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Coming off 1 year .5 insuffulated Herion addicted. Using subs (HELP PLEASE)

Actually I wish it was I'm on Klonopin..I CANT SLEEP EVEER. lesss then 3 hours the past 3 nights. I"m up again at 3am.. Day 6.... no suboxone... no NOTHING besesides vitamins minerals and exercise... This sleep thing is the worst symtom by far.


12-6-4-2-1-.75-.5-.5-0-.5-0-0.5-0-0-0-0-0-0 Day 6 of no suboxone.at liek 160+hrs. Without any subs and .5 within 8 days... I should def have Suboxone off my receptors at thsi point.. what you think? Still experiecning acute issues. Probably will for 2 weeks max?


Ps... I think I beat your sneeze record.. got like 18 in a row a little bit ago. Its weird tho. Only sneeze in mornings and have dysphoria and light headedness tingly fingers... strange!!!!!!

I wonder if its from the suber short use of sub? or the lingering withdrawal from the 1 year hard abuse of Herion? hmm O Also Can't believe how much money I spent. 50,000 in 1 year.. Spent my entire savings and almost all my checking account... just to "FEEL NORMAL" for about 5 months of it.
 
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ANother update.... another 10 hours has gone by...I think this has been the worst day of them all.. Hoping this is the GET OVER THE HUMP day... Its been 170 hrs.. 6 1/2 days... This fatigue from not sleeping is just fucking down right redic... I have no energy to even move...
 
I wont' take the Benzo tongiht. I been alterning Them each day.. didnt use for the 1st 2 days off Sub.. I don't think I would develop a depenedence that fast? I hear it takes 90 days to develop one... I coudl be SOOOO WRONG.. only dosing 1mg at MAX 1x per day Still havn't used any subs... at 4am it will be 7 days... Why is it getting worse? shit I only had .5 the past 10... Forcing myself to exercise and taking every vitamin "KNOWN" to work... oh well. I am not giving up.
 
I don't know how long it takes to get hooked but I'm sure you had an idea with dope and when you are rolling you'll say one more day won't give me a habit and before you know it,it's been a month of daily dope use.We can't control a substance once we get infected with it and if we could see the habit coming we wouldn't get addicted to begin with.
 
all of a sudden This forum got negative. I'm done posting. I'll be good. Cyall later.
 
Hey Bro !! Glad to see you are hanging there !

I saw a few post back you asked if you would feel like you do for two weeks top. I sincerely doubt it'll take thst long before you feel improvement.

And I totally understand the insomnia, what a bitch !! I am not sure what else you could do beside working out. Are you jogging close to your bedtime ? I ask just in case because actually that would prevent you from sleeping.

Regarding the Benzo you are not at rusk for addiction at the moment. However it is a good advice to take precaution and stay on the look out for an habit forming. When you go through hell it is easy to indulge in anything that can relieve you.

That you take a day off between dosing shows you are careful and I m glad you are. Still you know we have been supportive from the beginning and Namnoc only wrote what he did because he cares. But its all right to be edgy with what you are going through and a misunderstanding is si easy on a message board.

Anyway, you should also be careful with the bounceback of benzos. Maybe I am just different or just mega anxious but if I take some for two or three days its is enough for me to feel more anxious than baseline for a day or two afterward.

I wish you well as always. I hope you will keep us updated. After all uf we revisite this thread regularly it is because we genuinly care.
 
Hey I'm really proud of your progress and I follow your thread with much optimism,If I offended you I'm sorry and that wasn't my intentions. If it makes you more comfortable I will no longer post on your thread but please keep everyone else updated on your progress and it's very therapeutic for you as well. Again I meant no disrespect and am a little shocked you took it as such. I wish you nothing but goodluck and remember you got this!
 
Update Day 7 off Subs. and .5mg in the last 10 days. Slept 8 hours last night. Woke up and feel about 70% Better. Didn't take a Benzo. Took some natural sleep aid. Tylenol PM..Which I know can amplify Restless legs but I was desperate for sleep. 1st night of sleep since I quit. I know it won't be like this every night, but I'm taking advantage of the energy this morning/day. Symtoms this morning are Still achy feeling/fatigue/SNEEZING LIKE CRAZY like 10-15 times in a row. ALWAYS Happens int he morning. THe chills, HOT n cold back n forth usually starts after noon. None of that yet. I see the light. JUst kind of offended em that You think was dependent or going to become on the benzo. I only used because I have gotten like 3 hrs of sleep in 5 days lol. Also, must of been the depressing kicking in based on my reaction. Also... I woke up today after a full 7 hours of sleep, and I felt HIGH... like temples feel after a good sleep where you are dreaming all night. I don't know if you guys know what im talking about but thats how I feel, and still do.. Fuzzy in my temples.. almost like my brain healed overnight and its like firing and stimulated. I'm still going to fucking grind. I'm beating this like I said from the start. Hope everyone has a great weekend. I will update at least 2x a day like usual.

Taper Reminder:

Taper was 12-6-4-2-1-.75-.5-.5-0-.5-0-0.5-0-0-0-0-0-0-.(TODAY0) So.. I dosed suboxone 10 times.. It's been 21` days since my last H use..... Its funny that I don't have any cravings for it at all, not even to help me sleep. I know this will change throughout time with PAWS. I just wanted to sleep. I need to remind myself of this process everyday so if the opportunity strikes again. I will be like UHHH HELL TO THE NOOOOO LOL!
 
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Another 6 hours have gone by... Still have minor runs... stomach BLOAT. Umm... Fatigue is the worst symtom right now.. Especially after 7 hours of sleep... Feels like I still got 3 lol.
 
Well remember you had one decent night sleep out of a dozen so even if fatigue was no longer a symptom of withdrawal it would still be a symptom of sleep deprivation.

It is not of my business but I wish you would have told Namnoc his inputs are still welcome in your thread.

In any case keep on the great work and congrats once again.
 
Thats true, Sleeping was my first moment of "Progress" Namnoc you are still welcome in this thread of course. Sorry I took it so hard. I'm a little suprised its been 7 days and I still feel this bad.. but I have read threads.. most say after day 10.. You will see the light... so 3 more days?! hmm.
 
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all of a sudden This forum got negative. I'm done posting. I'll be good. Cyall later.
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Day 19-post more about poop
Day 19-get butt hurt
Day 19-decide not to post anymore
Day 19-post more about poop twice
That was a terrible taper off blue light
 
So you feel the need to add to that. Thanks. Very beneficial post. I said I was wrong, and I"m sorry. Do you know I"m trying to help others from this? I'm trying to be as real as I can and give symtoms, feelings etc. That's okay tho. You have your reasons. God bless
 
Update Day 8 off Subs. Slep okay last night again, woke up with that foggy "high" pressure feeling in my temples again. Stomach still feels the same as yesterday, symtoms seem to be the same as yesterday thus far. But I"ve only been up about an hour so its hard to tell. I will update later.

12-6-4-2-1-.75-.5-.5-0-.5-0-0.5-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0. 8 (days no sub)

2 days no Benzos. Used Advil Pm past 2 nights instead of the Clorazepam.
 
I appreciate your update as always. At least you get sone sleep. It is a clear sign of progress. I have no experience in fast taper so I am no expert on the usual timeline. But I agree this seems to be dragging on more than usual. Well everbody is different and mileage will vary from one to another that is a fact. I am starting to wonder since it took you a while to test negative for H if somehow you metabolize more slowly or something else that would make you progress slower than the average Joe.

In any case you are progressing and that is the only thing that matters. That means from now on it will only gets easier as days go by.

@anniegram I am not sure what your point was and I don't want to come off as the thread police or whatever but the fact is I, and probably am not the only one, invested time in getting involved in this thread to support the OP all along one of the toughest patch of his life. Out of empathy and with the goal of keeping him motivated and feeling he is not alone in this. If you did not find this thread useful no one forces you to read it. But next time please consider the impact of your comments before posting. OP needs support, not to be criticized for trivialities.
 
Another 6 hours have gone by.. Not feeling too hot haha. I just realized.. Yellow boogers.. Hope im not gettting a cold! lol Thank you Bropiace! I appreciate that comment. It's only going to get better. Do you/ or anyone know of a good site or store to get a piss test for suboxone? I wnat to see how long it stays in my urine.. Just soo I can track it... IT took me double the amount of time to metobolize H... so You've got me wondering now. Probably the reason why I'm not progressing as fast.
 
Things will improve for sure albeit slowly. Now that I'm 40 and using opiates , mostly iv H for 8 yrs . It usually takes me about 5 weeks b4 i can work without bithin like a pussy about my legs. Thats the only symptom that lasts that long and irregular sleep i guess but i will get easier maybe not every day but defo every week. Good luck bro
 
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