Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

[Invegatorture]

You think I not recovered in 15 months because i smoke a lot of cigarets?

No. But I do think the amount you smoke is not helping. I think I read you smoke 20-40 a day? That's putting extra stress on your body when it could be using that energy for healing your brain. The more you smoke, the less oxygen in your blood.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

No. But I do think the amount you smoke is not helping. I think I read you smoke 20-40 a day? That's putting extra stress on your body when it could be using that energy for healing your brain. The more you smoke, the less oxygen in your blood.

What do you think honestly? I’am cooked since the effects and sympthoms are lasting for 15 months since i got only 2 injections?

 

[Invegatorture]

What do you think honestly? I’am cooked since the effects and sympthoms are lasting for 15 months since i got only 2 injections?

I will be honest. I don't think it's over for you, it is concerning you have not improved for 15 months but I still don't think it means you are cooked.

Everyone reacts differently to these poisons and risperidone may be worse than invega. There are also other factors in your case, that you were given the injections with "cold blood" and you were on meds before which *might* have put your brain into a sensitive/fragile state before being given the high dose of risperidone. Which could slow down recovery significantly. That's just a theory of mine.

Keep taking supplements and eat some wild caught fish if you can. I have hope for you and myself because I have healed from overdrugging and fucked reactions in the past.

Stay strong mate and keep going. Complain and vent if it helps. I know it's tough.

 

[Invegatorture]

Ok this is kind of crazy… but I actually feel better and it’s tangible and real. The weight of this stuff is getting lighter, I can feel it. I’m also starting to feel anxiety again and it actually feels good to feel it because that means my body is starting to come back online.

I know I’m always so negative on here but I feel like I’ve had a breakthrough just over the last couple of days…

I am not close to 100% at all, but I’m finally feeling like I might actually get through this… I think it’s just going to be a few more months of this. I think I might make a full recovery by next year. Maybe I can even start working by January. I’m feeling motivated to do something with my life actually.

It’s been close to 10 months for me. 290 days exactly.

This is fantastic news. You can make a full recovery from the seemingly impossible I promise.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I will be honest. I don't think it's over for you, it is concerning you have not improved for 15 months but I still don't think it means you are cooked.

Everyone reacts differently to these poisons and risperidone may be worse than invega. There are also other factors in your case, that you were given the injections with "cold blood" and you were on meds before which *might* have put your brain into a sensitive/fragile state before being given the high dose of risperidone. Which could slow down recovery significantly. That's just a theory of mine.

Keep taking supplements and eat some wild caught fish if you can. I have hope for you and myself because I have healed from overdrugging and fucked reactions in the past.

Stay strong mate and keep going. Complain and vent if it helps. I know it's tough.

Tonnight i had a dream about that girl i’am in love with, she had a leg mutilated, his face was changed in his lineaments, she was really sad and she was screaming “they took away my consciousness from me” while his family was around her trying to comfort her.

There was a memorial for the consciousness “they” took away from her, and i reached her and hugged her and i was trying to support her. I tought she had a bad bike crash and this is because she lost his consciousness and got his leg mutilated and his face was changed.

But i dint asked her what is happened, i don’t know why i dreamed that, it was a vivid dream, really vivid, it left me in shock..

Anyways today is the same bad day for me and its even bad compared to the norm, always torture again..

 

[Invegatorture]

Tonnight i had a dream about that girl i’am in love with, she had a leg mutilated, his face was changed in his lineaments, she was really sad and she was screaming “they took away my consciousness from me” while his family was around her trying to comfort her.

There was a memorial for the consciousness “they” took away from her, and i reached her and hugged her and i was trying to support her. I tought she had a bad bike crash and this is because she lost his consciousness and got his leg mutilated and his face was changed.

But i dint asked her what is happened, i don’t know why i dreamed that, it was a vivid dream, really vivid, it left me in shock..

Anyways today is the same bad day for me and its even bad compared to the norm, always torture again..

I read your messages and I can see how much you are suffering. I was there with invega. Not 15 months but 6 months. It was so dark. I had no hope because I had an acute dystonic reaction to the meds and I truly believed i was permanently damaged. So I understand your pain.

It's good you are dreaming at night, i know your sleep isn't great but it's something. A sign of some rem sleep. Which I think is very important for the brain to recover.

If I had to put my money on it I do believe you will improve eventually. I have so much hope for myself and others due to my experiences with anitpsychotics. Especially if they eat a lot of meat, fish and dairy. I believe in the carnivore diet and I have always recovered fully. Hot baths as well to increase blood circulation.

 

[Invegatorture]

I totally understand tho why you and others on here don't have hope. These drugs are truly evil. All you can do is take each day one at a time. Moment to moment, and do anything you can to distract yourself and fill your day.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I totally understand tho why you and others on here don't have hope. These drugs are truly evil. All you can do is take each day one at a time. Moment to moment, and do anything you can to distract yourself and fill your day.

Yeah i know.. it’s just that my time since last injection start to sound a little serious now.. 15 months without recovery it’s seem a red alarm to me

 

[Invegatorture]

Yeah i know.. it’s just that my time since last injection start to sound a little serious now.. 15 months without recovery it’s seem a red alarm to me

I am not certain you will recover. I am not God. But I will say that if you do, you WILL have an aura and a level of self confidence that can't be faked. You said this before and I can confirm it's true. You feel unstoppable. And so grateful to be alive.

 

[Invegatorture]

@RisperdalConsta50mg also the fact you had a window that you felt better is a great sign. I think this is significant.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

@RisperdalConsta50mg also the fact you had a window that you felt better is a great sign. I think this is significant.

I only got 21 august my first window, then 10 days ago the second window..

 

[Invegatorture]

I only got 21 august my first window, then 10 days ago the second window..

That's great man it's something!! Maybe you are one of those cases that took so long but eventually you made it out. I hope this is true for you.

Could you explain again how you felt and what you experienced during these windows?

 

[Invegatorture]

I’ve spent the day reading multiple versions of this forum and it seems that recovery is seems that recovery is the rule and not the exception. The hard part and bitter pill to swallow is that it takes time, perhaps around six months before there is a breakthrough of any kind. It’s a waiting game and one that is pernicious in that it consumes you, well it has consumed me. In the meantime during this hell period of waiting, most of us suffer from anhedonia- and because of this we are unable to enjoy our previous hobbies and adequately distract ourselves. This makes waiting that much more torturous. We can only hope as time goes on, we can slowly begin to enjoy our recreational activities again. From what I’ve gathered it’s going to be a wait of around 6-12 months before the average person sees any improvement and in the meantime we can support each other on these forums.

@raw banana I was wondering if your recent positive experience is still current. You are sitting at that point where one can expect early signs of recovery.

It will be a hell of a struggle but you can get through this. If others have in the past you can too.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

That's great man it's something!! Maybe you are one of those cases that took so long but eventually you made it out. I hope this is true for you.

Could you explain again how you felt and what you experienced during these windows?

Usually since these injections i have altered state of consciousness and awareness and blunted perception of the envoirments and the ambience around me, like i’am inside a dream, i’am fewerish and almost drunk. normally i have 5/10, but at least 3/4 days per week i got peak where they go until 8-10/10.

During these 2 Windows, it went down to 2-3/5 and for a Moment i feel almost normal, connected with the ambience and aware of the present and almost normal, like i was before..

 

[Invegatorture]

I took some more ritalin. 10mg is a low dose especially while on antipsychotics. Taken 30mg today.

I generally feel calmer with less negative thoughts. It's improved my inner restlessness. Feel more mentally awake.

I won't be on this long term, just wanted some relief.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

I took some more ritalin. 10mg is a low dose expecially while on antipsychotics. Taken 30mg today.

I generally feel calmer with less negative thoughts. It's improved my inner restlessness. Feel more mentally awake.

I won't be on this long term, just wanted some relief.

I went to the sleep clinic department of the hospital because i wanted to check if my sleep got altered or damaged by these injections and they started to talk about nonsense things like psychological or psychiatric things and they bring on the table sleep pills when they dont even did this exam to me and i got angry i just said “dude just chill we don’t have even take a look into my sleep and we are already talking about sleeping pills and mental issue”

Yo like wtf is that shit they put pills on the first Line not even knowing if it necessary and i bring that to the table and i made them know that I don’t buy these bullshit anymore and my unconditional trust to doctors is over.

I will do the sleep exam next week..

 

[Deleted member 592205]

Bro like if you don’t protect yourself these doctors basically pharmaceutically assault you and push you into any sort of pill like wtf is that, western medicine is a joke for real.

 

[Invegatorture]

Bro like if you don’t protect yourself these doctors basically pharmaceutically assault you and push you into any sort of pill like wtf is that, western medicine is a joke for real.

My psychiatrist wanted me to stay on Abilify and to try an antidepressant for my side effects. I knew that was extremely risky and would not do much if it were to help at all.

They want to fix problems caused by meds with more meds.

 

[Deleted member 592205]

My psychiatrist wanted me to stay on Abilify and to try an antidepressant for my side effects. I knew that was extremely risky and would not do much if it were to help at all.

They want to fix problems caused by meds with more meds.

Exactly. In my case went like that:

Paroxetine —> sleep problems
Sleep problems —> quetiapine
Quetiapine —> tremors and shaking

Then they bring to the table anti-shaking pills but i told them that as my doctor said the best thing is to step back and stop taking unnecessary pills.

NOW I have risperidone damage or lasting effects and they already try to push me into Reagila (partial antagonist) but i refused. They try to put me on valium but i refused. They try to make it seem that i’am just depressed and wanted to bring again paroxetine, i refused.

You have literally to protect yourself like if you are a naked woman in the middle of the street at nightime, these doctors keep trying to chemically assault you. This is sick and crazy.

 

[Invegatorture]

Usually since these injections i have altered state of consciousness and awareness and blunted perception of the envoirments and the ambience around me, like i’am inside a dream, i’am fewerish and almost drunk. normally i have 5/10, but at least 3/4 days per week i got peak where they go until 8-10/10.

During these 2 Windows, it went down to 2-3/5 and for a Moment i feel almost normal, connected with the ambience and aware of the present and almost normal, like i was before..

I feel disconnected from my self and nature. When I healed it all came back. Like my soul came back. Can't wait for this to happen for you and everyone here.