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Codeine & CWE Megathread: Version II - [insert witty title]

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Well morphine is a substrate of CYP2D6, so is codeine, tramadol, hydrocodone, meperidine,fentanyl, etc. I can only assume (based on my little knowledge on the matter) that yeah heroin (and it's major metabolites) would be a substrate of CYP2D6.

Inhibitors include:
Clorpheniramine (can get dexclorpheniramine as polaramine brand antihistamine, i believe.)
Cimetidine
Ranitidine (zantac)
Quinidine, maybe quinine (tonic water anyone?)
Fluoxetine

Also I believe codeine is also an inhibitor of CYP2D6, so it could be worthwhile to take the smack 20mins prior to the codeine?

Be safe though, guys.

http://www.ildcare.eu/Downloads/artseninfo/CYP450_drug_interactions.pdf
 
Im surprised you guys are suggesting PST. you really think that would do more for a heroin user than, say, a CWE of 600mg taken twice throughout the day? I dont disagree that PST has its place but I dont think it beats codeine.

I would probably combine codeine with PST personally. I probably do that once a week and its pretty fun.
 
^ I definitely think that pst is stronger than codeine. It's much longer lasting too. I don't feel anything from any amount of codeine anymore but I can still get high from relatively small amounts of seeds.
 
footscrazy said:
^ I definitely think that pst is stronger than codeine. It's much longer lasting too. I don't feel anything from any amount of codeine anymore but I can still get high from relatively small amounts of seeds.
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i agree PST is quite a bit more enjoyable than my usal dose of 600mg or so of codeine and lasts aloot longer too.I would pefer 600-900mg over a 800gram PST tho cos of that god damn taste! tastes like a cwe with straw and cos of the amount of liquid you have to drink.would much rather gulp down a few mouthfuls of cwe than sip on a ltr or so of nasty nasty shit for 4 hours or so. reducing down is a possibility but reducing it down to putty takes a good 12 hours....
 
Im not sure I agree that its more enjoyable than codeine, but yeah it certainly is enjoyable and worth doing. Lately Ive been shaking up a kilo of seeds... 5mins with just warm to hot water, then I add some GFJ and shake for another 5 mins. Boring as fuck but with a podcast on its not so bad. Drinking the thing down at once can be a bit of a mission but its manageable. I used to do a second wash on the seeds but way too fucking lazy to do that these days. One wash is enough.

And yeah it last a long time for sure. Its enjoyable enough on its own but a xanax chaser about an hour in is where its at. 1mg is enough ;) If no alpraz on had than a 600mg codeine chaser is obviously pretty good.

Fuck I hate the next morning dehydration though... I like having some of those hydralite sachets on hand. They instant make you feel matter, but if I dont have any a powerade/gatorade is usually good enough.
 
My method for PST was the following:

500-700 grams of Poppy seeds
Orange Juice (although I would refine this to Grapefruit juice/apple juice mix, maybe that Ocean Spray Ruby Red 30% grapefruit 70% apple juice)

Fill coke bottle with poppy seeds using funnel
Fill coke bottle with about a litre of juice, or enough to make it nice and shakeable and more liquid than seeds

Shake for 5mins, let sit for 5mins, shake again for 5minutes - Loosen the cap until you can squeeze the bottle of its contents (minus seeds!)

I never had any problems downing this, and at the height of my opiate issues It was 400mg codeine and 700grams of seeds, although ages ago I did a gram of codeine and 4 kilos of seeds...

I found PST used to get me high, it also used to prevent me from needing to go to more than a chemist and a supermarket.

I still found codeine more recreational though, compared to Pst.
 
I really haven't done PST in a while now. Probably a year or so. Is it even worth it still with the "normal" brand found in your everyday Aussie supermarket? They look grey as shit, and I remember a few years back when they looked like that, they simply didn't work :/
 
I can't mention brands of anything to contain any opiates. I did source some seeds about a year ago from a spice shop & they were bloody expensive and imported from singapore funnily enough... they worked a treat.

But yes, ye olde regular supermarket brands will do just fine.

I compare 700g seeds to maybe 300mg codeine or so. Obviously not just in codeine content as they would have traces of thebaine, morphine, codeine and other minor alkaloids.

Note: note: - Take my advice with a grain of salt, please understand the alkaloids widely vary, I would not suggest starting off with 700 grams of seeds if you have no opiate tolerance.
 
I'm guilty of bringing up pst here too but please lets stay away from availability, even just vague mentions of it. As others have brought up, it's probably in our best interests to keep sources quiet (not to mention that this is the codeine thread, which I need to keep in mind too!).
 
loperminde? a good potentiater? im out of dxm witch i normally use to make my codeine that much better.Would 2-4mg of loperminde make codeine any stronger,i know its not ment to cross the BBB but i've read a few places that it helps make codeine a fair bit stronger.but yeah is it worth being plugged up for a day or 2?
 
I would avoid loperamide unless you have enough spare codeine to go around and aren't worried about trying it.

Go with Dexchlorpheniramine (Polaramine) as it seems to be an inhibitor as well.

Although I've always sworn by promethazine (phenergan)

These are both OTC antihistamines.
 
Stato said:
I would avoid loperamide unless you have enough spare codeine to go around and aren't worried about trying it.

Go with Dexchlorpheniramine (Polaramine) as it seems to be an inhibitor as well.

Although I've always sworn by promethazine (phenergan)

These are both OTC antihistamines.
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i only have loperminde and 1 box of panadine and no license atm so cant drive down to the chemist.i think i'll just stick to the plain codeine cant be fucked being plugged up for another 2 days.thanks for the advise
 
No probs. Try the loperamide after you're already high I guess, IF you want to or feel the need. Please note it CAN and DOES cause CNS depression.

PS: I like the Sennokot/Senna based laxatives :) they seem to work 2 days later though! haha
 
Stato said:
No probs. Try the loperamide after you're already high I guess, IF you want to or feel the need. Please note it CAN and DOES cause CNS depression.

PS: I like the Sennokot/Senna based laxatives :) they seem to work 2 days later though! haha
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i'll just stick to the codeine i havnt done codes in ages so my tolly has droped and i feel surprisingly high off this ammount of codes :D
 
Stato said:
Although I've always sworn by promethazine (phenergan).
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Do you take the phenergan before or after you've drunk your codeine?

I've always believed it must be taken after as it inhibits the conversion to morphine, however every now and again I've seen people say they take it beforehand and still get good effects.
 
junkie skumbag said:
cos i find the taste so fucking bad that if i try to gulp down big mouthfuls of that stuff it makes me gag,so i have to sip on it slowly to avoid gagging it back up :)
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But youre wasting any potential morphine thats in the seeds this way... say theres 70mg morphine in your PST... you really want to consume this all at once. Spreading it out over 4hrs you would surely not feel anything. :)
 
pinkanga said:
But youre wasting any potential morphine thats in the seeds this way... say theres 70mg morphine in your PST... you really want to consume this all at once. Spreading it out over 4hrs you would surely not feel anything. :)
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well i havnt not felt anything off PST yet its always had me feeling good.half way through my pst i start to feel effects :)
 
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