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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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I do not see how my neurotransmitter will resume a normal life, I lose hope, I do not see how they will unlock ..​
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I never take that crap again! It's now 2 months and 2 weeks, I hope you said true but in my opinion I doubt is the despair of the risperidone
 
@neuroleptique33 2 months and 2 weeks isnt long at all, it honestly takes around a year to get better so you still got a ways to go.

Saw someone mention how it list anhedonia as a sympton of the schizophrenia but not the medication, honestly if you wiki schizophreniayou will notice all the symptom were experencing are listed as "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia its ofcourse a lie and these negative symptoms are a result of the meds, these ppl are aware these meds are doing it to us, but they wont let integrity stand in the way of profit. There was also a study that showed that antipsychotics cause brain shrinkage, they were trying to claim that the "schizophrenia" cause brain shrinkage not the meds, although its defintely the meds as the brain shrinkage only occured to ppl who were taking antipstchotics. Its like i keep saying, psychiatry is simply a scam that tries to appear scientific but really is not.
 
awesome31311 said:
The biggest bullshit I keep seeing written on propaganda websites is that the anhedonia is a negative symptom of the illness and not the med. If that's the case then the medication is making the illness worse

Day 39/90

Laying in bed I close my eyes and I can very faintly recreate psychedelic imagery. It's weak but it's definitely there, I can float over clouds, rivers, mountains, and even see light geometric shapes. Visuals are coming back for sure. Not sure if it is just the ergine not having left my system yet, or if it is actually the work of time that I'm recovering. Could strongly have to do with the fact that I've been meditating as well

I can enjoy music to a higher extent, still can't go through 1 hour long albums like I used to be able to, the music I listen to is more lyrics based, and I can feel pleasures such as eating food and sex. I'm still drowsy and have issues going to sleep when I want to (Invega induced insomnia). The shrink wanted me on klonopin but I refused, because this will go away when the invega does.

Short term memory is kind of muddled up at the moment, definitely the effect of the ergine tea. Considering how cabergoline is an ergot derivative, it could explain why ergine (for me anyways) cancelled the sexual side effects of aripiprazole completely.

My next trip is scheduled for late February (spring break). This will be 91 days after my last injection and I hope to have a more intense trip then.

The lack of documentation regarding these things is appalling but that's why I contribute to this forum.

Quora recently deleted one of my questions, when I asked whether Artane (Trihexyphenidyl) increases dopamine. It is unfortunate, but I bring that question here instead in hopes that someone may know.
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Gdvffh said:
@neuroleptique33 2 months and 2 weeks isnt long at all, it honestly takes around a year to get better so you still got a ways to go.

Saw someone mention how it list anhedonia as a sympton of the schizophrenia but not the medication, honestly if you wiki schizophreniayou will notice all the symptom were experencing are listed as "negative symptoms" of schizophrenia its ofcourse a lie and these negative symptoms are a result of the meds, these ppl are aware these meds are doing it to us, but they wont let integrity stand in the way of profit. There was also a study that showed that antipsychotics cause brain shrinkage, they were trying to claim that the "schizophrenia" cause brain shrinkage not the meds, although its defintely the meds as the brain shrinkage only occured to ppl who were taking antipstchotics. Its like i keep saying, psychiatry is simply a scam that tries to appear scientific but really is not.
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Exactly! This is what I and thousand of other Users in this ultra long thread or other
forums say every fucking year.

It is just a "myth" that the negative
symptoms in the form of anhedonia (can feel neither good nor bad emotions) are the
accompanying symptoms of a Psychosis.
Not to be confused with depression (where you still have the sad emotions).

I never said we didn't have positive symptoms. They had most of us!

But this mistake is a misinformation that has been included in the official books of
the ICD-10 (International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems) by
wrong misinterpretation of interviewing and observing patients in the past.



The psychiatrists don't do this on purpose. They're just too stupid+ stubborn.
When we're all healed at some point, we should join forces and do some kind of education. It sounds easier than it is.

But otherwise this mistake will remain standing in the books forever.
Medicine is constantly in development (like any other scientific discipline) as long as mankind still exists and can do research.


They try to find new + better therapies for e.g. cancer, Alzheimer,... every day.
To develop new drugs. To develop new surgical methods.


Doctors can only write symptoms in a diagnostic book that they observe in other patients they treat.

Very few doctors have ever had a disease like this themselves: Psychosis or something like that.
That is why they see when a patient with psychosis comes to them, that he is dejected and lacking energy or something similar.
And write it as negative symptoms and anhedonia in the test results (Studies, which came in modern Medicine Books).

But it's not that. During psychosis, most of us can still feel negative emotions, maybe even more than normal, maybe 130%.
(Then it's not anhedonia anymore, at most depression).
But we just look like that on the outside.

We keep telling the doctors. But they are so arrogant and believe that their observation of our external effects counts more than our own statement that anhedonia and depression are two different things. And negative symptoms are first caused by neurological drugs.
So the doctors think that they know better what is going on in our heads than we do (as if they could read thoughts) but we ourselves are too naive to observe ourselves).



And then comes the dilemma:
Through the neuroleptics really ALL our emotions are blocked plus cognitive abilities (concentration).

And they say it's something from the psychosis before. Although it came through the neuroleptics.

But our brain power is now so reduced that we can defend ourselves verbally against the doctors and can't defend ourselves by doing our own research and making it intelligible public.

Life still writes the best scripts.



Holy shit! ) :) :(

only an empty desperate laugh.

What a mad world!






Maybe similar to this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroleptic-induced_deficit_syndrome
 
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Empty1128 said:
Welcome Sav91, I'm italian as well, I don't think it is so easy since the drug is bound to the muscle tissue, I'm nine months and a half off and I still don't have emotions/feelings and my libido is almost non existent, I'm basically doing the same thing you are doing, I'm not fasting but eating really low calories to lose all the fat I gained and bring my body fat to low percentage. I don't understand why my arm still hurts, maybe the drug slowly gets released while the 'palmitate' stays in the muscle indefinitely?
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no Empty1128, the palmitate is metabolized by the body. It is strange that you still hurt your arm It scares me what you tell me, I did 7 injections, how many did you do?
 
What I am impressed with is that psychiatrists know better than we do what we have when we take ourselves the drugs should explain to me..
It's been three months that I've been like this and 2 months and 2 weeks after the last injection.. It's already too long for me
 
@Neuroleptique33 I understand you. I have thought the same thing in this early stage. And I still think that it is too long. But you will reach a point where it will be easier to deal with it. I still have worries and often times ask myself if it's ever gonna be like it was, but I don't try to fight against my current condition anymore. It is more bareable the more time passes. I just hope that I'm gonna be the same again. I miss myself very much. And I still think that I am probably gonna end my life when it stays like that after a year. It is very hard to imagine how your brain can reverse itself to the preinvega state and I still have a hard time believing it. Psychiatrist know excactly what these drugs do and they are very aware of it. They like to be in a position where they have control over a human being. At least they think that they have, when in fact it's not their real power, it's the drugs controlling us. When I critisized the drugs they told me that my sickness is "coming back", so they really know what they are doing, they are playing a "game" and play with lives of other people.
 
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2xqRKcfv802ItmCiCm-QYg please if someone can get in touch with this doctor who is from the US it would be great to know if it can help with our condition. He has a very special and unique technique, that no other doctor uses. He actually makes tests to see what toxins there are in the brain tissue and organs and creates an individual frequency protocl treatement to get rid of these toxins. He has successfully treated people with parkinson's disease, MS, anxiety, depression etc. I have never seen anything like this before. If someone could get in touch with him from the US and even meet him and make a treatment to see if it helps us, we would at least know if there is a solution to get rid of this bullshit from our body.
 
If someone could call him in his office and at least ask him questions it would be greatly appreciated. Please look at some of his videos first to get an understanding of his knowledge and how he works so that you have a little idea. And then call him on 954-370-3100 to ask question and explain your situation. He is the FIRST person and source online I have seen so far who really knows what health is all about, how the brain really works, how the body works and why specific symptoms are really being caused. He also knows that erectile dysfunction is not just about testosteron, parkinsons is not just about dopamine, but it is about the source of the problem. About the hidden causes of the brain not producing these chemicals and that is the toxins, viruses, parasites and bacteria in the tissues all over the body. He can find toxins in specific earas of the body and works with you to get them removed through treaments and remedies. He believes that you can get rid of ANY of your problems you have. How powerful of a doctor to say and there are a lot of testimonials on his channel. Please someone call or meet him just to see what he says about our condition. And see if you can get a treatment. People from all over the world are being treated by him successfully. If we can have just one person with our condition to get there and be treated successfully, I would fly to the US especially for that! That's how much I believe in this man. And it takes a lot to convince me of something. You will know that he talks the truth when you look at his videos. He believes in getting rid of what's causing the problem and not like every other doctor who believe in taking something that fixes a problem they don't even know what's the cause of. And I know this fact for years. I really resonate with this man. Please let me know if someone is calling him, or I will do it myself from Switzerland.
 
One stablon 12.5 mg in the morning and one pacitane 2mg in the night that's it and vitamin tablets and that's it with in few days maximum with in three to four day all the problem caused due to invega sustenna will be reversed back to normal do not try any thing else and waste your time and do not trust psychiatrists and waste your time and am really much happy with these tablets and even if you have taken invega before few weeks not a problem just stop taking the injection while your on this tabs and I bet you would be good for sure
 
@Empty1128 If you would look at his videos, you would know, that he actually knows that these drugs are causing the problem. His treatments are made to get rid of all the bad stuff in the body's and brain's tissues (including muscle tissue). It doesn't cost anything to call and explain our condition. He know about serotonin, dopamine, gaba and how they work. He used to study neurology as well and doesn't believe in the conventional doctors and how they work. He knows that vaccine toxins and toxins of the drugs (all kinds of drugs including antidepressants, muscle relaxer, epilepsy and I'm sure he knows about antipsychotics as well if he knows about these other psych drugs) So he will know that our condition is caused due to the drug. And his treatments are made to get rid of these drugs and toxins that are causing the symptoms. So if someone could call him to ask him about his treatments, how it works, what he really does and explain what our symptoms are and if he can help get rid of this drug and how he would do it.
 
Sharvansara said:
One stablon 12.5 mg in the morning and one pacitane 2mg in the night that's it and vitamin tablets and that's it with in few days maximum with in three to four day all the problem caused due to invega sustenna will be reversed back to normal do not try any thing else and waste your time and do not trust psychiatrists and waste your time and am really much happy with these tablets and even if you have taken invega before few weeks not a problem just stop taking the injection while your on this tabs and I bet you would be good for sure
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Bullshit! Stop giving people false hope by telling them their problems can be solved within days of taking another poison. It's not about putting something into your body and your body will miraculously reverse a damage that has been going on for months. That's not the way the body works. First of all you have to try to get rid of what's causing the problem. And like we all know, it is the poison that's causing it. You can help the body get rid of it with eating healthy, drinking lots of water and taking detoxifying natural substances. Another problem we have is that the processes in our bodies have to start to work properly again. The communication of the brain with all our cells and organs and hormons has to start working. So as long as our brain is in the condition it is right now the whole detoxifying process iss slowed down. The body is no longer able to protect itself to the same degree. The immune system is impacted. The absorbtion of nutrients is impacted. The thyroid. The kidneys and liver have been damaged. It's not only about the fucking dopamine and serotonin. It's about every process in our body. Every neuron in our brain is connected to one cell in our body. It normally communicates constantly. That's why psych drugs cause mitochondrial damage. So if a neuron is occupied by a toxin, whether it's invega or the other bullshit you're promoting, to neuron to cell communication is impacted. It's about helping the body getting to it's natural state. And you cannot do that through taking other shit. This won't "cure" anything. Your goal has to be to get rid of the toxic substance. That's why I am suggesting this doctor. His treatments are all about removing the causes, which means every toxin (whatever it is from food, drugs, pharmacutical etc.), bacteria, virus, parasite in your body. So your body can breathe again and start doing its work again. We need the function of our organs that clean us from the toxins to work better, so that we can get rid of it faster. One of the reasons that this takes so long is that our body has reached a degree of toxicity where it has become unable to work as fast as it used to. It has to protect the cells, it has to get rid of invega, it has to digest, regulate blood pressure and blablabla. This has all been impacted and it cannot do its work that well. If you don't wanna get in touch with this doctor, then I will find another way. I have a friend that will call there. @Empty You are not really willing to try ANYTHING, otherwise you wouldn't refuse my suggestion. So you guys take your stupid drugs and damage your body even more. I'm glad it is not my body. Some people never learn from their mistakes....
 
Empty1128 said:
The fact is we have two problems at once, a drug stored in our muscle/fat tissue, slowly releasing over the months and a brain working in "antipsychotics" mode, maybe somebody could find a way to make the brain work properly again but only when there is no more drug.

This means somebody could find a cure for people like Germanbackyard, who only took pills but I believe nobody can help people who still have a depot stored in their body.

The only thing I can think to help us would be a scan on the injection site followed by some kind of surgery, but let's be honest nobody would even listen us, they would simply think we are batshit crazy.

Summarazing: in my opinion only time can help us.
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I think there are 3 types of suffering people here.


1.) People, who took it as pill and have symptoms many years after last taking.

2.) People, who got an injection and have symptoms month after last injection

3.) People, who got Injection, but have symptoms many years (like Rosi = 2 years, or a guy on Youtube 9 years)

(or you were only subtly hinting that i was only imagining my symptoms and should go to another forum because only "injection"-people actually have a real harm.)



Sry. But I don't think it's just because of the physics that people suffer because "somewhere" in the body there's still substance in it and after several years the symptoms are still the same.

Fresh after the injection all substances have a half-life. (This makes still sense).
And maybe: More injections = longer time.
Higher concentration = longer time

But not many many many years. If the substance is really stored in the tissue and it continues to release into the body and blood, the negative effect must become less pronounced over time.

(Just because the quantitative amount goes less, when the deposits of the substance are continue to released. Its just pure physic).

After last injection the stuff cant produce new stuff of itselfs.

The quantity must decrease with time. And with it the symptoms.






There's an unknown mechanism in the cells, which is in somes peoples bodys (cells) functional and in other bodys NOT:
(maybe a greater expression of a particular gene, enzyme or the like)

-which immediately heals everything in people a few months after the last treatment

or

-that in some people an upregulation is already triggered during the chemical treatment.

or

-who still does not undo the changes for some people long after the last treatment






And no one knows what this "magic" mechanism is.
 
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Whether we wish it or not there are victims it is ind?gniable for those who never return, emotions, their thoughts etc.. It's a matter of luck to my taste
 
Im still taking buspirone which is also a D2 antagonist with no noticable side effect, i still wake up early early in the morning like i used to with Xeplion injections and my mind is in a similar state like with invega, it wouldnt suprise me to see buspirone in higher doses becoming a future solution for psychosis.

I am absolutely certain this is a real and safe plan for treatment.

I read that post about toxins in the brain,snorting some quality vitamin could hit your brain with antioxidants, my strength has also come back up to normal i can do 3 sets of 140kg dumbell press in 10 minutes (september 3 last injection), also buspirone improves sexual function.

I need to see a psychiatrist with me being dosed on buspirone, would he think i am cured the same way if i was taking some antipsychotic. Here disabillity besides welfare also gives you 80% of your deceased parent pension which is alot of money for me i cant work my way to that kind of money anyway.

Do you guys wanna create a skype group chat ? we could get to know each other
 
@InvegaIsMurder We already have a skype group chat. How long have you been off the drug? Why do you take buspirone?
 
Yeshuah said:
@InvegaIsMurder We already have a skype group chat. How long have you been off the drug? Why do you take buspirone?
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i had my last injection september 3, been on buspirone for 1 month now cause of xeplion and tavor leaving me with a lot of nerves and panic attacks, anxiety and most of my thoughts have faded now i used to have severe panic attacks now i feel fine.

i work all day so i havent been following the thread so much but my searching for solutions stopped with buspirone i feel like thats the best i could get as far medicine goes, i am going to apply for disabillity welfare soon
 
Guys, let's not have heated arguments. We're all trying to heal here.

There is no magic pill which will remove invegas effects in a matter of days. It will be a year long struggle.

Day 40/90

I took about 900mg of melatonin and 900mg of St John's Wort before going to sleep. Big mistake. I slept through about sixteen hours of my day and have ruined my sleep cycles; two days before my classes start
 
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