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[Comparison Subthread] Acid vs. Mushrooms

I find mushrooms far more "arrogant" and unsettling than LSD, when taken at comparably high doses. I always tell people who go on about how "gentle" 'shrooms that they simply haven't eaten enough of them.
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Namaste,
Cliff
 
frizzantik said:


Also i find it hard to get stoned while on mushrooms, while on acid i find just a little bit of pot makes me feel very stoned. thats not to say smoking pot on mushrooms doesnt effect you.. you just dont feel 'stoned'
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If I am tripping really hard, no matter how much pot I smoke at the time, I won't feel it at all.
 
I have never done acid, but psilocybin reminds me of walking in a dark forest inhabited by gnomes. I felt like i was a lonely mushroom in a land of trees. ITs not bad, its good!
 
I find mushrooms to have a rather speedy effect. I want to move around and whatnot. Of course, sitting down can be quiet comfortable about midway through the trip. Basically, anything is good.
 
I completely disagree with the above poster. Mushrooms alone and I usually don't feel a need to go walking around, though I'll usually do so anyway. Acid much moreso, I won't be able to sit still. Add in MDMA to either and it is much more stimulating, especially mushrooms.

Mushrooms - sedating, dreamy, earthy, confusing, visuals: ()

Acid - up, speedy, anxious, chemical, visuals: <>

The Matrix/Lord of the Rings comparision works well.

Frustrated comments are quite accurate as well.

I don't really see mushrooms as arrogant in any way, shape, or form. On high doses of mushrooms, I won't be able to complete a thought, much less feel any sense of superiority. Acid, however, I can see as being more arrogant.
 
Acid is like having your consciousness rocketed off the planet, the come-up is always such a bumpy ride and I always think "eating that tab was a real bad idea." Then all of the sudden... it's like time stops and everything is so unbelivably cool.

Shrooms on the other hand give me a stomach ache, confusion and paranoia. I do them once in a while to remind myself why I shouldn't do them.
 
I was wondering what the difference is between mushrooms on his own and mushrooms+mdma?

Ok.. stimulating ofcourse.. but will there be any other effects?.. more visuals? And do you still have that loved up feeling and the feeling that everything is so wonderfull?
 
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I've heard it described this way:

Mushrooms: You're couped up in a cave with sconces or a campfire. The walls are covered with moss and your own voice is echoing in the most unusual way. Wait, you're not even speaking at all. Who is that? Is that a snake? No, it's a coil of rope. Colours are rich and deep. They have this holy glow to them. Feels sacred in a way. You're afraid, as though you've been reduced to a small animal, a muskrat or a beaver. Or, merely, realized this is how you've been all along. Beavers, what funny looking things! And you lapse into laughter.


LSD: Smash. Did something fall off that shelf? The doorbell rings. The milk man has stolen you away in the back of his truck, which is filled with all sorts of 24th-century looking gizmos. What's going on? Is this derranged delivery boy going to hurt you? Look at the size of his brain! Everything is buzzing and beeping. Streetlights outside are flashing in the window. How did it become night time? Crash. There's been an accident. You're just floating now. You can feel the resonance of every atom and subatomic particle in the universe. They are all giggling, chiming their endless numbers of hilarity in your ear.


I've also heard the two compared as syrups. Mushroom "syrup" would be thick and rich, with a deep hue, of the Jemima variety. LSD "syrup" could be more a long the lines of mutigen, as on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or some kind of glassy plasma you'd see in a science lab.

Either drug is psychedelic, but psychedelic can't be used as a blanket term the way "depressant" or "stimulant" can. Two different psychedelic drugs can be as foreign to eachother as PC and Mac.
 
the matrix analogy followed by Frustrated's comments are the most accurate here. Very nicely put too. And I have done acid (up to 250mics approx) and 1/8th of dried shrooms a couple times and an ounce and a half of fresh mushies once.


LSD is more "alive"
 
Terence McKenna's comparison of LSD and DMT (closely realted to Psilocybin): "Well, LSD lasts hours and hours and tends to be, I think my own phrase is, abrasively psychoanalytic. Essentially, I think LSD does what most people think psychedelic drugs do ... they cause you to review past memories, they cause you to see your life in a different light, and so on ... DMT is not like that, it seems to go beyond the personal dimension, it doesn't matter who you are or where you started from ... it carries you into its own world -- a world that is alien in its own terms and doesn't have a lot of information in it about your psychology or your dilemmas. So it's less useful for psychoanalysis and more useful for exploring what I consider to be pretty dramatic paranormal dimensions, considering they're so easily accessed."
 
alasdairm said:
how can an inanimate substance be "arrogant"?

alasdair
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Well you're right, it can't extrinsicly... It's just tough not to run into personification of a substance or concept which exaggerates characteristics of your own. With the same reasoning - we can't really say red is mad, blue is sad, and yellow happy. They're just colors, trying to mind their own business :X :( :)
 
I am going to agree with most of you by saying they are mostly nothing alike.

Mushrooms definatly make me more confused UNtill your get use to them.It gives you less energy than acid.Doesn't last as long and I see alot more colors on mushies just swirling around.IT gets more dreamy.somtimes on mushrooms your body feels weird.They are both fun though so enjoy the mushrooms and try not to worry or else that can cause problems.:D
 
ive never done acid, and only had mushies once before.

i found it to be earthy, any natural surroundings look enhanced and beautiful. i didnt actually hallucinate anything though.

as for the body load, i felt like a zulu warrior with tiger blood pulsing through my veins. and i really mean pulsing! it felt like i was more in touch with my animal instincts, like i was in some sort of tribal ritual.

cant wait to try LSD, think ill wait a few months till im in europe though, the trips in western australia suck balls in a big way.
 
PassMeTheVicks said:
LSD, more mind fuck/mantal activity and more wired

Shrooms, warmer gentler buzz and way more controlable high.

Id take acid over shrroms anytime ANYTIME!
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You just haven't taken enough shrooms. Take 10 grams of good quality shrooms and you wont say its gentle at all. Reguardless of how many hits I take and how hard I'm triping on lsd, I'm always able to hold onto some bit of reality unlike on shrooms.
 
I will agree that mushrooms in high doses can really blow your mind. But for me, mushrooms are less anxiety producing than LSD. Even when losing touch with everythin on shrooms, I am able to relax and just go there, whereas with LSD I was finding that to be more and more difficult. Also, after doing several trips on over 1000 mics, now I can take just 500-600 mics and trip hard as holy hell. With shroomage I still just ake one dose, a big one usually, and go with it. Even taking a half ounce at once does not cause panic, although there is always a little bit of fear for me.

LSD is the drug that makes me wonder if I will ever return to reality. The last few trips I had scared me badly even though they were not total freak-outs. Most of you familiar with LSD know the difference between a bad trip and a freak out.

I have freaked on shrooms, but only once, and only on about 5 grams. I still don't know what happened. I just freaked right the fuck out. My friends watched me scream and holler, but did not take me to the hospital because they were able to see that I was just freaking out and was in no physical danger. To this day I thank them for not panicking.

Anyway, I do not find shrooms and LSD to be even remotely similar. Maybe if someone just took threshold doses they would be similar, but that is only because the experience itself is not comprehensive on small doses.

I determined for myself that somewhere around 700-800 mics LSD things are the most intense. Increasing the dose, even to 1500 mics, only seems to lengthen the trip.

Same with mushrooms. I have eaten an entire half ounce of dried cubes many many times, and even though the trips are usually VERY intense, they still only last about 6-7 hours. 1500 mics LSD had me tripping for over 30 hours. I thought I was going to trip forever.

I haven't done LSD since 2000 because I am genuinely frightened to, and cannot say why.
 
30 hours of tripping on LSD would freightened any normal person to the point of being scared of taking one hit after the experience.
 
AlmostFamous said:
30 hours of tripping on LSD would freightened any normal person to the point of being scared of taking one hit after the experience.
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This is very true!!

Acid, its like you "wake up", and you see everything the way it is, or should be, and then you forget what you were just thinking about and go in a different direction. It empowers you, gives you a sense of dominance and amazement, as everything just happens around you. (until your own mind starts to work against you)

Mushrooms are definetly more about the visuals. Making your body feel drunk, making it harder to move around, like you weigh 100 pounds more than you do. There is nothing empowering about shrooms, more like your a cartoon character, watching a cartoon. I can truely say i feel like a cartoon mushroom when i do them, i also get lathargic (sloth-like), my movements are slower and mind feels like goo.

Acid =Power, enlightenment Mushrooms Cartoon-like virtual reality game
 
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