break. I know i will never take anything related to Mdma, fuck that. I cant smoke weed anymore and i am complete mental wreck since last time.
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In all honestly when Piperazine's are mixed with other drugs they can become pretty dangerous as well, but I guess mostly that is what I am saying. Just from what I've noticed recently, with it becoming less and less, is more adulterants are found as apposed to pure MDMA in pills. As where if you were to get methamphetamine or amphetamine in your pills it would still be pretty enjoyable if the dosages is not too high and you are somewhat expecting it. But of late it seems that I have not seen much amphetamine or methamphetamine as cutting agents in pills, in both the U.S. and certain parts of Europe. I guess it's really how you look at it, because both scenes are very different scenes when certain substances are compared to each other, if that makes sense. But, to each their own I suppose, I can understand how one person may not like a drug as another person might, so it's respectable.
 
Niggasbebuggin said:
In all honestly when Piperazine's are mixed with other drugs they can become pretty dangerous as well, but I guess mostly that is what I am saying. Just from what I've noticed recently, with it becoming less and less, is more adulterants are found as apposed to pure MDMA in pills. As where if you were to get methamphetamine or amphetamine in your pills it would still be pretty enjoyable if the dosages is not too high and you are somewhat expecting it. But of late it seems that I have not seen much amphetamine or methamphetamine as cutting agents in pills, in both the U.S. and certain parts of Europe. I guess it's really how you look at it, because both scenes are very different scenes when certain substances are compared to each other, if that makes sense. But, to each their own I suppose, I can understand how one person may not like a drug as another person might, so it's respectable.
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Definitly, i think too the only adulterant thats ok is spedd in E pillls lol. 2c-b in medium dosages isnt bad either imo. But pipes, nasty ass ephedrine, pma, rc stimulants is wack in pills. That pill in europe felt like a mix of 3-4 different substances, effects would chage in a cycle like pattern, and well after my body and mind felt more wrecked than after several days up on meth or coke. Its sad though, im sure in like 10 years, like a pill out of 10 000 will contain mdma, or maybe it will be completly replaced by methylone and butylone and shit like that.
 
the amount of false pill paranoia on this website is almost as bad as anti-drug paranoia

if youre having such a hard time sleeping at night buy a test kit that cost more than the pill itself

but dont try and bring a cloud over the rest of us ok?
 
^ Not sure who this is in regards to, but you act like you have never seen a piperazine pill, in which I can assure you they are very much existent. And even a test kit can be wrong, trust me. That's why you take the extra precaution each time you take a pill, I think that's where your "false pill paranoia" comes from.
 
I know they exist im just saying fentanyl cut heroin exists too welcome to the world of unregulated drugs

write a letter to you local representative if you cant take dealing with it
 
You seem to act as if no one else on this forum knows this. Why do you think this paranoia is existent? Most likely due to your fentanyl cut heroin, piperazine pills, levamisole cut cocaine, etc. It's all there, some people are just not willing to take a risk some times, as sad as it is to say. Most average test kits won't tell you that there might be piperazine in your MDMA, nor will it most likely tell you about the fentanyl in your heroin, it's all something we must measure out before we take the drugs, some people don't get that, no need to get hostile about it.
 
@shimazu
Who sounds like a douchebag now?

where i live (centeral canada) no one adds tobacco to there joints, where i live this is actually looked at as an "american and european" thing,
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Wow, are you guys misled...
Redneck joints: doesn't burn properly,you waste the roach (but since most of you keep their precious roaches in baggies it's even worst), and it's a drag to pass it around your friends, since the ending get wet from saliva and big-mac sauce from fingers, and get destroyed. Some argue that it tastes better that way, but it's a matter of personal choice of course.

Gentlemen (aka UK/Europe) joint: professional looking, burn nicely (no "spooning" or whatever you call it, in French it translates like that), have a good, solid form (more rigid) that stays that way, you can smoke it 'til the end thank to the european filtre.

Make sure to tell all you friends, I don't want canadians to believe that we roll crappy joints in France
We already lost enough battles, let us having "that"...

Were is Jasoncrest when I need him to help defend the spliff? =/
 
shimazu said:
the amount of false pill paranoia on this website is almost as bad as anti-drug paranoia

if youre having such a hard time sleeping at night buy a test kit that cost more than the pill itself

but dont try and bring a cloud over the rest of us ok?
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LOL the day you are hit with a fucking nasty ass pill which contains god knows what your gonna be paranoid too. Its not our problem you live in an utopian world where E pils are all MDXX. Ive had pills that were positive for 2c-b, 2c-E,pipes,meth, mdma mixed with DPH, shit ive even popped a suposedly E pill once that was PCP. Most of the people who eat the dirty pills think that what E is. Sorry to burst your bubble but were not in 1995-2000 where most the X was actually mdma or mda. Have fun popping all kind of RC's because your so though and paranoia is for pussys :) .
shimazu said:
I know they exist im just saying fentanyl cut heroin exists too welcome to the world of unregulated drugs

write a letter to you local representative if you cant take dealing with it
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Shit go pop a zanny or something no need to be a fucking douche over nothing?
Fuzati said:
@shimazu
Who sounds like a douchebag now?


Wow, are you guys misled...
Redneck joints: doesn't burn properly,you waste the roach (but since most of you keep their precious roaches in baggies it's even worst), and it's a drag to pass it around your friends, since the ending get wet from saliva and big-mac sauce from fingers, and get destroyed. Some argue that it tastes better that way, but it's a matter of personal choice of course.

Gentlemen (aka UK/Europe) joint: professional looking, burn nicely (no "spooning" or whatever you call it, in French it translates like that), have a good, solid form (more rigid) that stays that way, you can smoke it 'til the end thank to the european filtre.

Make sure to tell all you friends, I don't want canadians to believe that we roll crappy joints in France
We already lost enough battles, let us having "that"...

Were is Jasoncrest when I need him to help defend the spliff? =/
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Damn i dont what americans u chill with but the ones i know roll very nice joints. Also i have loads of French friends, leur bedo sont plein de tabac, .2 pour une clope, c degeulasse et les gens pensent que cest normal. By the way i roll pure joints, and i use what you call toncar (aka mouthpiece), my joints burn longly and very rarely sideburn, i dont waste no weed either. I used to puprposely leave a few drags on a joint so whem im out i could roll a joint of roaches better than nothign.

My point is, fuzati, that if you know how to roll, you dont need tobacco so its a good spliff. I guarantee you i can make a joint drag and smoke as well when its just weed than your mixture. Grinding weed to a fine powder helps btw.
 
PurpleKush1 said:
My point is, fuzati, that if you know how to roll, you dont need tobacco so its a good spliff. I guarantee you i can make a joint drag and smoke as well when its just weed than your mixture. Grinding weed to a fine powder helps btw.
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Honestly I know a lot of people who say this "if you are good at rolling it's no problem to use pure weed" and honestly I have seen plenty of people who consider themselves good rollers fuck up when it's pure weed. The slightest bubble of air or loose crease will make a pure weed joint canoe (sideburn). the slightest inconsistency at all, sometimes unavoidable due to poorly cured weed, will fuck shit up. possibly irreparably. using tobacco solves these problems of wet weed, accidental crease or air pocket etc., it is much better to be safe than sorry. one doesn't even have to use much tobacco, even 20% will help out a lot and won't make the taste much different.

we are not all ignorant in america plz.

edit: forgot the most important reason, already been touched upon, the shit burns slower!
 
SirTophamHat said:
Honestly I know a lot of people who say this "if you are good at rolling it's no problem to use pure weed" and honestly I have seen plenty of people who consider themselves good rollers fuck up when it's pure weed. The slightest bubble of air or loose crease will make a pure weed joint canoe (sideburn). the slightest inconsistency at all, sometimes unavoidable due to poorly cured weed, will fuck shit up.
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Have you only seen high schoolers roll or something?

On average, we don't roll as often as Euro-garbage (they're better at it overall), we prefer glassware if indoors (or if you're a wigger, blunts all day), and joints outside, and we mostly share and form a stoner circle. Usually the best roller in the group gets tasked with the sacred duty. And we roll them large and fat on purpose because good weed is easy to find and it gets to be passed around more.

And French people, you can't even begin to comment on the hygiene issues with passing a joint around..
 
NerdOnDrugs said:
On average, we don't roll as often as Euro-garbage (they're better at it overall)
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Who's surrendering now?
And we roll them large and fat on purpose because
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murica?

My point is, fuzati, that if you know how to roll, you dont need tobacco so its a good spliff. I guarantee you i can make a joint drag and smoke as well when its just weed than your mixture. Grinding weed to a fine powder helps btw.
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T'inquiète je sais, je déconne juste sur les gros clichés ^_^
Salut à toi!

Grenouilles

SirTophamHat, that's good to know that some americans use this method as well, spread the word for a world with superior joints.
 
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