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Mental Health Coming Off Invega Sustenna (Paliperidone) v.2

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Have you thought a detox.... Their are natural sites from what I hear that can fully get Invega Sustenna out of the system.... It's really expensive though..... Also, in 9 to 10 months how much did you loose... They say Invega gets stored in fat.
 
Are you asking me how much fat I've lost? I can't put a number on it cause I don't know. I was 185 when I got the injection 9 1/2 months ago. At this weight I was pretty muscular and had a six pack. 8 months after the shot I had gone up to 195, but it looked like I had gained a lot more. My six pack had turned into a gut with zero definition in my core muscles, obliques or abs. Also, I Lost a shit load of muscle. Went from being able to do like 70-80 push-ups in a row to only being able to do like 35, 40 tops.

Now I'm weighing 202 so technically I've gained weight. But that's cause I started building my muscle back up again. I did lose a lot of fat around my stomach and chest though. I almost have my six pack pack and I've only been working out with intensity for about 6 1/2 weeks now. So the fat is coming off quicker than it would have pre-Invega, or at least it seems to be that way. My motivation for getting a six pack used to be for aesthetics. Now I want to get one so I know for damn sure there's no where for Bitch ass Invega to run and hide, if that motherfucker is still lingering around that is.
 
Also, imo you should chill on the whole "let's start a violent movement" thing. I studied political science too. I also have a degree in Psych and History. Back in the day would it work? Maybe. Nowadays we'd have to take a more intellectual approach.
 
Koz26 said:
I doubt that country would be as great as you think it'd be. Psychiatric meds help a lot of people. Many of whom I know personally. And certain psychiatric meds actually help me as well. Invega Sustenna is the enemy here, not all psychiatric meds in general. I'm sure you would find tons of people who would share your perspective, myself included, on why Invega Sustenna should be taken off the market. But as soon as the sentiment that all psych meds are bad is brought up then the argument would most likely become null and void.
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Paliperidone is not the enemy either it's the way i have seen it prescribed to some people that's the problem. If Paliperidone was the poison some make it out to be here then Risperidone would have caused the same problems as Paliperidone is it's main and only active metabolite. A chemical is neither good nor evil it just is. Even though it's pretty new on the market and expensive i do know a few people that have had good luck with Paliperidone in treating Bipolar disorder without getting hit with many side effects. It has the same side effect profile as Risperidone except patients on Invega Sustenna had to use less Anti-Cholinergic medications to control side effects then those on Risperdal Consta. It was found to be slightly less effective then Risperdal Consta for some reason though. They also have the same receptor binding profile except Paliperidone has less affinity for the D4 receptor then Risperidone so they are pretty much interchangeable.

Going by what i have read here in this thread for some reason alot of people seem to be getting the long acting IM form of Paliperidone Invega Sustenna instead of just the extended release version of Invega. The only time i have seen people get Depot injections of anti-psychotics is when they are seriously mentally ill and refuse to take their pills as most doctors i know prefer the oral version of Anti-psychotics as it's much easier to deal with side effects that last only a day or so as opposed to a good month. There really is no other reason to prescribe a long acting injection form of Invega or any other anti-psychotic as the pills work just fine and are less risky. Why don't they have a instant release form of Paliperidone does anyone know?

This leads me to believe that either 1. Alot of people on Invega Sustenna have tried other Anti-Psychotics and actually need them but refuse to take them. I am not up on the laws in the US but in Canada they can't just drug you without your consent if you are a outpatient i think they need a court order and because the doctor feels like putting you on this med would not be a good enough reason. In patient is a different matter of course. 2. It's alot easier to drug people against their will stateside and Psychiatrists there are lazy bastards who give out depot injections instead of having to work with the patient to find the right dose and the right medication.

Joey2358 said:
Hi guys sorry to bother you guys.

i called 866 977 7244. And they said their is a natural cleansing that can fully get Invega Sustenna out of the system.... If you get the book "clear body clear mind" theirs natural ways to get Invega fully out of the system..... Invega can be stored in fat which is a problem.... Fat is almost impossible to eliminate the drug.... Check it out guys.
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That sounds like a scam if there ever was one. Paliperidone is water soluble and only has a half life of 23 hours. So with some Cranberry juice and extra water your body will clear it out of your system faster if a day is not quick enough for you.
 
Joey2358 said:
Please guys, if you know someone, have them join the cause..... Janssens needs to be put out of business.....

sometimes in life, violence is the only option.
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If you want to talk Politics take it to CE&P as this is a mental health forum. Also your logic there is more then abit flawed to say the least.
 
I didn't mean to make palperidone itself out to be the enemy. I think the pills can be useful in the short-term. It's the long-lasting shot that I have a problem with. And I don't have a problem with a shot lasting a month. I think a months worth of AP use for someone who had a severe psychotic break is quite reasonable. It's the fact that Invega Sustenna is supposed to last one month but clearly affects people for wayyy longer than that which makes me feel as though it should be taken off the market. Cause there's definitely something wrong with a drug when your doctor tells you it's supposed to last one month and all of these people from around the world are suffering several months, sometimes years later...

As I said in previous posts, I'm prescribed Adderall for ADHD. My doctor has me take a 30mg XR at 8am and then she prescribes me a 20mg IR to take at 4pm because she says that's around when the 30mg XR should typically wear off....somewhere in the 8-12 hr range. If I don't take my Adderall at 4pm, the one I took at 8am wears off and I get kinda tired and a bit lethargic. The ADHD starts to kick back in. I don't stay laser focused for a week off of a pill that is supposed to help for 8-12hrs. So people shouldn't suffer for close to a year, sometimes longer, from a shot that is only supposed to last 1 month. Medicine should last as long as the manufacturers, doctors, and research say it should last. Otherwise it shouldn't be on the market and administered to patients.

Thats the point I was trying to make. Not that palperidone itself is a terrible drug with no beneficial uses.
 
Please stop spamming the page with that number. You already put it up so that's enough - Paranoid android

try it out guys.... Invega Sustenna injection half life is 25-49 days so that's around 10 months to a year..... I think we both need to find a detox program to get this posin out... If any of you guys know of a detox place, write on this page..... I think detox places can fully get the drug out of the system.... Also, I think they do blood work to see if it's in the system.
 
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@paranoid android.... I was referring to Invega Sustenna... That has a half of 25-49 days which is like 10 months to a year to fully get out of the system.
 
@Joey

Trust me, I know how frustrating it is trying to get this drug out of your system because it lasts so long. But it's suspended in your muscle and slowly released throughout the day, each and every day, until there is no more of the drug left in your deltoid, or wherever it was injected. So, the problem with quicker elimination of palperidone from your system is that you can't really get it out of your muscle any faster. Your best bet is to ensure that you don't put on a lot of fat. That way there is nowhere for Invega to be stored and then it won't be able to stay in your body for as long. Just try your best to eat a healthy diet and get a little bit of exercise every day. I have been noticing that the more fat I lose, the better I feel. This might not have anything to do with the Invega. It could simply be that as my physical health improves my mental health also improves. But it will only help to try to keep your physical health good while your mental health recovers. Keep your head up buddy.
 
Okay guys this is a list of supplements that work well against adehonia, negative symptoms and sexual dysfunction.

Most of these substances are neuroprotective antioxidants and many of them also raise the levels of neurotransmitters like dopamine in the brain. They are all supplements and have few or no side effects.

1. N-Acetycysteine
2. Sarcosine
3. Eicosapentaenoic acid (Omega 3)
4. Creatine
5. S-Adenosylmethionine (SAMe)
6. Zink
7.Citocoline
8. Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD)
9. Coenzyme Q10
10. Ginkgo Bibloa
11. Panax Ginseng
12. Methylfolate
13. Inositol
14. L-Theanine
15. Rhodiola
16. Acetyl-L-Carnitine


I take all of these supplements every day. The main reason I take them is for my depression but also because most of them enhance cognition. My IQ has gone up eight points since starting these supplements and my adehonia and depression have improved considerably.

If anyone is interested in trying these supplements I recommend doing some research on the supplements first and ask your doctor just to make sure its safe to take. From the reasearch I've done though I don't think any of them have any pharmacokinetic interactions with Invega. Considering that many of them have strong evidence for treatment resistant depression I think they are worth a try, especially if one is contemplating suicide.



 
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swisscurrie said:
Okay guys this is a list of supplements that work well against adehonia, negative symptoms and sexual dysfunction.

Most of these substances are neuroprotective antioxidants and many of them also raise the levels of neurotransmitters like dopamine in the brain. They are all supplements and have few or no side effects.

1. N-Acetycysteine
2. Sarcosine
3. Eicosapentaenoic acid (Omega 3)
4. Creatine
5. S-Adenosylmethionine (SAMe)
6. Zink
7.Citocoline
8. Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD)
9. Coenzyme Q10
10. Ginkgo Bibloa
11. Panax Ginseng
12. Methylfolate


I take all of these supplements every day. The main reason I take them is for my depression but also because most of them enhance cognition. My IQ has gone up eight points since starting these supplements and my adehonia and depression have improved considerably.

If anyone is interested in trying these supplements I recommend doing some research on the supplements first and ask your doctor just to make sure its safe to take. From the reasearch I've done though I don't think any of them have any pharmacokinetic interactions with Invega.
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Take some creatine and make all kindz of muscle gainz. ALL KINDZZZ
 
I used to take a lot of creatine. Does more than just muscle gains. Some people say it just adds water weight. Bullshit. The stuff is one of my favorite supplements. I'm still feeling the gains from it even though I haven't taken it in 5 years almost.
 
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iridescentblack said:
I used to take a lot of creatine. Does more than just muscle gains. Some people say it just adds water weight. Bullshit. The stuff is one of my favorite supplements. I'm still feeling the gains from it even though I haven't taken it in 5 years almost.
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Creatine increases intracellular water weight which makes your muscles look fuller and increases ATP synthesis which allows you to workout for longer periods of time and do more reps when you're lifting. Sadly, I can't take it cause it also skyrockets dht levels which makes my hair start to thin. If I'm gonna lose my hair to take a supplement, might as well just use real gear and then make some serious gains. Not gonna waste my precious hair on creatine even though it's one of the best otc bodybuilding supplements on the market.
 
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Alcohol weed n drugs alike are the main problem in my pov. Not to mention almost everyone in this life is a number to ruling countrys. Debtslaves so to speak. Not freethinking people rather idiotik sheeps to the slaughter. Then if one gets frustrated ending with anger problem or living alone like everyone is then theres ur problem. So making people brainless is a good thing. Thousand side effects from pharma drugs. Its a big mess. And pharmaceuticals solutions is not the freaking way...
 
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Psychiatry is all a big money scheme if you ask me.. I'm sure everyone has thought that before. Mental illnesses are just fancy labels they give you if you have certain symptoms. Symptoms are like dollar signs for doctors. The more you have, the more they make. In their eyes, everyone has a mental illness. Why is it that doctors never ask what may have caused your symptoms. They don't tell you that proper nutrition, staying away from drugs or alcohol, and regular exercise will keep your mind healthy and fix most of your problems. They just prescribe drugs that give you more symptoms to make more money and turn you into a lifelong customer. It's sick and a disgrace to humanity.

Granted, the meds that bring you out of psychosis or deal with chronic pain are important, but psychiatry has turned into a monstrous industry, competing for sales at the sakes of peoples lives.
 
invegauser said:
Enough!!

This thread is for Invega Sustenna. i am sure there are more appropriate threads for this conversation topic.

@paranoid android: really man?! your a moderator.
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You are probably right there i should have deleted the post which i will probably do now.

This applies to everyone in this thread. Anymore of this i hope such and such dies in a fire shit will be swiftly deleted and the person will be given a warning or infraction. Ye all got that now? Let's play nice and keep shit on topic.
 
^ You didn't violate any rules don't worry. Atleast none i would warn you over anyway. I meant that as a general warning to EVERYONE in this thread that such shit will no longer be tolerated.
 
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