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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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I think I have an scientific explanation as to what happened to us and why we have the anhedonia, apathy, lack of emotion and lack of being able feel pleasure situation.
So from my understanding these drugs bind to our receptors and prevent dopamine from being released. Our brain is rejecting this drug and is opposing thr blockade. As a result the brain is trying to release dopamine even though none is being released. It keeps trying to release dopamine because it's supposed to. Eventually the receptors simply clip out and die out from trying to release too much dopamine. It's possible some of us will never be the same again, because the receptors have died. If you do revert. It means the receptors didn't die and it just needed time to normalize. However I unfortunately think I'm one of the ones who had dead receptors. When I was on the drug I would be getting panic attacks no reasons, like I wasn't panicky. That was a result I believe now from my brain being in distress from the drug. Any of u guys were getting panic attacks/anxiety on it?

If you read online about schizophrenia, it talks about negative symptoms of lack of empathy lack of emotion etc, however this is all a result of dopamine. I'm pretty sure the negative symptoms of schizophrenia are not a result of the illness, but a result of the antipsychotic drugs.

When ppl take a ton of cocaine, they blow out there receptors from releasing top much dopamine, and as a result they experience these negative symptoms that we are experiencing.

It's possible schizophrenia can result on negative symptoms. But that does not really make any sense to me from a scientific point of view and I do believe it's the antipsychotics. When you ask a psychiatrist aboutit. They just say it's part of the illness, but they don't explain why it is happening. No scientific reasoning or anything is given, it's just a cop out
 
Hi guys!
Long time no see.
My anorgasmia is getting better. I have something like a retarded orgasm when I ejaculate. But hey its something.
No Watery semen but no libido also. And erectile dysfunction gone. full hard ons.
 
Does anyone know how to contact the administrator? Thanks eduardorosarios.. I think we get the jizz of it.
 
paranoid android said:
Paliperidone is not the enemy either it's the way i have seen it prescribed to some people that's the problem. ..

Going by what i have read here in this thread for some reason alot of people seem to be getting the long acting IM form of Paliperidone Invega Sustenna instead of just the extended release version of Invega. The only time i have seen people get Depot injections of anti-psychotics is when they are seriously mentally ill and refuse to take their pills as most doctors i know prefer the oral version of Anti-psychotics as it's much easier to deal with side effects that last only a day or so as opposed to a good month. There really is no other reason to prescribe a long acting injection form of Invega or any other anti-psychotic as the pills work just fine and are less risky. Why don't they have a instant release form of Paliperidone does anyone know?

This leads me to believe that either 1. Alot of people on Invega Sustenna have tried other Anti-Psychotics and actually need them but refuse to take them. I am not up on the laws in the US but in Canada they can't just drug you without your consent if you are a outpatient i think they need a court order and because the doctor feels like putting you on this med would not be a good enough reason. In patient is a different matter of course. 2. It's alot easier to drug people against their will stateside and Psychiatrists there are lazy bastards who give out depot injections instead of having to work with the patient to find the right dose and the right medication.
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I agree with you, it is very unfortunate circumstances we all find ourselves here, who I believe are more or less misdiagnosed by the lazy pharmacists. And likewise, It may be a great drug for some high percent of people, but we are the victims and atleast a hundred of us should be capable of a lawsuit because we understand that Invega is not just an enemy, but a destroyer of worlds for morbidly prolonged time frames. Were talking about a persons brain, and we have Drs in institutions Drugging us with a 10 month depot poison claiming its only 1 month, as a go-to-answer for anyone they think necessary, that just disgusts me. Its very similar to the Dr who had invented the lobotomy and made tons of money handicapping thousands of people as the solution. Just because some company on the summit creates this syrum said it was the cure. But its a poison not a cure, and should come with a cure if nothing else, but ideally ban the poison until a less devastatingly long one is invented. Whether it takes more Pharmacology funded by the government, or needs to be banned completely, but an answer needs to be provided, and it will be.
 
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Joey2358 said:
I just saw the post and it makes me happy to see that people have fully recovered from this poison.... I think we all need to get together and sue Janssens for everything they got..... Their needs to be some cure they have to speed up the recovery.... On YouTube their is a man who has never healed after 11 years..... It scares me to know that it might be permanent for some.... I can't work out or run no more because my body is to weak.... Can you work out? Also, do you get a natural erection without having to touch you penis? Does libido and sex drive back to normal?
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Im 10 months off it and i stiil cant get an erection, when i manipulate it works but doesnt sustain an intercourse. I feel horrible. Im also constipated wich i think makes it worst to get the poison out of my system
 
Tomorrow it will be 5 months for me, I still don't get the erections I used to pre-Invega, my brain is not as sharp and I'm tired all the time. I'm being realistic I don't think it's possible for people to go back to exactly how they used to be I think Invega causes permanent changes to everybody and makes docile passive creatures who will conform. I used to have a lot of passion and could get angry but I have lost all that along with willpower and motivation, different day same shit. I'm hoping on the 8 month mark but I doubt that will substantially change me to thinking wow I can feel it
 
@Invega hater, you should try a program that can help detoxify it.... I think it's possible.... There have been people that have detoxify vaccines..... I hear in Arizona Alternative to meds has helped people fully recovered... But then again that sounds to good to be true.
 
Invegaman said:
Tomorrow it will be 5 months for me, I still don't get the erections I used to pre-Invega, my brain is not as sharp and I'm tired all the time. I'm being realistic I don't think it's possible for people to go back to exactly how they used to be I think Invega causes permanent changes to everybody and makes docile passive creatures who will conform. I used to have a lot of passion and could get angry but I have lost all that along with willpower and motivation, different day same shit. I'm hoping on the 8 month mark but I doubt that will substantially change me to thinking wow I can feel it
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Invegaman how are your orgasms? it has been 5 months for me too. theyre a dumbed down version of what it used to be. not very intense.
 
ps: I also cant cry, get angry dont have any willpower or motivation and libido as well, but im trying to quit smoking, at least thats something.
 
@Gdvffh You make some good points. I'm gunna order my CES machine cause it may be the only hope at reviving the receptors. I do belive we will all eventually recover but maybe not all as lucky as Decisive at 10 months. It is scary though to consider they could be dead for good. The brain is very beautiful and complex and I belive it has more to do with the chemicals themselves which still linger. Eventually these will leave our system. That's a fact. Once that happens I would be surprised if the effects are permanent when all other factors are natural with good health. We should exercise when we can that much true.. Sweat in the sun when you can. Hikes, surfing, etc. Surfing isn't much of a chore cuz its so fun that you don't realize how much exercise your getting.

@iNVEGUASER iNDEED, KNOWLEDGE IS POWER I will be surprised if I get completely back to feeling but if I could exercise again and feel that energy atleast I will feel so much more complete. I hope theres no way for the brain to forget how to generate that energy to exercise, like the libido.

@AbleArcher Yes the severe insomnia is unreal and I think it relates to Gdvffh's point about the panic attacks/ anxiety. It is so much more than anxiety, like out of body experience of complete and utter unrest that becomes extremely miserable and you never get to escape it losing your breath gasping for air which wakes you up because when you sleep you forget how to breath too. Mine lasted for the first whole month. I sleep pretty normally now, it all gets much better and tolerable past month 6 or so, but not close to what it could be. Weed helps with the anhedonia but adds to the laziness.

@Invegaman Ya I think the same thing and I'm on month 7, although it has gotten better since month 5. It gets better but ever so slowly. Its nice to be optimistic and the expectation for fun when being with friends or family work or cool places like camping, increase the brain activity of adapting and evolving by our own means of growth. But I truly think the brain will regenerate these abilities but it will be a longer time frame like 3 years without consistent exercise. I used to be somewhat of a runner and loved to sweat a ton and exercise so I will be really bummed if that possibility never comes back. I bet you Narshe has recovered, I'm gunna ask admin about him cuz his story is important for all of us.
 
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@eduardo

My orgasms are weak, I don't get the full pleasure that I used too. My erections are a lot weaker also.

@phuckinvegga

I personally believe Invega is too potent to totally recover from without repercussions. It must be one of the worst drugs on earth. Invega trinza would be even worse that's the 3 month version of sustenna. I just think 5 months without improvement is unacceptable for any type of drug full stop.
 
@Invegaman

Yes you're right. The human body and brain is much like a plant. And its hard to believe that a plant as outrselves can recover from this devastating blow. The most we can hope for is to ask nature itself for recovery, spend times with the planet earth we belong to and guide our mental consciousness to bridge the gaps between reality and our brains as much we can while without these receptors. It could be a situation where our mentality goverens their regrowth and we might need to pretend we have our abilities back to create a demand for them, like force forgetting as a survival instinct; it will be better to experience day to day life anyway. Once you get to a point where you don't think of it as much you'll see what I'm saying. around month 7 for me. Also the more you refrain from masturbation the better, (early on it might be good for eliminating Invega from your system), idk for sure about it, but Egyptians saw it as spiritual energy that could go towards other powers such as the mental chakras' for possible regrowth. Also Alkaline water is supposed to be good for the pineal gland.

I dunno. It is so potent tho, definitely is the worst drug on Earth, and undoubtedly the most serious crime you can commit. And something has to happen about it. A lawsuit will happen but I think we all need to combine the effort.
 
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Invega hater said:
Im 10 months off it and i stiil cant get an erection, when i manipulate it works but doesnt sustain an intercourse. I feel horrible. Im also constipated wich i think makes it worst to get the poison out of my system
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Give it 2 more months.... I was talking to a marine who knew someone who got a different injection and said it took 3 years to fully heal from the shot.... Invega from what I heard from Janssens has 25-49 day half life which is 7 to 8. Multiply 49 by 8 that's 392 days it takes to get out of the system.... Has anyone fully recovered their erections? I hope so.
 
Joey2358 said:
Give it 2 more months.... I was talking to a marine who knew someone who got a different injection and said it took 3 years to fully heal from the shot.... Invega from what I heard from Janssens has 25-49 day half life which is 7 to 8. Multiply 49 by 8 that's 392 days it takes to get out of the system.... Has anyone fully recovered their erections? I hope so.
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i wake up with hard-ones everyday man. And I can easily get erections to have sex with my gf. I'm a few days away from being 10months off and I've been boning regularly since month 6
 
Look into getting some test boosters also. I started taking two different ones recently and have been experiencing a lot of euphoria, happiness, motivation and energy. They make me feel great. So maybe Invega causes test levels to drop in some people? I'm not sure, but I at do know that pre-Invega I never seemed to have any issues with my testosterone levels.
 
@Koz26, what scares is someone on this site by the name of Aiden never fully recovered and he's been off it for 2 years.... I called Janssens and they said it takes 343 to 393 to fully come out of the system... Your almost there.
 
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