rolls said:Maybe you are one of the unlucky ones that can't process codeine into morphine and hence its ineffective with you. Should be using the finest filter you can so nothing but the liquid gets through.
You mention you had 60mg of crushed up tabs, I'm assuming these are 10/500 tabs which means you had 3g of paracetamol, you really don't want to be doing this especially with alcohol, shocking bad for your liver.
blau1005 said:Nah, like I said the dihydrocodeine had me going hard. I assume it's processed the same ie into morphine.
The tabs I'm using are 12.8mg codeine and 200mg ibuprofen, so that makes 1000mg ibuprofen. Lots of ibuprofen, I know, but there are 800mg IR ibuprofen tabs that are sometimes prescribed, so I figured 1g wouldn't be too bad.
The_Idler said:also
1. i find it extremely hard to believe that 100ml of 21degC H2O will dissolve 143g of Codeine.
doubt the accuracy of these data.
also, inverse proportional solubility to solvent temp? ehhhhm..... very rare, especially unlikely in the case of codeine.
Why would codeine and water, with solvent-solute bonds (ion-pd/pd-pd/H-bonds), have HIGHER entropy, than codeine and water, as molecules?
2. THERE IS NO POINT IN USING HOT WATER AND COOLING.
this is not fractional recrystallization!
simply use the cold solvent initially!
The_Idler said:also
1. i find it extremely hard to believe that 100ml of 21degC H2O will dissolve 143g of Codeine.
doubt the accuracy of these data.
also, inverse proportional solubility to solvent temp? ehhhhm..... very rare, especially unlikely in the case of codeine.
Why would codeine and water, with solvent-solute bonds (ion-pd/pd-pd/H-bonds), have HIGHER entropy, than codeine and water, as molecules?
2. THERE IS NO POINT IN USING HOT WATER AND COOLING.
this is not fractional recrystallization!
simply use the cold solvent initially!
Nope the dihydrocodeine itself causes the high, and a very small percentage is converted to hydromorphone although an article I read on here suggests that its so small it doesn't cause the the high. So an enzyme deficiency would not stop dihydrocodeine from getting you high.
1. i find it extremely hard to believe that 100ml of 21degC H2O will dissolve 143g of Codeine.
doubt the accuracy of these data.
also, inverse proportional solubility to solvent temp? ehhhhm..... very rare, especially unlikely in the case of codeine.
Why would codeine and water, with solvent-solute bonds (ion-pd/pd-pd/H-bonds), have HIGHER entropy, than codeine and water, as molecules?
2. THERE IS NO POINT IN USING HOT WATER AND COOLING.
this is not fractional recrystallization!
simply use the cold solvent initially!
All questions I asked as well but I doubt anyone here is qualified to answer them, maybe ask in advanced discussion, post a link here if you do.
Bugger. Gonna try the extraction method on a few friends soon just to make sure.Mr Blonde said:Looks like you're unlucky, blau.![]()
May not be much to gain chemically, but warm water does dissolve it faster.The_Idler said:2. THERE IS NO POINT IN USING HOT WATER AND COOLING.
this is not fractional recrystallization!
simply use the cold solvent initially!
blau1005 said:May not be much to gain chemically, but warm water does dissolve it faster.![]()
tadfish said:I mean wikipedia says per 100mg you get 500mg of APAP.
So i freeze frist sperate top layer off through filtration then freeze again and then defrost a there only a little apap floating around or that not still stuck on bottom insoluble in water. i then drink cold with penergan works great and i recon i get less APAP than having panadol.
any comments on my method welcome please