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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v11

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RisperdalConsta50mg said:
I only got 21 august my first window, then 10 days ago the second window..
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That's great man it's something!! Maybe you are one of those cases that took so long but eventually you made it out. I hope this is true for you.

Could you explain again how you felt and what you experienced during these windows?
 
lukeflowz said:
I’ve spent the day reading multiple versions of this forum and it seems that recovery is seems that recovery is the rule and not the exception. The hard part and bitter pill to swallow is that it takes time, perhaps around six months before there is a breakthrough of any kind. It’s a waiting game and one that is pernicious in that it consumes you, well it has consumed me. In the meantime during this hell period of waiting, most of us suffer from anhedonia- and because of this we are unable to enjoy our previous hobbies and adequately distract ourselves. This makes waiting that much more torturous. We can only hope as time goes on, we can slowly begin to enjoy our recreational activities again. From what I’ve gathered it’s going to be a wait of around 6-12 months before the average person sees any improvement and in the meantime we can support each other on these forums.

@raw banana I was wondering if your recent positive experience is still current. You are sitting at that point where one can expect early signs of recovery.
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It will be a hell of a struggle but you can get through this. If others have in the past you can too.
 
Invegatorture said:
That's great man it's something!! Maybe you are one of those cases that took so long but eventually you made it out. I hope this is true for you.

Could you explain again how you felt and what you experienced during these windows?
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Usually since these injections i have altered state of consciousness and awareness and blunted perception of the envoirments and the ambience around me, like i’am inside a dream, i’am fewerish and almost drunk. normally i have 5/10, but at least 3/4 days per week i got peak where they go until 8-10/10.

During these 2 Windows, it went down to 2-3/5 and for a Moment i feel almost normal, connected with the ambience and aware of the present and almost normal, like i was before..
 
I took some more ritalin. 10mg is a low dose especially while on antipsychotics. Taken 30mg today.

I generally feel calmer with less negative thoughts. It's improved my inner restlessness. Feel more mentally awake.

I won't be on this long term, just wanted some relief.
 
Invegatorture said:
I took some more ritalin. 10mg is a low dose expecially while on antipsychotics. Taken 30mg today.

I generally feel calmer with less negative thoughts. It's improved my inner restlessness. Feel more mentally awake.

I won't be on this long term, just wanted some relief.
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I went to the sleep clinic department of the hospital because i wanted to check if my sleep got altered or damaged by these injections and they started to talk about nonsense things like psychological or psychiatric things and they bring on the table sleep pills when they dont even did this exam to me and i got angry i just said “dude just chill we don’t have even take a look into my sleep and we are already talking about sleeping pills and mental issue”

Yo like wtf is that shit they put pills on the first Line not even knowing if it necessary and i bring that to the table and i made them know that I don’t buy these bullshit anymore and my unconditional trust to doctors is over.

I will do the sleep exam next week..
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Bro like if you don’t protect yourself these doctors basically pharmaceutically assault you and push you into any sort of pill like wtf is that, western medicine is a joke for real.
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My psychiatrist wanted me to stay on Abilify and to try an antidepressant for my side effects. I knew that was extremely risky and would not do much if it were to help at all.

They want to fix problems caused by meds with more meds.
 
Invegatorture said:
My psychiatrist wanted me to stay on Abilify and to try an antidepressant for my side effects. I knew that was extremely risky and would not do much if it were to help at all.

They want to fix problems caused by meds with more meds.
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Exactly. In my case went like that:

Paroxetine —> sleep problems
Sleep problems —> quetiapine
Quetiapine —> tremors and shaking

Then they bring to the table anti-shaking pills but i told them that as my doctor said the best thing is to step back and stop taking unnecessary pills.

NOW I have risperidone damage or lasting effects and they already try to push me into Reagila (partial antagonist) but i refused. They try to put me on valium but i refused. They try to make it seem that i’am just depressed and wanted to bring again paroxetine, i refused.

You have literally to protect yourself like if you are a naked woman in the middle of the street at nightime, these doctors keep trying to chemically assault you. This is sick and crazy.
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Usually since these injections i have altered state of consciousness and awareness and blunted perception of the envoirments and the ambience around me, like i’am inside a dream, i’am fewerish and almost drunk. normally i have 5/10, but at least 3/4 days per week i got peak where they go until 8-10/10.

During these 2 Windows, it went down to 2-3/5 and for a Moment i feel almost normal, connected with the ambience and aware of the present and almost normal, like i was before..
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I feel disconnected from my self and nature. When I healed it all came back. Like my soul came back. Can't wait for this to happen for you and everyone here.
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Exactly. In my case went like that:

Paroxetine —> sleep problems
Sleep problems —> quetiapine
Quetiapine —> tremors and shaking

Then they bring to the table anti-shaking pills but i told them that as my doctor said the best thing is to step back and stop taking unnecessary pills.

NOW I have risperidone damage or lasting effects and they already try to push me into Reagila (partial antagonist) but i refused. They try to put me on valium but i refused. They try to make it seem that i’am just depressed and wanted to bring again paroxetine, i refused.

You have literally to protect yourself like if you are a naked woman in the middle of the street at nightime, these doctors keep trying to chemically assault you. This is sick and crazy.
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Are you on any meds currently?
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Meds free - drug free (weed basically) since 15 months, i just try CBD but i dint like it. I want to protect my SNC, i just can’t stop smoking cigarets and this is my only issue about SNC right now
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That's good bro. Keep that up. I don't think the cigs are a major issue, but obviously would be better if you were to cut back a bit. If they give you a distraction tho they serve a purpose.
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
Meds free - drug free (weed basically) since 15 months, i just try CBD but i dint like it. I want to protect my SNC, i just can’t stop smoking cigarets and this is my only issue about SNC right now
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Do you have access to raw milk? The cream in it is very calming and nourishing for the body. The brain is made of raw fat after all. I drink 2-3 pints a day atm and believe I will make a quicker recovery due to this.

I sound like a broken record but I can't reccomend it enough after making two full recoveries. I don't see it as random, I believe diet plays the biggest role.

Raw fat and raw protein. Raw eggs provide this if raw milk is not available. Just a suggestion.
 
Invegatorture said:
That's good bro. Keep that up. I don't think the cigs are a major issue, but obviously would be better if you were to cut back a bit. If they give you a distraction tho they serve a purpose.
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It scare me that I don’t realize i dint shower in the last 5 days, before this shit i hat at least 1 shower or bath every day, if I was hitting the gym even 2 shower per day. This is not me, i had a military-like self care and hygene, i was Regulary shaving,showering, brush my teeth, my home was so clean that even girls were impressed and told me i was the most clean guy they meet. This is so fucked up.
 
Invegatorture said:
Do you have access to raw milk? The cream in it is very calming and nourishing for the body. The brain is made of raw fat after all. I drink 2-3 pints a day atm and believe I will make a quicker recovery due to this.

I sound like a broken record but I can't reccomend it enough after making two full recoveries. I don't see it as random, I believe diet plays the biggest role.

Raw fat and raw protein. Raw eggs provide this if raw milk is not available. Just a suggestion.
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I have milk intollerance and after these injections I developed more intollerance like eggs and cheese, idk why
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
It scare me that I don’t realize i dint shower in the last 5 days, before this shit i hat at least 1 shower or bath every day, if I was hitting the gym even 2 shower per day. This is not me, i had a military-like self care and hygene, i was Regulary shaving,showering, brush my teeth, my home was so clean that even girls were impressed and told me i was the most clean guy they meet. This is so fucked up.
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I've gone through phases like this while on abilify. The depression makes hygiene very difficult. I understand
 
RisperdalConsta50mg said:
I have milk intollerance and after these injections I developed more intollerance like eggs and cheese, idk why
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I see. Maybe the meds fucked your gut micro biome. If you can't consume milk eggs and cheese go for straight meat, medium rare-rare if possible. Nutrients are damaged when fully cooked. If you have the money rare steak is very good.
 
Don't trust doctors when they say the conventional diet of cooked food and loads of fruits and veggies is healthy. That's wrong. And designed to make you sick - so you pay for meds.

Meat dairy and fish will give everyone here the best chance of recovery along with supplements.

For example B vitamins are crucial for proper brain function but they are destroyed at high heat, and no matter what google says, they are only found in animal products in a way thats bioavailable for humans.
 
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