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Coming off Invega/Xeplion (paliperidone) injections v 12

Brendan Clark said:
Do you think the things that I used to be passionate about will come back when my brain receptors cycling completes the cycle? Will I go back to being the old me? That's what I want more than anything, as I feel like I lost part of who I was, the person I was intended to be. I feel like I lost my personality and I really don't like this current version of myself.
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That's exactly where I am, Brendan. You likely have a much better shot, once you're off the Invega (I would suggest not going on other antipsychotics like I had to because of insomnia) ~
Maybe it'll take a little time, which I surely know is brutal to get through, but you're young, once free of these awful meds, your brain will likely find its balance again, that's my two cents anyway.
 
flystr8 said:
Like my nose literally feels concrete i can’t breathe through it like someone has broken my nose LOL and i’m still in a ward - but being out wouldn’t have made it better - i’m using sudafed to try and help but i’ve been here before it takes so long for these symptoms to go, it only gets worse … i got like 4 months of this blocked concrete feeling in my nose where i literally can’t breathe up it without sudafed …

id love to see them pay too; but thats why i want to keep faith in the lord
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You think the meds caused the 'concrete' nose? That would be weird. Sounds awful though. Yea, I wish I still had faith in the Lord. Lost that completely. Definitely a bummer.
 
I went to the park today with sister, brother-in-law, and young nieces. I remember how I used to play with my niece before this invega and how even though I tried playing it didn't generate that same kind of happiness it used to for me, like I was just going through the motions. If it was my old self nothing would have been able to stop the child inside me, but invega took that away. Will this ever return?? I was doing better in the end of June but this last dose was the straw that broke the camel's back it feels.
 
Distance yourself from your experiences.
Don't expect to reach the perfect peace and happiness of earthly life. This should be your new attitude : no matter what your experiences are, enjoy them objectively, like you would a movie. You need to find true peace and happiness within yourself. Your external experiences should just be fun. You can make everything miserable if you let your mind do that. It's possible to be in good health and not appreciate it at all. But if you don't feel well, then you'll appreciate what it means to be healthy. Show gratitude to God for what He gives you, without waiting for troubles to become thankful.
You are an immortal child. You came to Earth to have fun and enjoy yourself. That's why life should be a mix of meditation and activity. If you lose your inner balance, that's when you become vulnerable to worldly suffering. Don't dishonor the name of God, in whose image you were made. Awaken the innate power of your mind by affirming: "No matter what experiences come, they can’t touch me. I am always happy."
Sri Sri Paramahansa Yogananda
 
Matthew01 said:
But they can combat the effects
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It's not quite as simple as just addng a dopamine agonist and that will automatically counteract the effects of a dopamine antagonist. Dopamine agonists can be nasty on the heart as well and cause weird symptoms like gamblng and sex addiction and also hallucinations and psychosis of course. Imo if you want something dopaminic to help the anhedonia try methylphenidate
 
Brendan Clark said:
I went to the park today with sister, brother-in-law, and young nieces. I remember how I used to play with my niece before this invega and how even though I tried playing it didn't generate that same kind of happiness it used to for me, like I was just going through the motions. If it was my old self nothing would have been able to stop the child inside me, but invega took that away. Will this ever return?? I was doing better in the end of June but this last dose was the straw that broke the camel's back it feels.
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Hey, just getting out to the park is an accomplishment. I haven't left the house in months. Sorry you weren't able to engage with family in the same way. I have that problem too. The old 'connection' with people has been lost on many levels. It's awful. And terribly sad. It sounds like if you were better before this last injection, then you'll likely be better again, maybe even before the next injection, but surely by the time your last injection wears off. Maybe that last straw just caused a bit of muscle strain in the camel's back... X-rays show it's not broken ; ) - Sincerely, Dr. Dan
 
paranoid android said:
It helps anhedonia and depression. Of course it has risks all stims do but ritalin isnt as tweaky as amphetamines atleast for me. Doesent affect my appetite or sleep as much
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Gottcha. Thank you for the info. We shall see. I definitely need to something. The status quo is not working at all.
 
Brendan Clark said:
I went to the park today with sister, brother-in-law, and young nieces. I remember how I used to play with my niece before this invega and how even though I tried playing it didn't generate that same kind of happiness it used to for me, like I was just going through the motions. If it was my old self nothing would have been able to stop the child inside me, but invega took that away. Will this ever return?? I was doing better in the end of June but this last dose was the straw that broke the camel's back it feels.
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That's how my third dose felt, everything went really bad after compared to the two loading doses. It's just now kind of starting to swing back the other way (at least with the once-a-day nicotine rush), but for the first 2-3 months you might feel really bad coming off the shots.

Hopefully your brain is young enough to recover; I know it feels really scary now because I'm in the same position. Just remember that most people don't really feel much improvement until at least 6 months.
 
Brendan Clark said:
How many doses did you get? Yeah you're lucky not to have gotten a blank mind, cause your stream of consciousness is just taken from you. It's much worse than the anhedonia...I've found people complaining of this but so far no one has said it gets better...Taking one day at a time feels like a mammoth task already as a day feels like whole year to me just now
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3 doses, the two loading doses and a final third one before I figured out the shots were the reason I felt awful.

Try to keep in mind that a lot of what you read will be disproportionately biased towards negative experiences and we don't always know the final outcomes. The data leans more towards full recovery from what I have seen, but it will just take a really long time in comparison to where you're at now.
 
Invegatorment said:
That's how my third dose felt, everything went really bad after compared to the two loading doses. It's just now kind of starting to swing back the other way (at least with the once-a-day nicotine rush), but for the first 2-3 months you might feel really bad coming off the shots.

Hopefully your brain is young enough to recover; I know it feels really scary now because I'm in the same position. Just remember that most people don't really feel much improvement until at least 6 months.
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I really hope so, I'm 30 so we'll see...
 
Invegatorment said:
3 doses, the two loading doses and a final third one before I figured out the shots were the reason I felt awful.

Try to keep in mind that a lot of what you read will be disproportionately biased towards negative experiences and we don't always know the final outcomes. The data leans more towards full recovery from what I have seen, but it will just take a really long time in comparison to where you're at now.
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The problem for me is I had more doses than most @ 9 doses so this puts my recovery at a great disadvantage I think, which really worries me, making me think this will go on forever, and that my dopaminergic pathways are ruined forever. I wonder if it's possible to get your dopamine and serotonin measured?....
 
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