Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v4

[Jabberwocky]

@HelpMeInvega Okay. Keep holding on. Quitting this invega shit seems to be a bumpy ride... Some months have gone by since my last injection. They were 75mg. I will check the exact date of my last injection online at some point, later in time, for informational purposes, to myself also. Some time ago i had itching of skin which i never have. Arms and legs mostly, but basically all over the body. And sometimes, late evening, when i try to sleep, i feel like i am swinging. Like my bed is a rocking chair.... uh... a rocking bed maybe. That would actually be kinda pleasant if it was due to drugs, but when it comes from quitting antipsychotic meds well... it is just strange. Breathing exercises and meditation helps, but then again, they always help.

You walk a LOT! That is great! Don't stop that. I walk a lot also, but not that much.

We can do this. Won't be easy, it really will not be easy. But yeah... nothing worth gaining never comes easy.

 

[loosewheelnut]

I'm off invega for over 7 months now and I'm starting to feel ok again but I still can't get drunk, high or enjoy nicotine and it's starting to freak me out a little bit. Does anybody know when these things came back to them?

 

[Jabberwocky]

I'm off invega for over 7 months now and I'm starting to feel ok again but I still can't get drunk, high or enjoy nicotine and it's starting to freak me out a little bit. Does anybody know when these things came back to them?

I am unable to help you with this... i was injected with invega for years and years... drank beer all the time, unless i was flat broke (happens often). Smoked like a fucking chimney, tobacco and weed. Got drunk, got high. I do not particularly enjoy nicotine but i need it, because i can't tolerate nicotine cravings. Strange stuff... i have quit all kinds of drugs in the past. Nicotine is here to stay. I can't quit tobacco. Tobacco will eventually quit me.

I am pleased to read that you are starting to feel ok. Thanks for sharing your experience. It encourages me also. That there might be... life. Even for me. I have been hellbent on self-destruction and my own death for decades, and during that process, i forgot that i was alive all the time. One day i will die. Then i have plenty of time to be a corpse. I want to try life, and living, before that day arrives.

 

[loosewheelnut]

I am unable to help you with this... i was injected with invega for years and years... drank beer all the time, unless i was flat broke (happens often). Smoked like a fucking chimney, tobacco and weed. Got drunk, got high. I do not particularly enjoy nicotine but i need it, because i can't tolerate nicotine cravings. Strange stuff... i have quit all kinds of drugs in the past. Nicotine is here to stay. I can't quit tobacco. Tobacco will eventually quit me.

I am pleased to read that you are starting to feel ok. Thanks for sharing your experience. It encourages me also. That there might be... life. Even for me. I have been hellbent on self-destruction and my own death for decades, and during that process, i forgot that i was alive all the time. One day i will die. Then i have plenty of time to be a corpse. I want to try life, and living, before that day arrives.

I hope you are able to get off invega soon and enjoy life again. I'm only now starting to feel my life feeling like normal again it was a hell of a 6 months for me and I'm just glad to be out of the worst of it. Yes I smoked like a chimney during the first 3 months of withdrawel but eventually the effect of nicotine went away along with getting high or drunk. Like benzodiazepine's don't even work for me it's scary as, I've had valium and it's like I took nothing at all. I get drunk but my vision doesn't even get blury, I'm like man wtf has this drug done to my brain.

 

[n3ophy7e]

I have been hellbent on self-destruction and my own death for decades, and during that process, i forgot that i was alive all the time. One day i will die. Then i have plenty of time to be a corpse. I want to try life, and living, before that day arrives.

Very eloquently written Japi, thank you. And I'm very glad to read the last part

 

[Jabberwocky]

I hope you are able to get off invega soon and enjoy life again. I'm only now starting to feel my life feeling like normal again it was a hell of a 6 months for me and I'm just glad to be out of the worst of it. Yes I smoked like a chimney during the first 3 months of withdrawel but eventually the effect of nicotine went away along with getting high or drunk. Like benzodiazepine's don't even work for me it's scary as, I've had valium and it's like I took nothing at all. I get drunk but my vision doesn't even get blury, I'm like man wtf has this drug done to my brain.

No? So you are telling me, that there is a possibility, that i might lose the effects of nicotine, alcohol, and cannabis as i am trying to quit invega? I drink coffee every morning also. Hey i can't have that. Worrying. I know that a human can live without nicotine, alcohol, cannabis and coffee but i am a special human snowflake and i need my safe space and my buzz of choice. However, i am still pleased that you are sharing this. But if that shit happens to me... Hard to write this but if those are the stakes, i will consider returning to get invega injections just to get my beer buzz and weed high back. I sometimes take some benzos... i have prescription. But uh... as my beer consumption is way over any healthy limits most of the time, i can't take them. Severe hangover, yes. insomnia, yes, anxiety, yes. But with beer, nope... some of you know, beer + benzos = strange stuff starts to happen all by itself and it is never positive, nor something to be proud of, or even remember to begin with.

 

[John78]

I'm off invega for over 7 months now and I'm starting to feel ok again but I still can't get drunk, high or enjoy nicotine and it's starting to freak me out a little bit. Does anybody know when these things came back to them?

Give it more time. Most people get intoxicated again within or at a year

 

[Jabberwocky]

Very eloquently written Japi, thank you. And I'm very glad to read the last part

Thank you. Very kind words. Actually i wanted to reply to you right away, just like i replied to another poster. Got some notice about server error. Try again later. It is "later" now, so i try. Just wanted to let you know, because you are one of the ones who run this place. Ummm..... most likely not an error regarding bluelight. Things have happened. I somehow managed to lose my power cord of my internet router. Do not ask, please, your guess is as good as mine. I noticed that i have a cell phone charger which fits into the router and stuff... I am online very much, but i do not know shit about technology. I think that it was not an error of bluelight, just an error of my mystical ways of trying to live from one day to another.

My writing style varies. It can be eloquent. It can be poetic. It can be overly self-ironic (coping mechanism) but i try to keep it civilized. Sometimes i fail that, then i cry later until i grow a little bit of balls and i come back to apologize. I consider you as my online friend now.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Give it more time. Most people get intoxicated again within or at a year

How does this work? Do you know how this works? I mean yeah... some substances block other substances, i do not know about that shit... But come on? Drink a liter of vodka and blaze a 1.5 gram blunt, something is destined to happen, no matter what? I mean... i can't take something, to make me completely immune to insane amounts of alcohol and cannabis? Something happens in the brain, i know. But it is alcohol and weed anyway, and it has to have some influence upon a person, no matter what, right?

 

[n3ophy7e]

Thank you. Very kind words. Actually i wanted to reply to you right away, just like i replied to another poster. Got some notice about server error. Try again later. It is "later" now, so i try. Just wanted to let you know, because you are one of the ones who run this place. Ummm..... most likely not an error regarding bluelight. Things have happened. I somehow managed to lose my power cord of my internet router. Do not ask, please, your guess is as good as mine. I noticed that i have a cell phone charger which fits into the router and stuff... I am online very much, but i do not know shit about technology. I think that it was not an error of bluelight, just an error of my mystical ways of trying to live from one day to another.

My writing style varies. It can be eloquent. It can be poetic. It can be overly self-ironic (coping mechanism) but i try to keep it civilized. Sometimes i fail that, then i cry later until i grow a little bit of balls and i come back to apologize. I consider you as my online friend now.

Me too mate Thanks!
I got that server error last night too, the admins might have been doing unplanned site maintenance or something?? I'm not sure. If you get any more error messages let me know.

 

[loosewheelnut]

How does this work? Do you know how this works? I mean yeah... some substances block other substances, i do not know about that shit... But come on? Drink a liter of vodka and blaze a 1.5 gram blunt, something is destined to happen, no matter what? I mean... i can't take something, to make me completely immune to insane amounts of alcohol and cannabis? Something happens in the brain, i know. But it is alcohol and weed anyway, and it has to have some influence upon a person, no matter what, right?

Take it from me. I could smoke joint after joint after joint and not feel a thing. I drink and I don't get dizzy or feel the mental effects of alcohol but I can still feel physically sick if I drink too much. Also cigarettes now taste like menthols and I don't get a nicotine buzz. How it works? AP's block/moderate dopamine and serotonin receptors so as soon as you come off AP's you will not be getting any dopamine or serotonin which is usually why people feel suicidal (I did). Also I've noticed this effect doesn't tend to happen with pill AP's and usually only happens when you take the injection which is much more potent. I'd do anything to get high right now it's freaking me out

 

[Jabberwocky]

Take it from me. I could smoke joint after joint after joint and not feel a thing. I drink and I don't get dizzy or feel the mental effects of alcohol but I can still feel physically sick if I drink too much. Also cigarettes now taste like menthols and I don't get a nicotine buzz. How it works? AP's block/moderate dopamine and serotonin receptors so as soon as you come off AP's you will not be getting any dopamine or serotonin which is usually why people feel suicidal (I did). Also I've noticed this effect doesn't tend to happen with pill AP's and usually only happens when you take the injection which is much more potent. I'd do anything to get high right now it's freaking me out

Shit. Thank you for your reply, i appreciate it. But, shit, anyway... Uh... i feel suicidal right now. No need to worry, no need to support me, this is basic shit, it comes and goes. I have access to a combo of three, it has been that way for years. I will not mention those three substances, due to harm reduction purposes.

Actually i am waiting for the prohibition to end... 1 hour, 10 minutes, i can buy beer. I do not know if it really is a prohibition by definition, but i call it as such to emphasize the madness of it all, and emphasize my frustration also. My home country is a turbocharged nanny state on steroids.

 

[loosewheelnut]

Shit. Thank you for your reply, i appreciate it. But, shit, anyway... Uh... i feel suicidal right now. No need to worry, no need to support me, this is basic shit, it comes and goes. I have access to a combo of three, it has been that way for years. I will not mention those three substances, due to harm reduction purposes.

Actually i am waiting for the prohibition to end... 1 hour, 10 minutes, i can buy beer. I do not know if it really is a prohibition by definition, but i call it as such to emphasize the madness of it all, and emphasize my frustration also. My home country is a turbocharged nanny state on steroids.

I hope things turn around for you soon, you just got to smash through the pain it's nothing short of a nightmare. I'm glad I'm past that stage but I feel for anyone going through it, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy

 

[Specified]

what do you say to get off the depot?

 

[HelpMeInvega]

Anyone have trouble speaking on Invega Sustenna? Like spitting out words? And free flowing conversation?

 

[btechlc]

this drug just sounds like it was a lazy band aid solution for judges and probation officers to force on people to basically just turn them off.

Sounds like a drug that would help a very small percentage of people that is getting used way way too much - mainly to keep people from getting high. Most people would be better served by shorting acting anti-psychotic drugs.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I hope things turn around for you soon, you just got to smash through the pain it's nothing short of a nightmare. I'm glad I'm past that stage but I feel for anyone going through it, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy

Why are you loosewheelnut? Sounds like you are mentally fucked or psychotic or like that. You are not. Thank you for all the support, however, it is not enough now. It is not your fault at all. Everyone on this forum has been very kind. But they are humans, and i am not too enthusiastic about humans. I might lose 2 American bulldog friends. They are also my therapists. I mean... No... Fuck this. I love them. I just fucking love those 2 dogs and my friend is separating from his woman and... Fuck them, i do not give a shit about their drama. I need those dogs. I need them.

 

[Gdvffh]

this drug just sounds like it was a lazy band aid solution for judges and probation officers to force on people to basically just turn them off.

Sounds like a drug that would help a very small percentage of people that is getting used way way too much - mainly to keep people from getting high. Most people would be better served by shorting acting anti-psychotic drugs.

just ban antipsychotic drugs in general, or at least stop the forcing the drugs on people. i literally got a community treatment order on me where there forcing me to take antipsychotics for 6 months. i cant even appeal it until 6 months is up. If i lose, they just renew it for another 6 months. FML

 

[loosewheelnut]

Why are you loosewheelnut? Sounds like you are mentally fucked or psychotic or like that. You are not. Thank you for all the support, however, it is not enough now. It is not your fault at all. Everyone on this forum has been very kind. But they are humans, and i am not too enthusiastic about humans. I might lose 2 American bulldog friends. They are also my therapists. I mean... No... Fuck this. I love them. I just fucking love those 2 dogs and my friend is separating from his woman and... Fuck them, i do not give a shit about their drama. I need those dogs. I need them.

Because I love car racing lol

 

[Jabberwocky]

Because I love car racing lol

Oh, now i understand. Kinda obvious now that i think of it... But i have mastered the art of not understanding obvious things. Thanks.