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Codeine & CWE Megathread: Version II - [insert witty title]
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88brenno
Greenlighter
Has anyone experimented with Loperamide to potentiate codeine?
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
thats too much alcohol/xanax to use with codeine , it would over power the effects . depending on ur tolerance and stuff , i have to use about 3-4 cans of burborn before and 2-3 after if i want the alcohol to play a decent role , xanax i could probably take 0.25 to potentiate my codeine .
i tried oxys for the first time today , got my hands on 5 , 5mg oxycodone endones , dosed 4 and stupidly enough curiosity got the better of me and i tried smoking it even though its 95% crap in the pill , i feel really nice atm .
i tried oxys for the first time today , got my hands on 5 , 5mg oxycodone endones , dosed 4 and stupidly enough curiosity got the better of me and i tried smoking it even though its 95% crap in the pill , i feel really nice atm .
west.heidelberg
Bluelighter
G'day guys..I'm venturing up to Sydney for 2 days, taking a flight so I won't be able to take any smack with me. I figured I'd just take codeine in a shit attempt to ward off W/D's as I can't really thing of other options. Are all pills in the ilk of Panadeine and Nurofen + safe for a CWE??
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
ive actually taken weed on a flight from sydney-brisbane (tweed heads , near surfers paradise) i just wrapped it up and sprayed the cunt with deoderant heaps lol , never saw cops or nothing . depending how long ur flight is take it to the bathroom before u go thru customs .
i use panefen plus , theyre my favourite for CWE's , but read around the thread a bit , theres heaps of options .
i found some loperamide last night , so i did a bit of reading up on it and ive seen a few reports of it being a 'wonder drug' for withdrawals , just read a report about an oxy addict who was tapering , ran out and used 26mg loperamide , not only did he feel his withdrawals completely diminish , but also mild opiate effects .
all opiates do this but yeah codeines pretty bad for that , usually i just dont need to shit for like ... way longer than usual ? rectal bleeding is not good ... go to the doctor lol .
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
can someone answer this lol , ive just started looking into it , i plan on using DXM (40mg) , loperamide (20-30mg) , doxylamine (25mg) , xanax (0.5mg) , codeine (600mg) and weed togeather , because they all either potentially or do potentiate codeine . i kno its sort of an unnecessary amount of potentiators , but i just love taking lots of different drugs , especially if they have something to do with eachother lol , i might be able to get my hands on some oxys too , so ill probably try dosing 10-20mg of oxy with it after an hour of so , but im guessing i wont be needing any more drugs ontop of that ...
Sustanon
Bluelighter
That combo is magnificent LOL Used all of the above minus the loperamide. They synergize so well with eachother. Be careful not to smoke/vape too much buds as they may over ride the effects of the other substances. My favorite combo used to be: Edible weed -2:00 then at +0:00 Id have 0.5mg xanax, vape 0.2g of quality buds and/or hash mixed, CWE, 20mg DXM +0:30 skullcap/daminana/valerian tea. That combo was so euphoric took me 2 hours to realize what was going on hahaha.
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
haha nice to see another polydrug enthusiast interested in having the most fun with his DOC 
thanks for the confirmation there , i took the 25mg doxylamine , both 2mg loperamides and 1mg of xanax , cant wait to get paid so i can buy more restavit/loperamide/codeine/dxm and weed haha .
my favourite way so far has been : -00:45 (30-60mg) DXM , -00:30 small amounts of alcohol (preferably 2-3 cans of burborn , 10% woodstocks are perfect) , -00:00 400-600mg codeine (my tolerance has just gone up from exactly 1 packet (400mg) to 1 and half for a good nod (600mg) , then another can or two of alcohol about 20 minutes after , and once all of the effects are peaking , smoke 1-5 cones depending on the weed/how fucked up i already am .
im so keen for this fucking next one tho lol , 45 mins before loperamide (25mg) DXM (30-60mg) doxylamine (25-50mg) 30 mins before , i was suggested to use mylanta as well by Mr Blonde but idk about interactions with all these other drugs , ill probs try it anyway , then some more mylanta as i dose the CWE and a nice choof afterwards
thanks for the confirmation there , i took the 25mg doxylamine , both 2mg loperamides and 1mg of xanax , cant wait to get paid so i can buy more restavit/loperamide/codeine/dxm and weed haha . my favourite way so far has been : -00:45 (30-60mg) DXM , -00:30 small amounts of alcohol (preferably 2-3 cans of burborn , 10% woodstocks are perfect) , -00:00 400-600mg codeine (my tolerance has just gone up from exactly 1 packet (400mg) to 1 and half for a good nod (600mg) , then another can or two of alcohol about 20 minutes after , and once all of the effects are peaking , smoke 1-5 cones depending on the weed/how fucked up i already am .
im so keen for this fucking next one tho lol , 45 mins before loperamide (25mg) DXM (30-60mg) doxylamine (25-50mg) 30 mins before , i was suggested to use mylanta as well by Mr Blonde but idk about interactions with all these other drugs , ill probs try it anyway , then some more mylanta as i dose the CWE and a nice choof afterwards
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
That's what I've done when I've had to go away for a few days, taken codeine pills with me to do a cwe on. If you're travelling in Australia the good thing is you can get them from anywhere if you need more too. Nurofen plus and panadeine are fine to do a cwe on although many people prefer different brands for either their price or how easy the cwe is...I like to use panafen plus both for price and how quickly they dissolve.
Let us know how you go with the loperamide PeacePipeChief...I was looking into that one time but I never ended up trying it, I can't remember why, I think I decided the loperamide was too pricey for its potential benefit.
I use mylanta occasionally with my cdub, never found it's made too much difference though. I've found the meds like nexium much more effective at potentiating in this case (which also reduces acidity in the stomach but in a different way).
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if you have a heroin habit, i reckon you'd need a pretty absurd dose of codeine to feel anything.
i think loperamide would be a better option for easing/preventing WD symptoms. i've never had to try it, but have read good reports from others.
other than that, i wonder if you'd have the means to make PST? i really doubt codeine will be of much use to a heroin addict.
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
^ I was thinking pst too, given you're only going for two days, you could probably make one just before you leave and manage until you return...
PeacePipeChief
Bluelighter
i ended out doing 1.5mg xanax , 4mg loperamide and 25mg doxylamine , its was pretty good till i decided to call my mum to sort an issue out (which arised yesterday) ... that didnt turn out well ... so i went for a walk and stole some alcohol (i bottled a mate on 5mg xanax and about 30 standard drinks of just JD and wild turkey) and drunk that too , all in all it was actually a really nice combo lol except for the small emotional breakdown .
the loperamide i basically didnt notice what so ever , 4mg isnt enough tho , is it only in pharmacies in australia ? (brisbane/NSW border) cause im hoping its in shops , then i have an endless free supply
the doxylamine probably did more than the loperamide , cause the only remotely opiate feeling i had was some sedation . and the xanax made me forget probably most of it (i fell asleep at like 4 or something its now 12 , i was high from like 9 am and i can remember about 20 minutes split up throughout the day)
the loperamide i basically didnt notice what so ever , 4mg isnt enough tho , is it only in pharmacies in australia ? (brisbane/NSW border) cause im hoping its in shops , then i have an endless free supply
the doxylamine probably did more than the loperamide , cause the only remotely opiate feeling i had was some sedation . and the xanax made me forget probably most of it (i fell asleep at like 4 or something its now 12 , i was high from like 9 am and i can remember about 20 minutes split up throughout the day)
drug_mentor
Bluelight Crew
^ Pretty uncool to go stealing shit man.
To the heroin addict looking to use codeine on a quick trip, man honestly like a few others have said pst is probably a better bet. Either that or maybe a huge oral dose of heroin could be a bit helpful, I know it has a shocking bioavailability when taken orally and as someone with a habit in Australia that would probably work out to be a VERY expensive dose, but surely its duration would be a lot longer than other ROA's? I am not positive, but one would think so. Codeine might take the edge off, especially if you can get a script for some benzodiazepines too, but I really think that would work out to a pretty bad time for you.
As spacejunk mentioned you could try loperamide, it definately does work well for some people. I think its pretyt hit and miss however, so you might want to test run how it helps WD before you go before you jump on a plane with nothing but Imodium to help...
To the heroin addict looking to use codeine on a quick trip, man honestly like a few others have said pst is probably a better bet. Either that or maybe a huge oral dose of heroin could be a bit helpful, I know it has a shocking bioavailability when taken orally and as someone with a habit in Australia that would probably work out to be a VERY expensive dose, but surely its duration would be a lot longer than other ROA's? I am not positive, but one would think so. Codeine might take the edge off, especially if you can get a script for some benzodiazepines too, but I really think that would work out to a pretty bad time for you.
As spacejunk mentioned you could try loperamide, it definately does work well for some people. I think its pretyt hit and miss however, so you might want to test run how it helps WD before you go before you jump on a plane with nothing but Imodium to help...
I used to use heroin regularly and loved the cunt out of it, but even in the days of heavy use I still loved a box of codeine.
Ive searched through the net and have come to terms i have anal fissures.
Its really fucked not having the confidence to go into the toilet do deficate without sever pain and a fair bit of crying. I blame codeine as I never experienced this with other opiates.
Nothing worse than looking down and seeing blood red toilet water.
Ive searched through the net and have come to terms i have anal fissures.
Its really fucked not having the confidence to go into the toilet do deficate without sever pain and a fair bit of crying. I blame codeine as I never experienced this with other opiates.
Nothing worse than looking down and seeing blood red toilet water.
^ make sure you get plenty of fibre, as well as a lot of liquid. think about that pain/discomfort and eat/drink accordingly.
i've read that the fibre is counterproductive without the increased liquid intake, so just make sure you get plenty of both.
there are heaps of good - and tasty - sources of fibre, so you're spoilt for choice, really.
i like to chuck a few tablespoons of bran in with a bowl of cereal.
there are also options like stool softener and laxatives, but personally i think prevention is better than cure. doesn't matter how high you are, it's going to come back to bite you if you're using a lot...and using more won't numb the pain, it'll just make it worse.
just try to be aware and eat the right things - your digestive system will thank you...
i've read that the fibre is counterproductive without the increased liquid intake, so just make sure you get plenty of both.
there are heaps of good - and tasty - sources of fibre, so you're spoilt for choice, really.
i like to chuck a few tablespoons of bran in with a bowl of cereal.
there are also options like stool softener and laxatives, but personally i think prevention is better than cure. doesn't matter how high you are, it's going to come back to bite you if you're using a lot...and using more won't numb the pain, it'll just make it worse.
just try to be aware and eat the right things - your digestive system will thank you...
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Can anyone with knowledge on cross tolerance enlighten me? My usual dose of codeine is 384mg although lately I have been increasing it to 574mg so I can actually feel something as 384mg does virtually nothing for me these days. I would like to reduce my tolerance back down to my initial dose of 384mg. I have been adding 20mg super potent h to my codeine + 30mg DXM combo to virtually potentiate the codeine. Im just wondering if I stop adding the h to it after a while would my tolerance drop back down to from 574mg to 384mg so I can feel it again? By adding the H to it it actually potentiates the codeine effects very well. Im well aware that H is just a potent version of morphine and codeine converts to morphine but by eliminating the h from the combo would the CYP2D6 enzyme convert the codiene a bit more efficiently? Its kind of hard to describe my question but I mean by giving the enzyme a little break from all the conversion would it work bit better later on?
Sustanon
Bluelighter
By a different enzyme though? Surely not the same from Codeine > morphine? That wasn't my question though but good point.
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