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crystalized opium

I have had white-rock opium and it was opuim. I am positive.
tasted like candy, mmmmmmmmmmmmm.

It got me euphoric as fuck.
It was a cloudy white rock though. not clear.

Maybe this helps?
 
the white rock you speak of IS NOT OPIUM. It's morphine base, the stage before its acetylated with acetic anhydride and turned into diamorphine.

clearish crystal like opium is possible, i read an article about turskish opium production and certain local turkish strains of the somniferum poppy produde a pink to almost clear latex that is of a very,very high alkaloid content and would most likely have a clearish, crystal like composition when dried.
 
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[Edited- Please do not encourage this, it's a violation of the guidelines. Thanks]
 
Angelus, etc...

I would think that I would have come across something like that. Since I have never heard of such a thing could you please provide at least one reference so I can take a peek? If you are referring to the UNDOC paper, it does not mention anything like that.

As for high alkaloidal content, the highest content is in Serbian poppies and they rarely exceed 18% morphine content [and their opium is never anything other than brown].

Opium is never clear, pink, or crystalline. When it is exuded it comes out as a white latex the consistency of light cream. With oxidation [at least 12 hours] it will turn brown to black and thicken up considerably. If you treat it, boil it and dry it, you ewill have a 20% lighter material with the consistency of "silly putty" [hence the name "pod putty"].

People mentioned "morphine." In morphine base the color is dark brown to tan, never white. White morphine is only possible after refining that base so that it would take a concerted effort.

I am glad that many have convinced themselves that is in the realm of possiblity. I can only hope that tyhose of you who believe this will take that as a building block to really explore the substance and find out the truth.
 
Re: Fizz is correct...

rachamim18 said:
People get "faded" after insuflatting "white - out." That does not mean that I want to emulate those geniuses. As far as we know, we only have one life, it is too precious to live life as a "garbage head." Protect yourself.
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Are you referring to me as a "Garbadge Head" for trying the crystals after I felt as though there was enough proof around me to point to the fact that he this guy had some kind of crystallized opiate that I wanted to try, and did?
 
What did the crystals look like chucks or loose crystally powder? The only time I have seen anything resembling 'opiate crystals' would be one time I had 4 or 5 bags in solution and I squirted it out onto a glass plate and than after a day I scraped it up and it was tiny crystal shards it was #4 so it wasnt really smokable, but I suppose some people could get high if they smoked it and didnt really use opiates.

I would suspect you could do the same thing with base heroin and have the same crystally return and that might be a bit more smokeable. That said its highly unlikely anybody would sell that.

As for buying things off a lot that are rare or unheard of I would have never let the guy get away with just an explaniton of 'opium crystals' I would probably hammer away at him untill he admited to what his gear really was. If your slanging something you know what it is or a very damn good idea using such a loose slang as 'opium crystals' would lead me to believe it was some sort of fake-opium that produced a effect on might 'conclude' is a opiate high. I have seen it hundreds of times with R.R. that White opium, even clearish looking opium, none that was the real thing.

Synto-

Did you have time to bring some home and have a closer examination? How much did it take to get a buzz? How much crystal was needed [mg wise, estimation?].

If it was winter time maybee it was frozen fent. chipped of and sold as opium crystals [j/k, kinda]. Ever since I read that post regarding freezing the Duragesics I have been having fantasies of fent. ice cubes in a nice glass of lemonade or a nice fruit punch/fent. popsicle.

Im babbling...
 
blahblahblah said:

If it was winter time maybee it was frozen fent. chipped of and sold as opium crystals [j/k, kinda]. Ever since I read that post regarding freezing the Duragesics I have been having fantasies of fent. ice cubes in a nice glass of lemonade or a nice fruit punch/fent. popsicle.

Im babbling...
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You make it sound very tasty:)
 
the white rock you speak of IS NOT OPIUM. It's morphine base, the stage before its acetylated with acetic anhydride and turned into diamorphine.
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Thank you!!! While a majority of the opium you buy is fake, a decent portion of the cloudy/clearish white stuff is morphine base. I have seen it and seen it made firsthand! ;)
 
Synto...

First, do not take it to heart because almost everyone reading this exchange will have been at that same, exact place at least once in their life [I know that I have]. Be that as it may, try and learn from others' mistakes. Just because you are surrounded by people that look as if they are feeling the substance in question is no reason to try it yourself unless you first ascertain the true nature of the substance in question. As I said, you only live once.
 
If it turns out to be fentanyl I hope for your sake that it is either cut up very well, or you take a small enough amount since fentanyl dosages are measured in mics. my favourite way of ingestion is through a nosespray which delivers 50 mics per shot
 
Learn from others' mistakes? I saw a group of people who had smoked an opiate with no ill effects, watched a few smoke it with no ill effects, so proceeded to smoke some myself and don't regret it. I eat rolls without knowing the exact substance within. I'm sure everyone that buys coke or smack knows every time they buy that they're getting really pure coke and smack, right? There's no way to be 100% sure unless you have a lab setting, which most of us don't. I guess it's a personal matter. Everyone takes their own level of caution.
 
at the first bonnaroo, some dude offered us some opium. i was expecting the black tar goo, but when he showed us a bag, it was glass-like rocks of a light brown color. my buddy bought some and the dealer asked him if he was going to shoot it or smoke it, cus if we were gonna shoot it, we should be careful. kinda strange i remember thinking at the time....we put some on a bowl and when the flame touched it the "opium" slowly melted away and crytalized the pot. it made the bowl last a very long time and coated the inside of the glass. the effects were of a strong opiate and we enjoyed smoking it at night for the next couple days. soon however, my buddy became convinced it was heroin and threw it out the window as we drove home. not sure what it was, but it was defintely an opiate.
 
Eating rolls...

I will offer a little subjective example. Were you to see me when I was actively using [for one period of time anyway], you would have observed me injecting about a gram of NYC heroin in one shot [taken as a 60% half gram]. many of my "buddies" were using more. If one was to follow your line of thought, it would be enough to observe us doing so without the slightest ill effect before doing the same yourself. Of course you would have died the second the plunger was depressed. Is it all so imple?

In any event, "eating rolls" will not lead to respitory depression, coma, and death. how could you even try to use that as an example?

You are right on target that "most people buying so called hard drugs have no idea what they are getting." that is why it is of the utmost importance to ascertain what you are using and then to purify said substance to the highest possible degree. Of course, in reality hardly anyone will ever do that but that does not automatically negate that life saving advice. that also does not apply to an entirely unknown substance that does not exhibit any similarities to the substance it is purported to be. For example, if I was offered "crack" that was purple and had the consistency of "Jello" would it be sufficient to simply observe the effects in my "buddies" before dropping it in the "stem?"

"Lab setting..." You do not need a lab to p[erform a simple Marquis. In fact, most US pharmacies now offer a simple home kit that will guive you a color coded result to make it all so simple.

BudTokem: As for your buddy, it was not heroin, that is certain. As with actual opium, it would melt into a viscous dark brown/black oil and then "run." From your description, it does not sound like any opiate/opioid.
 
Opium in the US, laugh. Only way you will ever see opium in the US is if you grew it, your friend grew it, or your friend's friend grew it. You need wayyy to many flowers to get each gram (around 20 pods roughly) so even a big crop would result in enough opium to get high like 20 times, or get a group of people high a handful of times. As for smuggling it, its too risky for a drug that works the same on the brain as heroin/morphine, but its 80% shit. You can get it in Canada cause you can legally grow poppies their, but even then its not common. The price a kg of opium would cost is close to the price of what a kg of opium would cost to smuggle into the country. The closest thing you will see to real opium is black tar heroin, which if you are on the west side you might see, but you won't see it on the east. As for people selling morphine base as opium, why not use heroin? If your selling something other than what you advertise it as, its usually just fake. All red rock is fake, and in the US 99% of the opium black or white is fake or misrepresented. First give away is people always talk about the opium smelling flowery when they smoke it, this isn't true I know people that smoked opium in vietnam and said it smelled like burning chemicals, and tasted bitter, like vitamin C. People really don't understand how powerful the placebo effect is, especially with drugs you bought, noone wants to get beat, nor think its even a possibility and if they don't know what to expect your head can easily trick you. Also notice how most people smoke opium with weed, and you usually hear of how it intenses the high. Real opium will floor you if you smoke enough of it, luckily this is almost never an issue. Another thing to think about, see how often opium grow ops get busted, and how many opium smugglers get busted. If it is as common as LSD in your town, or if you see it more often than LSD how come they bust people for LSD all the time, yet almost never bust people for opium possesion. Opium is too big of a waste of time, its too easy to convert it to morphine and sell that to someone to make it into heroin. Its easier to make heroin than it is meth, if opium was so common and $20 a gram, $200 an oz you would see heroin labs setting up left and right. A gram of pure heroin is worth $200-300, an oz of opium would make about 6 grams of heroin, or you could get 9-10 grams of morphine with even less chemical knowledge. Morphine sells for a good amount of money if it can be IVed, just remeber than next time your getting fuxxored off your piano wax, incense, or dragons blood incense think about drug economics and ask yourself, how much money would this drug make? How many heroin/painmed addicts do you know vs opium addicts.
 
Re: Eating rolls...

rachamim18 said:
I will offer a little subjective example. Were you to see me when I was actively using [for one period of time anyway], you would have observed me injecting about a gram of NYC heroin in one shot [taken as a 60% half gram]. many of my "buddies" were using more. If one was to follow your line of thought, it would be enough to observe us doing so without the slightest ill effect before doing the same yourself. Of course you would have died the second the plunger was depressed. Is it all so imple?

In any event, "eating rolls" will not lead to respitory depression, coma, and death. how could you even try to use that as an example?

You are right on target that "most people buying so called hard drugs have no idea what they are getting." that is why it is of the utmost importance to ascertain what you are using and then to purify said substance to the highest possible degree. Of course, in reality hardly anyone will ever do that but that does not automatically negate that life saving advice. that also does not apply to an entirely unknown substance that does not exhibit any similarities to the substance it is purported to be. For example, if I was offered "crack" that was purple and had the consistency of "Jello" would it be sufficient to simply observe the effects in my "buddies" before dropping it in the "stem?"

"Lab setting..." You do not need a lab to p[erform a simple Marquis. In fact, most US pharmacies now offer a simple home kit that will guive you a color coded result to make it all so simple.

BudTokem: As for your buddy, it was not heroin, that is certain. As with actual opium, it would melt into a viscous dark brown/black oil and then "run." From your description, it does not sound like any opiate/opioid.
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Yes buddy, it is so simple. I've been injecting oxy and H, the H in somewhat large amounts due to my tolerance now. I wouldn't shoot a gram after watching you and your buddies, I'd just think you were super junkies. I wouldn't shoot a gram of heroin period, as I know my body can't handle it. Eating rolls could too lead to respitory depression, coma, and death depending on what's in your roll. There have been quite a few people die from eating too many beans that had a certain substance in them. It's a legitimate example. How can you use the purple jello crack exaple? No, it wouldn't be suffiecient for you to observe the effects of your buddies before dropping it into the stem. Hopefully you'd have the sense to observe the drug and come to your own conclusion as a logical person that it wasn't crack and ask your buddies what they were doing. Your saying there's a simple marquis that'll tell me the purrity of my H?
 
opium, again...

Arabs? Actually Hmong are the primary importers [mainly in Minnesota] but they do not sell to non-Hmong.

Synto:Marquis do not ascertain purity, and I did not claim that they did. What they will do however, is ascertain whether - or - not the "crystal opium" you thought you had was really an opiate.

As for you not following my buddies [and mine] example when injecting heroin, why would you then assume that exact attitude when it came to that unkown substance? That was your behavior and you explained it away by claiming that since you saw your buddies doing it, and since they were not apparently suffering any ill effect, and especially because they appeared very intoxicated, you decided that it was o.k. to do it yourself EVEN THOUGH you had no idea what you were putting into your body. Again, been there done that [for years] and now regret it. Why not simply engage in positive behavior?
 
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