Current LSD Dicussion Mk6

[headfuck123]

A friend of mine had a bit of a psychedelic meltdown off 1 morrison on tuesday night. trip was all going well then he shot up from his chair, muscles tight, neck turning eyes fixed of something with his arms stretched out as if he had some magic power trying to move stuff with his mind. He was convinced he could make things move with his mind for the rest of the night and kept going in a loop of telling me to leave, saying he was going to bed and i should get a taxi (4 hours into the trip). I reassured him to just stay up with me until the trip settled down which he agreed to reluctantly, then to go into the loop again soon after making for a pretty tiresome and freaky night. At some points i was convinced he had snapped and he was gona kill himself and me because he said stuff like, "I should just do it now to get it over with". When i asked what he was on about he seemed to be terrified to tell me what it was he was on about. He claimed to have some sort of psychic link with his aunty who lives in london and the freaky thing is his aunty wrote this status that day:

"wow scorpio full moon on wednesday has more than a touch of melodrama about it. Taurus and scorpio signify how we view the 2 basic laws of life: life and death, creation and destruction, fulfilment and annihilation. This full moon shines a light in the darkest places as only scorpio can authentically do, don't be afraid, have a look, the snake needs to shed its skin in order to grow. rebirth, grow, pain, unhealthy addictions in toxic relationships will all be magnified, examined and somehow we will find our truth, karma again calls, it may be time to answer. enjoy the exsqusit experience."

The freaky thing is that it was a full moon and as it turned 12am wednesday, he started acting strange out of nowhere as if a swing set in his head. He also woke to tell me his aunty had booked him a flight to london to talk about this "power" and the connection they have. He had tripped plenty times before, the setting couldn't have been better and he seemed to be pretty level headed until 12am. I wonder if the acid enduced something actually spiritual/psychic or it was simply a psychotic episode?

 

[Shazbuckle]

Has anyone heard anything about what these Marvels or Captain Americas are going around Ireland these days? Apparently they've put 7 in hospital. One other guy who had taken them told me he was delirious all night and kept thinking his friends were dead, there were police in the room and that he was wounded all over. He was traumatized afterwards and had PTSD. This was off one tab and he had been experienced with acid before

Would love to figure out what these were for harm reduction. The media is saying it was speed laced with amphetamines. God damnit.

 

[ColtDan]

A friend of mine had a bit of a psychedelic meltdown off 1 morrison on tuesday night. trip was all going well then he shot up from his chair, muscles tight, neck turning eyes fixed of something with his arms stretched out as if he had some magic power trying to move stuff with his mind. He was convinced he could make things move with his mind for the rest of the night and kept going in a loop of telling me to leave, saying he was going to bed and i should get a taxi (4 hours into the trip). I reassured him to just stay up with me until the trip settled down which he agreed to reluctantly, then to go into the loop again soon after making for a pretty tiresome and freaky night. At some points i was convinced he had snapped and he was gona kill himself and me because he said stuff like, "I should just do it now to get it over with". When i asked what he was on about he seemed to be terrified to tell me what it was he was on about. He claimed to have some sort of psychic link with his aunty who lives in london and the freaky thing is his aunty wrote this status that day:

"wow scorpio full moon on wednesday has more than a touch of melodrama about it. Taurus and scorpio signify how we view the 2 basic laws of life: life and death, creation and destruction, fulfilment and annihilation. This full moon shines a light in the darkest places as only scorpio can authentically do, don't be afraid, have a look, the snake needs to shed its skin in order to grow. rebirth, grow, pain, unhealthy addictions in toxic relationships will all be magnified, examined and somehow we will find our truth, karma again calls, it may be time to answer. enjoy the exsqusit experience."

The freaky thing is that it was a full moon and as it turned 12am wednesday, he started acting strange out of nowhere as if a swing set in his head. He also woke to tell me his aunty had booked him a flight to london to talk about this "power" and the connection they have. He had tripped plenty times before, the setting couldn't have been better and he seemed to be pretty level headed until 12am. I wonder if the acid enduced something actually spiritual/psychic or it was simply a psychotic episode?

Fuckin ell is he alright now?

Ive never tried acid.. will be trying soon.... but been stuck in a loop from something else, half drove me nuts

 

[AcidTrippin]

Has anyone heard anything about what these Marvels or Captain Americas are going around Ireland these days? Apparently they've put 7 in hospital. One other guy who had taken them told me he was delirious all night and kept thinking his friends were dead, there were police in the room and that he was wounded all over. He was traumatized afterwards and had PTSD. This was off one tab and he had been experienced with acid before

Would love to figure out what these were for harm reduction. The media is saying it was speed laced with amphetamines. God damnit.

I somehow stumbled across this and was wondering what the situations was with that. Thanks a lot for sharing see your from Ireland so any more info please share.

 

[headfuck123]

Fuckin ell is he alright now?

Ive never tried acid.. will be trying soon.... but been stuck in a loop from something else, half drove me nuts

He seems to be but its hard to tell how someone is after an experience like that. Me and his sober brother tried to stay with him as long as possible that night to make sure he didn't do anything stupid because he was going from proper delirious to normal tripping again. At about the 10th hour of the trip i felt i outstayed my welcome and it was getting light outside. Couldn't sleep a wink that night thinking he would kill himself or his brother that night. Got such a sense of relief waking up to reassuring texts from both of them in the morning.

 

[abrad84]

Has anyone heard anything about what these Marvels or Captain Americas are going around Ireland these days? Apparently they've put 7 in hospital. One other guy who had taken them told me he was delirious all night and kept thinking his friends were dead, there were police in the room and that he was wounded all over. He was traumatized afterwards and had PTSD. This was off one tab and he had been experienced with acid before

Would love to figure out what these were for harm reduction. The media is saying it was speed laced with amphetamines. God damnit.

I'd love to hear more about this too. I'm guessing they're NBOMe tabs but it would be great if we could get one analysed. If anyone has any information and doesn't want to post it here could they please PM me?

 

[ColtDan]

Yeah it is hard to tell... could be PTSD or something after that... had some mild PTSD after my fucked up experience

 

[headfuck123]

yeah i was thinking that. He got badly jumped in his early teens (fractured skull etc) and after one of his episodes he finally grounded himself long enough to tell me that during the weird episode it was as if he was back in that situation, he could feel every punch and see everything exactly how it happened as if he relived the traumatic experience again. Don't know how or why that happened but its interesting non the less how the mind can regress to significant moments like that.

 

[CloudSailor]

I've just read the story above. I have quite a lot of years of experience with acid. One single time I ended up in one of these loops. I had taken speed for about a week before and almost hadn't slept for all those previous days and nights. Anyway I joined a group of friends for a BBQ and we all dropped down a single Shiva (the blue & red Shivas, 140µg). Anyway I knew from the moment I swallowed the paper that it wasn't the right moment for me trip. From that point, things just got worse. Anyway to cut the story short one of my friends who always has some strong medication with him since he's considered borderline drove me back home and gave me a tablet to take. He told me to take it and get ready for bed. 15 minutes after swallowing it I already felt a lot more relaxed and 15 minutes after that I was fast asleep. The next day was a Sunday and luckily I didn't have anything do. I just felt so drained out until that evening. This 'antidote' is called Mirtazapine. It literally knocks you out but only if you don't take any kind of antidepressants on regular basis. My friends takes one every two days and drives to work with them. When taken for the first time or occasionally it has very strong sedative & anxiolytic effects but it also works as the most powerful sleeping tablet I've ever taken and it's extremely fast acting. This medication is used on people on regular basis for treating depression. After taking it for a few weeks the sleeping effects wear away and it then becomes an antidepressant. I am not advising anybody here to start using any type of medication. All I want to say is that having a few of these available when people are on acid can really prevent bad trip going wrong or getting worse (avoiding serious accidents or injury). I would say that this emergency solution should only be used as a last resource if trying to calm the person really doesn't work. And there is NO WAY a person should let to drive after taking this. Make sure somebody stays with the person until the she/he is in bed. It should take 30 minutes until they're asleep. These tablets can be found at some online stores I guess. They come with 30mg (maybe less) dosage. If used 1/2 should be enough. Administrate the other half only if the person is still not feeling more relaxed after 15 minutes. To me is the only 'antidote' to acid (and other psychedelics I guess) which really works. It s works so much better than benzo's.

Mirtazapine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ColtDan]

Cheers for the info, pretty sure my friend got prescribed some of them but stopped taking them, might see if i can get a few off him

 

[headfuck123]

cheers for that info CloudSailor. I had some of those a while back but gave them away because i didn't like the idea of using AD's if i didn't need them, didn't know they could be useful in that scenario though. I tried to give my friend some etizolam but he was so paranoid that it seemed he thought i was trying to poison him. He eventually took a few drops of etiz solution but it didn't seem to calm him down that much.

 

[Shazbuckle]

I somehow stumbled across this and was wondering what the situations was with that. Thanks a lot for sharing see your from Ireland so any more info please share.

No problem. The guys friends who all took the captain americas have subsequently taken more afterwards (albeit not a full tab) in order to "conquer" the drug. This kind of stuff is why we should try and figure out what has happened.

I think the fact that several groups of people have had terrible reactions to this tab means it is not simply the case of inexperienced people freaking out because they have taken too much.

Personally I don't think it was an nbome, since 1mg on a tab for me was nice, but not crazy (and I have little tolerance for psychs). I couldn't see how complete delirium would happen. Even insufulating a good dose nasally there were no hallucinations which weren't there.

 

[ColtDan]

Make a thread about it

 

[Shazbuckle]

There is a thread, it's called "Watch out for Scuzz", given because the media really fucked up on reporting it. I thought since this thread was about discussing whats being sold as lsd around europe/africa, someone might know what's in the tab

 

[matt<3ketamine]

Not on my life. If those on Hoffs were but 25-50ug higher than Morrisons I never did take acid and know nothing. I kinda doubt that is the case. You actually see the difference?!? One causes smiles. T'other causes meltdowns and licking of leaves and obsession with laser light 'pon one's chest. There's not even a remote comparison.

A friend of mine had a bit of a psychedelic meltdown off 1 morrison on tuesday night. trip was all going well then he shot up from his chair, muscles tight, neck turning eyes fixed of something with his arms stretched out as if he had some magic power trying to move stuff with his mind. He was convinced he could make things move with his mind for the rest of the night and kept going in a loop of telling me to leave, saying he was going to bed and i should get a taxi (4 hours into the trip). I reassured him to just stay up with me until the trip settled down which he agreed to reluctantly, then to go into the loop again soon after making for a pretty tiresome and freaky night. At some points i was convinced he had snapped and he was gona kill himself and me because he said stuff like, "I should just do it now to get it over with". When i asked what he was on about he seemed to be terrified to tell me what it was he was on about. He claimed to have some sort of psychic link with his aunty who lives in london and the freaky thing is his aunty wrote this status that day:

"wow scorpio full moon on wednesday has more than a touch of melodrama about it. Taurus and scorpio signify how we view the 2 basic laws of life: life and death, creation and destruction, fulfilment and annihilation. This full moon shines a light in the darkest places as only scorpio can authentically do, don't be afraid, have a look, the snake needs to shed its skin in order to grow. rebirth, grow, pain, unhealthy addictions in toxic relationships will all be magnified, examined and somehow we will find our truth, karma again calls, it may be time to answer. enjoy the exsqusit experience."

The freaky thing is that it was a full moon and as it turned 12am wednesday, he started acting strange out of nowhere as if a swing set in his head. He also woke to tell me his aunty had booked him a flight to london to talk about this "power" and the connection they have. He had tripped plenty times before, the setting couldn't have been better and he seemed to be pretty level headed until 12am. I wonder if the acid enduced something actually spiritual/psychic or it was simply a psychotic episode?

yea definately weak ass trips them morrisons 8) pfft

 

[Shambles]

^ The ones I had were. Everybody who took them agreed. As I've said several times it looks quite likely there is more than one batch around and they are dosed very differently. Alternatively some haven't been stored properly somewhere down the line. I do know the difference between weak and strong acid - and so did everybody else who used from the same batch.

Has anyone heard anything about what these Marvels or Captain Americas are going around Ireland these days? Apparently they've put 7 in hospital. One other guy who had taken them told me he was delirious all night and kept thinking his friends were dead, there were police in the room and that he was wounded all over. He was traumatized afterwards and had PTSD. This was off one tab and he had been experienced with acid before

Would love to figure out what these were for harm reduction. The media is saying it was speed laced with amphetamines. God damnit.

A thread was posted about those Captain America tabs yesterday. Suspected NBOMe but can't be positive until (or unless) somebody gets them properly tested. It won't be acid + speed cos that's just plain silly but NBOMe seems most likely. Possibly one of the DOx chems but there's not really anything else that would fit on a blotter that seems even remotely likely. NBOMes have history of hospitalising people - there's something a bit iffy about them and particularly taken at high dose which is entirely possible if people think it's acid as NBOMes are not very active when swallowed so people could easily assume it was very weak acid and take waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

Not on my life. If those on Hoffs were but 25-50ug higher than Morrisons I never did take acid and know nothing. I kinda doubt that is the case. You actually see the difference?!? One causes smiles. T'other causes meltdowns and licking of leaves and obsession with laser light 'pon one's chest. There's not even a remote comparison.

first you state there is no chance (not on my life as you put it) that they are just slightly weaker than hofmanns

^ The ones I had were. Everybody who took them agreed. As I've said several times it looks quite likely there is more than one batch around and they are dosed very differently. Alternatively some haven't been stored properly somewhere down the line. I do know the difference between weak and strong acid - and so did everybody else who used from the same batch.

then you revert to try and save grace because, well just look at headfucks post, the fact there may be stronger tabs from the same sheet than the ones you had (like i said unevenly laid perhaps) still hasnt registered

please please shambles, stop going around threads saying negative shit when near everyone else is disagreeing, ive noticed it in the meph thread and im noticing it here, ive had alot of respect for ya over the years, dont let it drop because of a bit of blotter

 

[Shambles]

I've repeatedly said that there could be more than one batch around. Why should I pretend the ones I had were strong if they weren't? How is that in any way useful to anybody? I've said the ones I have had - and took with three other BLers - were nice, clean but weak. We all agreed on this. Are we all conspiring against Jim Morrison tabs? Are we all trying to piss in the pool for shits and giggles? Or maybe - just maybe - we all happened to have weak Jim Morrisons.

I have no interest in conforming with others just to please you and live up to whatever standard you think I should be living up to. I have a strict policy of always being completely honest about my opinions and experiences on all drug matters. I have a passionate belief in Harm Reduction and scrupulous honesty in all drug-related matters is a major part of that.

I not only said the ones I had were weak I also said that there would appear to be a stronger batch around as the effects described are so markedly different. I recommended everybody assume they are getting strong tabs and exercise caution because our experience appears to be anomalous.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

I've repeatedly said that there could be more than one batch around. Why should I pretend the ones I had were strong if they weren't? How is that in any way useful to anybody? I've said the ones I have had - and took with three other BLers - were nice, clean but weak. We all agreed on this. Are we all conspiring against Jim Morrison tabs? Are we all trying to piss in the pool for shits and giggles? Or maybe - just maybe - we all happened to have weak Jim Morrisons.

I have no interest in conforming with others just to please you and live up to whatever standard you think I should be living up to. I have a strict policy of always being completely honest about my opinions and experiences on all drug matters. I have a passionate belief in Harm Reduction and scrupulous honesty in all drug-related matters is a major part of that.

I not only said the ones I had were weak I also said that there would appear to be a stronger batch around as the effects described are so markedly different. I recommended everybody assume they are getting strong tabs and exercise caution because our experience appears to be anomalous.

i did not see this from you, hence the previous post, if it is shown to me, i will apologise for my remarks and sit back in my corner, until then, you know my opinion and it is only that, an opinion, just like yours

 

[Shambles]

Not that I need to prove myself to anybody and not that I think apologies are necessary (they're not - it's entirely legitimate to challenge people if you believe them to be misleading in some way) but...

Not had dolphins to compare so can't really say anything about that. May well be more than one batch doing the rounds so would be best to presume they are 150-odd ug and see how it goes. The ones I had were definitely LSD, felt nice and clean, felt pretty damn weak. Pleasant but not even close to triple digit doses.

And it's not just me saying it as I mentioned.

+1..
Lovely clean acid but fairly weak......4 would be bliss! :D

Almost every post I've made about them I have stressed there could well be - and probably is - more than one batch around as the differences in described effects are so drastic. That's legitimate information to be giving cos there really is a massive difference between 50-70ug and 150ug+. You want to be sure which ones you have if there are two batches cos it's not a mix-up you'd want to be making.